In Reply to: I also disagree somewhat ... posted by Christine Tham on May 9, 2006 at 15:23:49:
when one throws PCM conversion of SACD into the mix....IMO, - the converting the SACD to PCM in the APL makes the SACD sound much better than direct DSD. But that's not the case on the Meitner, - (which does not do that, if I'm not mistaken). And, - I can't tell you whether or not the Meitner's really excellent SACD playback compared to its own redbook playback and other good SACD players is due to the fact its SACD technology/section is facing off with a not as good redbook section.
Perhaps I should temper my statement that Sony, Marantz, etc are not necessarily TRYING to purposely make their redbook section suck. But, especially in the case of the Marantz, - their redbook section DOES SUCK! This is really evident when one tosses the fine Benchmark DAC on it and vastly improves the redbook performance of the player. Whether or not it's more out of a lack of caring or not. But, if Marantz was building a $3000 redbook only CDP, - the quality would be a hell of a lot better than their SA-11. This evident with other players like the Ayre and Audio Aero where the differences between redbook and SACD are a hell of a lot less....
Again, everytime I play the Jazz at the Pawnshop SACD on my APL, and I've heard it too on the Ayre, Meitner and Esoteric: the redbook version of the same recording is MUCH better.... (more alive, more realistic, more organic, better PRAT).
But, - when I play Jazz at the Pawnshop redbook version vs the SACD version on the Marantz, - the SACD version is a lot better...
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Follow Ups
- Well... the issue is more complex with PCM - Sordidman 05/10/0610:45:11 05/10/06 (8)
- I suspect we are now talking about subjective perception ... - Christine Tham 15:50:35 05/10/06 (7)
- Re: I suspect we are now talking about subjective perception ... - Sordidman 16:12:42 05/10/06 (6)
- Thanks for your gracious reply - Christine Tham 17:32:11 05/10/06 (3)
- Of course... - Sordidman 20:06:31 05/10/06 (2)
- Re: Of course... - Christine Tham 23:12:04 05/10/06 (1)
- Grail? We've already got one!! - Sordidman 11:15:48 05/11/06 (0)
- A story - Ted Smith 16:27:55 05/10/06 (1)
- Well, - I am a huge Espresso fan: the heart of an Italian, nice story -t - Sordidman 16:30:14 05/10/06 (0)