In Reply to: Dr. Geddes speaks for himself: "I try and make accurate loudspeakers not 'great sounding ones'." posted by Todd W. White on May 3, 2005 at 10:26:05:
If a loudspeaker makes a bad performance sound good, is it a good sounding loudspeaker?If a loudspeaker reveals recording flaws that make the recording sound bad is it a bad sounding loudspeaker?
Loudspeakers should not "sound" they should be completely nuetral.
If someone says "sounds great" after hearing a CD on some loudspeakers are they refering to the speakers or the CD? For most mucisians it is the latter.
The entire area of subjective assesment of loudspeakers is so screwed up that I prefer to avoid it altogether unless the tests are well controlled. In every case where I have performed well controlled tests they usually disagree with prevailing opinions, golden ears, etc. In subjective assesment the mind rules all.
On assesing a loudspeaker I do this:
First look at the measured response (on and off axis), if there is no measured response avaialable then the process ends here since I won't consider a speaker where 1) the designer did not measure it or 2) he did measure it but isn't going to show it to me.
Next if the measurements look good (a minimum requirement IMHO) and the listening environment is one which is not such that it will invalidate any perceptions, I will put on several cuts that I know as well as the back of my hand. Never will I make any assesments of the sound of an unfamiliar recording. After a couple of hours of this I might arrive at a conclusion, and then again I may not. If I do, I will wait until I hear a couple of other opinions to see if I missed something - thats happened before. It usualy takes me several trials like this before I am comfortable with my subjective opinion.
At the show no one passed the first test (except us, of course - the only thing that we did show was the measurements).
Earl Geddes
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Follow Ups
- Re: Dr. Geddes speaks for himself: "I try and make accurate loudspeakers not 'great sounding ones'." - EGeddes 05/3/0511:05:32 05/3/05 (9)
- THD amp wars of the '70s sure proved measurments say it all... - eso 18:59:51 05/3/05 (8)
- Re: THD amp wars of the '70s sure proved measurments say it all... - EGeddes 19:04:46 05/3/05 (7)
- Re: THD amp wars of the '70s sure proved measurments say it all... - freddyi 07:27:45 05/4/05 (5)
- Is this a question? - EGeddes 07:37:51 05/4/05 (4)
- Re: Is this a question? - eso 07:47:44 05/4/05 (3)
- Re: Is this a question? - mafuta 10:04:41 05/4/05 (2)
- Re: Is this a question? - Clive Milne 17:43:06 05/4/05 (1)
- Re: Is this a question? - mafuta 19:14:51 05/4/05 (0)
- Typical... - eso 19:29:54 05/3/05 (0)