Guys/Gals, I am not, by any means, a master audiophile (stupid word anyway), but, I read Art Dudleys October, 2009 review of the ZU Essence speakers. His current speakers of choice are a pair of Audio Note AN-E/SPe HE's (what a mouth full). These may be absolutely wonderful speakers, I don't know. However, it is evidently required and necessary to CORNER LOAD these speakers to acquire their full musical potential!?
I don't get it. Corner Loading low bass frequencies I can understand and perform myself. But full range speakers reproducing the full range of instruments and voices? I get that some well designed and directional mid/high frequency compression based horns incorporated in speakers such as K-Horns are not terribly influenced by close corner wall proximity. But, I began to realize back in the early 1980's (a widely accepted revolution) that the further a full range speaker resided from the rear wall, and especially corners, the more naturaly life like it sounded. I have now done away with speaker boxes all together in lieu of open baffle speakers systems placed well away from rear walls and especially corners. This open baffle style combined with room boundry distances that allow natural sounding reflections to sound soooo natural and real, like a live performance. I have been to many, many live musical performances of all types, both professionally and as an audience member. Not once have I seen musicians grouped in a corner to enhance their performance via corner loading.
Mr. Art Dudley (Stereophile) often sings the praises of his AN speakers which are corner loaded. He often describes many attributes of these speakers performance that are enhanced by having them loaded into corners. In this same Stereophile issue Mr. Dudley does something really cool. He sponsors a home concert featuring, David Grier, for whom I am in awe of his musical talents. However, this musical genious performed this intimate concert from what appears to be the center of the room away from most room boundaries, especially CORNERS. I have never seen a single or a group of musicians all pilled one on top of the other in the corners of a performance venue to enhance their performances through artificial corner loading (accept at my local coffee house, poor guy)
So, is it fair to claim that a specific speaker is more meaty or robust (or just better sounding) when it is artificially and maybe unnaturally enhanced through corner loading when the competition speaker is positioned away from room bounary reinforcements offering a more natural reproduction?
I have apent almost thirty years (I am a slow learner) learning how to properly tune any perspective audio room for musically natural boundary absorption and reflection properties and that the correct speaker placement geometry almost ALWAYS involves placing speakers AWAY from room boundaries, especially corners.
Have I been wrong all these years? Should I simply purchase a pair of box speakers like the Audio Notes and shove them in corners to let the corners help make them what they otherwize are not?
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Topic - Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 13:11:15 09/23/09 (50)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - cids 12:32:17 09/30/09 (1)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 14:20:43 09/30/09 (0)
- I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - chopper87@aol.com 10:31:24 09/27/09 (10)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - Rune 02:34:54 09/28/09 (9)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - chopper87@aol.com 19:02:01 09/28/09 (7)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - Rune 03:21:13 09/30/09 (6)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - chopper87@aol.com 07:41:18 09/30/09 (5)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - Rune 02:29:28 10/1/09 (2)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - chopper87@aol.com 20:16:41 10/1/09 (1)
- Yes,you are right ;-) - Rune 01:36:21 10/2/09 (0)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - Gerry E. 10:54:02 09/30/09 (1)
- RE: I just don't get the Audio Note "FullRange Corner Loading Dependency" popularity???????? - chopper87@aol.com 14:36:26 09/30/09 (0)
- AN Es are designed to be placed in corners - Bill Fitzmaurice 11:17:51 09/28/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - BTW 17:15:47 09/25/09 (0)
- Been thinking about this lately - dwk 12:48:18 09/25/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading..... - Paul Eizik 21:19:27 09/23/09 (8)
- RE: Corner loading..... - chopper87@aol.com 14:17:59 09/24/09 (6)
- RE: Corner loading..... - Paul Eizik 19:25:10 09/24/09 (5)
- Well said, Paul... - Ivan303 07:24:40 09/30/09 (0)
- Cogent ? - I don't see them on the RMAF 2009 List............nt. - Cut-Throat 18:15:15 09/25/09 (1)
- RE: Cogent ? - Ping Steve Schell and Rich Drysdale! - Paul Eizik 20:40:48 09/25/09 (0)
- RE: "the Knights of the Soundstage" - 1973shovel 07:39:32 09/25/09 (1)
- RE: "the Knights of the Soundstage" - Paul Eizik 08:54:13 09/25/09 (0)
- Excellent post! (nt) - 1973shovel 05:34:37 09/24/09 (0)
- Here's Bill's coner cabs.. - Oface 19:05:59 09/23/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - Tom Brennan 13:35:03 09/23/09 (24)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - Vince S 07:48:02 09/25/09 (15)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 15:22:34 09/30/09 (1)
- Hi from the genious - Vince S 13:15:28 10/4/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - Paul Folbrecht 19:35:20 09/25/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - Paul Folbrecht 19:34:16 09/25/09 (6)
- I didn't think that these were corner loading full range speakers...............nt - Cut-Throat 17:47:53 09/26/09 (5)
- RE: I didn't think that these were corner loading full range speakers...............nt - Paul Folbrecht 17:51:47 09/26/09 (4)
- Too bad they are not "high efficiency" - Wrong forum for these speakers..........nt - Cut-Throat 16:00:58 09/28/09 (3)
- RE: Too bad they are not "high efficiency" - Wrong forum for these speakers..........nt - Paul Folbrecht 16:54:56 09/28/09 (2)
- It seems that these only measure 92.5 db............... - Cut-Throat 17:21:02 09/28/09 (1)
- RE: It seems that these only measure 92.5 db............... - Paul Folbrecht 17:27:53 09/28/09 (0)
- You must have very poor amplfication if you don't like Khorns................ - Cut-Throat 17:20:37 09/25/09 (4)
- RE: You must have very poor amplfication if you don't like Khorns................ - Tom Brennan 06:41:39 09/26/09 (1)
- RE: You must have very poor amplfication if you don't like Khorns................ - Cut-Throat 08:17:44 09/26/09 (0)
- Such a nice guy - Steyr 05:19:01 09/26/09 (0)
- RE: You must have very poor amplfication if you don't like Khorns................ - Vince S 21:54:19 09/25/09 (0)
- Thank You Tom for augmenting my preconceived predilections.............~ NT - Cleantimestream 09:31:07 09/24/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 17:18:56 09/23/09 (6)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - listen-don't-guess 13:22:28 09/27/09 (3)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 15:52:06 09/30/09 (2)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - listen-don't-guess 17:19:13 09/30/09 (1)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 19:44:06 10/2/09 (0)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - djgaloot 17:41:17 09/25/09 (1)
- RE: Corner loading full range speakers?????? - chopper87@aol.com 15:55:37 09/30/09 (0)