RE: CD has had over 25 years to prove itself, it has failed horribly and still sounds like the crap it is!

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Topic - How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 11:44:54 02/11/09 (197)

moderator Please Close this thread ENOUGH - jygesq 09:58:48 02/16/09 (29)

You've all gotten your 'licks' in, how 'bout a little 'self-moderation'? - Chris Garrett 13:11:43 02/17/09 (1)

Couldn't agree more - participation on the forum is voluntary, no-one's forced. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 13:08:32 02/18/09 (0)

Not my rantings, PRO-CD responses on why my idea of a SACD/DSD only player is a bad idea. - Teresa 17:10:20 02/16/09 (18)

Teresa doesn't have the slightest understanding of economics... - dcstep@swbell.net 14:08:59 02/18/09 (17)

There are lots of us who have zero CDs. And many who listen to ONLY multichannel SACDs. - Teresa 21:24:29 02/18/09 (16)

If the major manufacturers' research showed them a - Wendell Narrod 18:45:59 02/19/09 (0)

stretching the truth again? - TBone 11:19:36 02/19/09 (12)

Mr. Troll, no stretch a lot of people cannot stand to listen to your precious low resolution CD format. - Teresa 15:18:09 02/19/09 (9)

Teresa must have a fever... - dcstep@swbell.net 15:27:16 02/19/09 (8)

while I agree with you in substance, it is terribly rude.. - tunenut 17:34:33 02/19/09 (2)

"...it puts the lotion in the bucket, 'else it gets the hose again...." (nt) - jdaniel@jps.net 18:45:07 02/20/09 (0)

There's no disrespect to Teresa... - dcstep@swbell.net 18:04:47 02/19/09 (0)

notice ... - TBone 15:46:23 02/19/09 (2)

Mr. Pro-CD Troll there are hundreds just check for yourself. - Teresa 15:55:55 02/19/09 (1)

you're correct ... - TBone 16:07:33 02/19/09 (0)

Play nice, and I have no delusions. - Teresa 15:40:38 02/19/09 (1)

good idea ... - TBone 15:49:49 02/19/09 (0)

It must be horribly boring in Canada ... - racerguy 11:26:00 02/19/09 (1)

yeah ... - TBone 11:42:32 02/19/09 (0)

Teresa's plan is naive and delusional... - dcstep@swbell.net 05:51:09 02/19/09 (1)

...says the man who... - racerguy 06:56:53 02/19/09 (0)

just ignore it if it bothers you - tunenut 16:24:37 02/16/09 (4)

RE: just ignore it if it bothers you - Know_Talent 07:02:33 02/19/09 (2)

thanks for the rec, I have explored the Groove Note - tunenut 17:33:08 02/19/09 (1)

RE: thanks for the rec, I have explored the Groove Note - Know_Talent 07:50:21 02/20/09 (0)

We still recommend SACDs over at sa-cd.net - Teresa 17:05:00 02/16/09 (0)

You need to... - racerguy 14:55:59 02/16/09 (2)

Racerguy they are just getting bend out of shape because they don't like my idea of an SACD/DSD only player. - Teresa 17:14:49 02/16/09 (1)

No, that's not it - racerguy 18:39:50 02/16/09 (0)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - fmak 10:53:25 02/13/09 (0)

None. [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:53:47 02/12/09 (2)

Well if it's priced at $1,000 or less I would buy one for two reasons. - Teresa 22:12:01 02/12/09 (1)

so the answer is actually one (NT) - tunenut 09:25:42 02/13/09 (0)

I always wanted to design an SACD player that was only DSD all the way through and didn't play Redbook. - Teresa 15:23:00 02/11/09 (139)

68 responses to this post and not one of you have changed my mind, I would still like an all DSD SACD player. - Teresa 20:36:43 02/15/09 (0)

If you heard a high quality redbook/sacd player - jygesq 12:00:10 02/12/09 (130)

The Marantz Sa11 costs twice as much as my most expensive SACD player, the $1,699 Xindak SCD-1 - Teresa 17:39:59 02/12/09 (62)

Teresa, you should listen to more expensive players ... - jalyra 11:24:55 02/13/09 (61)

The problem I see with reviewing something I cannot afford to buy, is having to send it back. - Teresa 14:47:27 02/13/09 (59)

RE: The problem I see with reviewing something I cannot afford to buy, is having to send it back. - Know_Talent 07:55:35 02/14/09 (0)

you know you can buy it @50 % of list - jygesq 06:23:58 02/14/09 (55)

Yes that was taken into account (nt) - Teresa 15:10:48 02/14/09 (54)

Teresa says, "Give me high resolution or remain silent," - dcstep@swbell.net 19:32:27 02/14/09 (53)

I insist NO ONE live by my standards. BTW I sold my iPod as it would not hold 24/96 WAV music files? - Teresa 20:31:22 02/14/09 (52)

What a sad life you must live... - dcstep@swbell.net 07:13:21 02/15/09 (51)

You confuse close mindedness with comfortable enjoyable listening - Teresa 16:16:41 02/15/09 (50)

Teresa said, "For me 44.1kHz digital from any source including CDs is not music but mere sound, noise if you w - dcstep@swbell.net 16:52:12 02/15/09 (49)

I've heard CD players costing $5,000 and more! After 25 years of CD garbage I listen no more! - Teresa 17:22:01 02/15/09 (48)

Teresa says, "I damn CD to hell where it belongs" - dcstep@swbell.net 20:35:49 02/15/09 (47)

Well if you pine for CD after SACD/CD hybrids take over, you can always play the CD layer. - Teresa 00:05:56 02/16/09 (46)

Teresa can't tell the CD layer from the SACD layer.. - dcstep@swbell.net 07:34:24 02/16/09 (44)

I HATE the sound of CD from ANY CD player! Do you have trouble understanding the English language? - Teresa 16:14:24 02/16/09 (2)

Teresa says I called her names... - dcstep@swbell.net 18:52:29 02/16/09 (1)

Yet another insult "can't listen to good equipment" you are really full of them - Teresa 19:26:30 02/16/09 (0)

RE: Teresa can't tell the CD layer from the SACD layer.. - Hiro 09:57:04 02/16/09 (40)

Teresa's not willing to compare layers.... - dcstep@swbell.net 10:19:51 02/16/09 (39)

Why are you bald face lying? What do you hope to gain closet CD lover? (nt) - Teresa 16:18:21 02/16/09 (3)

RE: Why are you bald face lying? What do you hope to gain closet CD lover? (nt) - dcstep@swbell.net 18:54:35 02/16/09 (2)

CD lover outed once again (that closet) - Teresa 19:28:10 02/16/09 (1)

RE: CD lover outed once again (that closet) - dcstep@swbell.net 19:36:56 02/16/09 (0)

RE: Teresa's not willing to compare layers.... - Hiro 11:11:23 02/16/09 (34)

funny numbers - tunenut 12:30:52 02/16/09 (20)

"25% of working people could afford such a player if they really wanted it." No way in hell - Teresa 16:24:09 02/16/09 (19)

RE: "25% of working people could afford such a player if they really wanted it." No way in hell - Know_Talent 06:49:46 02/19/09 (4)

Still in most performance areas it beats my $1,699 tubed Xindak SCD-1 and - Teresa 14:45:21 02/19/09 (3)

RE: Still in most performance areas it beats my $1,699 tubed Xindak SCD-1 and - Know_Talent 08:15:26 02/20/09 (2)

I have heard Cary Audio and Mark Levinson in the super expensive CD player category. - Teresa 15:12:20 02/20/09 (1)

RE: I have heard Cary Audio and Mark Levinson in the super expensive CD player category. - Know_Talent 15:17:01 02/20/09 (0)

your numbers are wrong - tunenut 16:30:54 02/16/09 (13)

I need to move to your city then. The nationwide average is incorrect as it includes millionaires - Teresa 16:36:33 02/16/09 (12)

I don't need to check want ads I have wikipedia - tunenut 16:41:29 02/16/09 (11)

I'll telling you that includes millionaires and billionaires and thus is not accurate. (nt) - Teresa 17:16:50 02/16/09 (10)

it does include them and it is accurate - tunenut 17:29:07 02/16/09 (9)

Households might just be closer because two working adults should equal around $48,000 total - Teresa 18:46:09 02/16/09 (8)

RE: Households might just be closer because two working adults should equal around $48,000 total - Know_Talent 06:56:58 02/19/09 (7)

One is Union work and the other requires at least a Bachelor's Degree - Teresa 14:57:26 02/19/09 (6)

"In 2007 I made $1,700." - Wendell Narrod 13:23:02 02/20/09 (5)

RE: "In 2007 I made $1,700." - dcstep@swbell.net 13:48:29 02/20/09 (4)

I didn't have any choice these trolls were trying to make it sound like everyone in the USA is RICH and - Teresa 15:25:38 02/20/09 (3)

Your salary history is sad, but you're WAY below average... - dcstep@swbell.net 15:30:18 02/20/09 (2)

Actually it's on the upper medium side in Reno, Nevada. We are a right to work state you know (nt) - Teresa 16:18:45 02/20/09 (1)

Right to work state are where I chose to live... - dcstep@swbell.net 16:55:26 02/20/09 (0)

Despite being a reviewer, Teresa says... - dcstep@swbell.net 12:09:21 02/16/09 (7)

I investigated the potential for CD for 25 years and spent thousands, it was 2008 I gave it up as a lost cause! - Teresa 16:29:00 02/16/09 (0)

RE: Despite being a reviewer, Teresa says... - Hiro 14:45:12 02/16/09 (5)

Parrot time... - dcstep@swbell.net 15:05:30 02/16/09 (4)

Not so! I am working hard so all CDs will have an SACD layer - Teresa 16:33:01 02/16/09 (3)

Teresa said, "...all CDs should have SACD layers." - dcstep@swbell.net 14:42:58 02/17/09 (0)

RE: Not so! I am working hard so all CDs will have an SACD layer - Know_Talent 14:40:51 02/17/09 (0)

RE: Not so! I am working hard so all CDs will have an SACD layer - dcstep@swbell.net 18:57:31 02/16/09 (0)

RE: Teresa's not willing to compare layers.... - jazz1 11:36:39 02/16/09 (4)

RE: Teresa's not willing to compare layers.... - Hiro 12:05:45 02/16/09 (3)

Hiro, you answered that like your were Teresa... - dcstep@swbell.net 15:51:13 02/16/09 (2)

Not so his writing style is very different than mine but - Teresa 16:41:05 02/16/09 (1)

Teresa, you just answered a question for Hiro... - dcstep@swbell.net 18:59:23 02/16/09 (0)

RE: Well if you pine for CD after SACD/CD hybrids take over, you can always play the CD layer. - jazz1 01:46:15 02/16/09 (0)

"it makes me ill to even go near the CD section in the library." - Wendell Narrod 05:27:53 02/14/09 (1)

RE: "it makes me ill to even go near the CD section in the library." - Know_Talent 07:53:45 02/14/09 (0)

RE: Teresa, you should listen to more expensive players ... - Know_Talent 11:36:08 02/13/09 (0)

RE: If you heard a high quality redbook/sacd player - racerguy 13:40:44 02/12/09 (36)

Have you heard one? If not, best keep your peace. - madisonears 22:36:58 02/12/09 (1)

Such silliness! - racerguy 06:54:44 02/13/09 (0)

Must not be if he has trouble hearing the difference between low resolution CD and ultra-high resolution SACD. - Teresa 17:19:51 02/12/09 (33)

This is a strange comment coming from you M - jygesq 06:13:02 02/13/09 (11)

That just means you do not know anything, My system reproduces ultrasonics up to 45kHz - Teresa 06:23:49 02/13/09 (10)

RE: That just means you do not know anything, My system reproduces ultrasonics up to 45kHz - docmark 14:23:04 02/25/09 (0)

"Mine is DESIGNED for high resolution sources!" - Metralla 09:50:33 02/15/09 (1)

Amazing, isn't it. - powermatic 11:20:28 02/16/09 (0)

Defenition of Hi-Rez - ramsac 00:48:15 02/15/09 (4)

Who said anything about a singular factor? Ultrasonic HF extension is the first most important step. (nt) - Teresa 01:11:43 02/15/09 (3)

Teresa is a bat! - jazz1 11:40:02 02/16/09 (0)

Do you really think so? - Metralla 09:47:21 02/15/09 (1)

I don't think it's very important - tunenut 21:06:22 02/15/09 (0)

We have same tweeters My speakers are Infinity RSll - jygesq 12:19:46 02/13/09 (1)

ultrasonics are "felt" more than heard. here is some information for you. - Teresa 15:05:44 02/13/09 (0)

BS - madisonears 22:40:06 02/12/09 (20)

RE: BS - Tony Lauck 18:43:45 02/13/09 (18)

exactly, what arguement are you referencing? - TBone 11:57:37 02/15/09 (17)

I don't really have an argument, only what "I" am able to listen to as music to my ears. - Teresa 16:41:13 02/15/09 (14)

your comprehension skills need work ... - TBone 13:58:55 02/16/09 (9)

Well, I apologize for giving you a compliment then. - Teresa 16:50:26 02/16/09 (8)

Teresa, stop twisting the truth ... - TBone 20:22:54 02/16/09 (7)

You are the one twisting the truth, - Teresa 22:41:54 02/16/09 (6)

who you kiddin' ... - TBone 02:31:13 02/17/09 (5)

Think before you post, you are making a compete fool of yourself. - Teresa 03:50:08 02/17/09 (4)

thank you! - TBone 11:07:09 02/17/09 (3)

It's a warning to others about your poor behavior. My hope is you will be civil in the future. (nt) - Teresa 14:46:56 02/17/09 (2)

RE: It's a warning to others about your poor behavior. My hope is you will be civil in the future. - Teresa 14:57:09 02/17/09 (1)

Teresa ... - TBone 15:22:40 02/17/09 (0)

"just do not push your beliefs on others." - Wendell Narrod 20:06:05 02/15/09 (3)

I enjoy lots of dead formats. It never bothers me when people say they hate LPs or analog tape. - Teresa 20:22:02 02/15/09 (2)

LOON ALERT!!! - Know_Talent 07:05:36 02/17/09 (0)

Oh, Teresa. You are priceless. - Wendell Narrod 20:33:35 02/15/09 (0)

RE: exactly, what arguement are you referencing? - Tony Lauck 13:00:01 02/15/09 (1)

howling at the moon ... - TBone 13:43:47 02/16/09 (0)

RE: BS - jazz1 01:43:21 02/13/09 (0)

RE: If you heard a high quality redbook/sacd player - calloway 13:26:19 02/12/09 (29)

RE: If you heard a high quality redbook/sacd player - fmak 10:55:05 02/13/09 (2)

The most pithy post on AA I have seen. nt - Tony Lauck 18:48:37 02/13/09 (0)

Bravo! Well said. (;-) nt - Teresa 15:32:16 02/13/09 (0)

CD has had over 25 years to prove itself, it has failed horribly and still sounds like the crap it is! - Teresa 17:26:06 02/12/09 (25)

I Actually Find Teresa Entertaining... - Gerry E. 06:36:04 02/13/09 (8)

I'm glad you find me entertaining but - Teresa 06:45:03 02/13/09 (7)

"The idea is just too bizarre!" - Wendell Narrod 09:55:50 02/14/09 (0)

What planet are YOU from!! - MT 11:19:27 02/13/09 (5)

I cannot enjoy the so-called "sound" emitted from CDs, how are you able to after being exposed to SACD? - Teresa 15:14:15 02/13/09 (3)

RE: I cannot enjoy the so-called "sound" emitted from CDs, how are you able to after being exposed to SACD? - jazz1 11:42:12 02/16/09 (0)

Because I listen to music (first and formost) and not format! - MT 11:19:29 02/14/09 (1)

RE: Because I listen to music (first and formost) and not format! - jbufka2 19:15:18 02/15/09 (0)

RE: What planet are YOU from!! - calloway 11:24:16 02/13/09 (0)

RE: CD has had over 25 years to prove itself, it has failed horribly and still sounds like the crap it is! - Know_Talent 06:07:02 02/13/09 (1)

What does you insulting comment have to do with SACD or even low resolution CD? - Teresa 06:32:03 02/13/09 (0)

RE: CD has had over 25 years to prove itself, it has failed horribly and still sounds like the crap it is! - calloway 02/12/0918:21:38 02/12/09 (13)

So why does everything else sound fantastic? SACDs, DVD-Audios, LPs, Reel to Reel tapes and 24/96 downloads? - Teresa 19:02:07 02/12/09 (12)

on what do you base your opinion your system is not - jygesq 06:20:41 02/13/09 (2)

RE: on what do you base your opinion your system is not - Tony Lauck 14:56:30 02/13/09 (0)

My system is of high enough resolution to show the well designed and good sounding formats in all their glory. - Teresa 06:39:09 02/13/09 (0)

RE: So why does everything else sound fantastic? SACDs, DVD-Audios, LPs, Reel to Reel tapes and 24/96 downloads? - calloway 04:48:45 02/13/09 (8)

So what do you want me to do? Apologize for loving SACDs and hating CDs. - Teresa 06:49:49 02/13/09 (7)

RE: So what do you want me to do? Apologize for loving SACDs and hating CDs. - MT 11:40:38 02/13/09 (6)

"....today for some reason, I find them amusing.".... - Chuck Y 12:58:28 02/13/09 (5)

RE: "....today for some reason, I find them amusing.".... - Know_Talent 13:07:55 02/13/09 (4)

Maybe - powermatic 11:39:19 02/16/09 (3)

Completely untrue on all points! - Teresa 17:49:50 02/16/09 (2)

RE:"Completely untrue on all points!" - powermatic 14:39:54 02/17/09 (1)

You can still get the old posts put in the topic and my name "Teresa" and search - Teresa 15:07:18 02/17/09 (0)

"They have no desire to hear Redbook again." What if they care about certain music or performances? (nt). - jdaniel@jps.net 16:36:15 02/11/09 (2)

Do you mean the ones they cannot find in any other format besides CD? - Teresa 17:32:55 02/11/09 (1)

People that don't love music limit themselves to SACD... - dcstep@swbell.net 19:38:13 02/13/09 (0)

RE: I always wanted to design an SACD player that was only DSD all the way through and didn't play Redbook. - Know_Talent 15:54:54 02/11/09 (3)

No you could not, there are not many things in life I hate worse than the sound of redbook CD (nt) - Teresa 17:41:57 02/12/09 (2)

If CD is one of your biggest life complaints you have led - Wendell Narrod 14:25:53 02/14/09 (0)

RE: No you could not, there are not many things in life I hate worse than the sound of redbook CD (nt) - Know_Talent 11:32:18 02/13/09 (0)

3 (n.t.) - Spiritualized 14:55:23 02/11/09 (0)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Hiro 11:50:09 02/11/09 (21)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 12:04:02 02/11/09 (16)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Hiro 12:13:22 02/11/09 (15)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 12:25:00 02/11/09 (14)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Hiro 09:45:57 02/12/09 (6)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 09:59:59 02/12/09 (5)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - calloway 10:44:57 02/12/09 (3)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 10:52:31 02/12/09 (2)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - calloway 11:10:26 02/12/09 (1)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 11:14:10 02/12/09 (0)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Hiro 10:13:40 02/12/09 (0)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - WilHenry 06:18:27 02/12/09 (2)

"will overtake SACD before it becomes mainstream" - Wendell Narrod 09:18:50 02/12/09 (1)

It's looking that way isn't it. nt - WilHenry 10:56:47 02/12/09 (0)

Edison cylinders never reached their full potential either, should we revert back to them:? - Teresa 15:17:17 02/11/09 (3)

RE: Edison cylinders never reached their full potential either, should we revert back to them:? - Know_Talent 15:36:20 02/11/09 (2)

RE: Edison cylinders never reached their full potential either, should we revert back to them:? - Tony Lauck 18:20:38 02/11/09 (1)

RE: Edison cylinders never reached their full potential either, should we revert back to them:? - Know_Talent 08:43:44 02/12/09 (0)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Hiro 11:55:42 02/11/09 (3)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 12:09:32 02/11/09 (2)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Hiro 12:22:29 02/11/09 (1)

RE: How many SACD players would exist if they didn't play redbook? - Know_Talent 12:29:14 02/11/09 (0)

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RE: CD has had over 25 years to prove itself, it has failed horribly and still sounds like the crap it is! - calloway 02/12/0918:21:38 02/12/09 (13)

So why does everything else sound fantastic? SACDs, DVD-Audios, LPs, Reel to Reel tapes and 24/96 downloads? - Teresa 19:02:07 02/12/09 (12)

on what do you base your opinion your system is not - jygesq 06:20:41 02/13/09 (2)

RE: on what do you base your opinion your system is not - Tony Lauck 14:56:30 02/13/09 (0)

My system is of high enough resolution to show the well designed and good sounding formats in all their glory. - Teresa 06:39:09 02/13/09 (0)

RE: So why does everything else sound fantastic? SACDs, DVD-Audios, LPs, Reel to Reel tapes and 24/96 downloads? - calloway 04:48:45 02/13/09 (8)

So what do you want me to do? Apologize for loving SACDs and hating CDs. - Teresa 06:49:49 02/13/09 (7)

RE: So what do you want me to do? Apologize for loving SACDs and hating CDs. - MT 11:40:38 02/13/09 (6)

"....today for some reason, I find them amusing.".... - Chuck Y 12:58:28 02/13/09 (5)

RE: "....today for some reason, I find them amusing.".... - Know_Talent 13:07:55 02/13/09 (4)

Maybe - powermatic 11:39:19 02/16/09 (3)

Completely untrue on all points! - Teresa 17:49:50 02/16/09 (2)

RE:"Completely untrue on all points!" - powermatic 14:39:54 02/17/09 (1)

You can still get the old posts put in the topic and my name "Teresa" and search - Teresa 15:07:18 02/17/09 (0)

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