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In Reply to: So I take it then ... posted by Stephen on December 29, 2003 at 15:37:17:
I'm shure believe these reviews are not innaccurate.I'm under the impression that the reviewers acted in good faith believing the sacd was sourced and dsd'd from the analog source.
I really like these unbiased reviews.Now, it turns out that the source is 20 bit48kHz pcm.
And nobody complained about 'certain' pcm signatures ...And I didn't comment on the sonics.
Although the sbm redbook gives an incredible insight in the analog master tapes noise floor.Very good music too.
Frank
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - Duilawyer 13:46:20 12/28/03 (109)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - Stereo Steve 20:20:15 12/29/03 (1)
- Partly Agree - Robertc88 02:43:44 12/31/03 (0)
- Ignorant neurosurgeon (or did you hear wrong?). - Kal Rubinson 10:19:37 12/29/03 (13)
- Re: Ignorant neurosurgeon (or did you hear wrong?). - Christine Tham 12:16:02 12/29/03 (12)
- Re: Ignorant neurosurgeon (or did you hear wrong?). - Kal Rubinson 12:53:24 12/29/03 (11)
- I am lost. I could forward the question if anyone wants. nt - Duilawyer 18:52:38 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Ignorant neurosurgeon (or did you hear wrong?). - Frank. 14:14:19 12/29/03 (9)
- Oversimplification. - Kal Rubinson 17:50:18 12/29/03 (0)
- stupid questions... - NonA 15:13:21 12/29/03 (7)
- Very good questions, only 9 is a bit stupid... - Frank 15:37:10 12/29/03 (6)
- Re: Very good questions, only 9 is a bit stupid... - Kal Rubinson 18:27:41 12/29/03 (5)
- im surprised a concoction like this works at all... - NonA 10:10:33 12/30/03 (2)
- And the bee flies... - Kal Rubinson 15:51:39 12/30/03 (1)
- Thanks, i started probing the ref's in the link you gave ... - NonA 05:24:45 12/31/03 (0)
- Kal: This is starting to feel like old times... :) [NT] - LarryB 08:42:24 12/30/03 (0)
- Everyday you learn something new. - Frank. 00:30:33 12/30/03 (0)
- separate issues? - NonA 09:10:14 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - Khorn 07:41:50 12/29/03 (2)
- 24 bit remaster??? Have you heard it? nt - Duilawyer 08:03:29 12/29/03 (1)
- Re: 24 bit remaster??? Have you heard it? nt - Khorn 08:36:36 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - Max 04:58:00 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - Frank. 00:55:54 12/29/03 (0)
- Now that I find VERY hard to believe! - Lou S 22:06:03 12/28/03 (2)
- AND in fact, it was Friday, my mistake. MY first lie! CAUGHT! - Duilawyer 22:14:23 12/28/03 (1)
- Re: AND in fact, it was Friday, my mistake. MY first lie! CAUGHT! - Lou S 22:15:30 12/28/03 (0)
- how many tests does it take? - tunenut 20:15:21 12/28/03 (20)
- Because if there is something there, worth more $$, I am willing to go for it. - Duilawyer 22:16:54 12/28/03 (19)
- don't be an ass... - chris e. 21:08:12 12/30/03 (0)
- Re: Because if there is something there, worth more $$, I am willing to go for it. - swanlee 11:19:10 12/30/03 (1)
- Yep, - LWR 19:36:10 12/30/03 (0)
- by the way, dig up the 45 RPM reissue of Time Out - tunenut 09:20:44 12/29/03 (1)
- Will do, if possible. nt - Duilawyer 18:40:59 12/29/03 (0)
- Yes - Lou S 07:08:18 12/29/03 (2)
- Wow, a labor of love. Very decent! - Duilawyer 08:05:59 12/29/03 (1)
- Re: Wow, a labor of love. Very decent! - Lou S 08:15:26 12/29/03 (0)
- Rather Spend My Bucks This Way Instead - Robertc88 03:36:03 12/29/03 (2)
- slipping between the seats- - Duilawyer 18:48:53 12/29/03 (1)
- Why Buy The CD If The SACD Is Available? - Robertc88 02:49:41 12/30/03 (0)
- Re: Because if there is something there, worth more $$, I am willing to go for it. - cf@tiscali.se 02:59:02 12/29/03 (4)
- Wouldn't you know it; we have none of the same SACD's. - Duilawyer 18:50:29 12/29/03 (0)
- Woudln't you know it; we have none of the same SACD's. - Duilawyer 18:50:05 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Because if there is something there, worth more $$, I am willing to go for it. - stvnharr 10:30:56 12/29/03 (1)
- WOW Type Difference - Robertc88 02:47:59 12/30/03 (0)
- Me too.nt - Guss2 02:53:36 12/29/03 (0)
- Yes. I hear huge differences.[nt] - bhvf 00:39:37 12/29/03 (0)
- Yep (nt) - vettracer 22:33:09 12/28/03 (0)
- About that neurosurgeon... - rebop 19:55:40 12/28/03 (4)
- If the neuron can only fire 10M times a second, that would not matter. - Duilawyer 22:08:19 12/28/03 (1)
- I have no idea what you are trying to say here - rebop 10:17:35 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: About that neurosurgeon... - cjfrbw 20:14:41 12/28/03 (1)
- True, and really this guy was just trying to figure out - Duilawyer 22:10:08 12/28/03 (0)
- Looks like someone did not write a letter....... - Alex Peychev 17:11:46 12/28/03 (13)
- Oh, the imaginary "If you had a better system" ruse. - Duilawyer 19:51:02 12/28/03 (9)
- Re: Oh, the imaginary "If you had a better system" ruse. - Polkadot 09:18:14 12/29/03 (0)
- 10 M? Really...? - Rip@ti 01:06:14 12/29/03 (0)
- Sure.......:-)............ - Alex Peychev 23:33:39 12/28/03 (6)
- Re: Sure.......:-)............ - Khorn 08:50:41 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Sure.......:-)............ - Retsel 07:00:57 12/29/03 (0)
- 24/96 DADs sound better than SACD? - Ric Schultz 00:05:04 12/29/03 (3)
- Sure Ric............. - Alex Peychev 00:10:48 12/29/03 (2)
- derams?--folks still use them? - Des 17:39:26 12/29/03 (0)
- If you like 24/96, you will love 24/192 - Eric LeRouge 03:52:48 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: Looks like someone did not write a letter....... - Jazz Inmate 19:18:44 12/28/03 (2)
- Re: Looks like someone did not write a letter....... - vettracer 22:15:24 12/28/03 (1)
- Power and isolation are needed to appreiciate SACD! - Duilawyer 19:52:05 12/28/03 (0)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - cjfrbw 15:59:28 12/28/03 (2)
- What woudl the Take 5 SACD 2 channel be, of these? nt - Duilawyer 16:10:13 12/28/03 (1)
- Dunno - cjfrbw 16:14:52 12/28/03 (0)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - vettracer 15:56:28 12/28/03 (2)
- I will listen, and I will hold further comment until I do. nt - Duilawyer 16:11:12 12/28/03 (1)
- Re: Comparison: Take 5; SACD to 24 bit remaster - cjfrbw 16:03:37 12/28/03 (0)
- They're from the same source - Jeremy123 15:49:47 12/28/03 (24)
- Re: They're from the same source - mgwilder 09:46:35 12/30/03 (0)
- Re: They're from the same source - mgwilder@hotmail.com 09:44:11 12/30/03 (2)
- Thanks for setting the record straight - Jazz Inmate 15:42:42 12/31/03 (0)
- Thanks for clarifying, Mark. (And glad to see you here!) (nt) - Russell 10:49:34 12/31/03 (0)
- A hoax? - Nefertiti 08:54:19 12/30/03 (1)
- Very interesting - whackamus 10:04:36 12/30/03 (0)
- Does SONY CONTEND there is an audible difference between - Duilawyer 16:33:16 12/28/03 (0)
- Re: They're from the same source - Stephen 15:58:30 12/28/03 (16)
- Stephen, you are correct. - Jeremy123 13:00:21 12/29/03 (10)
- Thanks for the reply and information - Stephen 13:21:51 12/29/03 (9)
- Hahaha... - Frank. 14:28:16 12/29/03 (8)
- Re: Hahaha... - Stephen 14:29:39 12/29/03 (7)
- And look at those reviews... :) - Frank. 14:44:08 12/29/03 (6)
- Played mine last night - Stephen 14:58:57 12/29/03 (5)
- Re: Played mine last night - Frank. 15:16:22 12/29/03 (4)
- So I take it then ... - Stephen 15:37:17 12/29/03 (3)
- You love this one... - Frank. 02:35:21 12/29/03 (0)
- Re: They're from the same source - Frank. 01:29:37 12/29/03 (3)
- I was hoping for an answer ... - Stephen 03:26:38 12/29/03 (2)
- Hahaha.. - Frank. 04:52:38 12/29/03 (1)
- Just think, if Philips was pushing PCM ... - Stephen 05:06:22 12/29/03 (1)
- Sony remastered CDs sound excellent, difficult to top by SACD (nt) - Nefertiti 15:45:43 12/28/03 (1)
- YES, This is also praise of the redbook. nt - Duilawyer 16:34:29 12/28/03 (0)
- Isn't the SACD "Take 5" from the PCM copy of master tape? - JimBo 14:34:02 12/28/03 (0)
- Cannot Have Controversy With Only 1 QB - Robertc88 13:59:25 12/28/03 (9)
- I don't follow your post; I did specifically buy - Duilawyer 14:37:11 12/28/03 (8)
- Here's another example... - Russell 01:02:57 12/29/03 (2)
- We've been down this road many times... - rebop 14:42:17 12/29/03 (1)
- Amen [nt] - Ted Smith 19:16:19 01/6/04 (0)
- Normally I ignor your posts as irrelevant but - Norm 17:07:20 12/28/03 (2)
- WRONG. - Duilawyer 19:54:13 12/28/03 (1)
- You are right, this was irrelevant also. nt - Norm 07:22:23 12/29/03 (0)
- Who said Brubeck's "Time Out" SACD was reference? - agentalbert 15:36:05 12/28/03 (1)
- The SACD whore. nt - Duilawyer 19:59:26 12/28/03 (0)
Follow Ups
- Nope. - Frank. 12/29/0315:48:40 12/29/03 (1)
- Nope - Stephen 15:54:26 12/29/03 (0)
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