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In Reply to: HP may have been well intended posted by Steve O on January 5, 2023 at 08:35:03:
So what was HP's response?Ten years before Stereophile created their first test CD (I have three of them), the good Dr. Cooledge (aka JWC) - member of ASO board, baritone in the ASO Chorus, perpetual season ticket holder, and TAS reviewer, was responsible for bringing Telarc to Atlanta for what ended up being a long term series of recordings. He funded a new bass drum after hearing the first Telarc recording of Holst. It was he who introduced me to his long term friend and got me a minor role in that recording of The Firebird .
It was quite an experience to hear the live sessions conducted over a two day period with frequent monitoring and critiquing by Robert Shaw between takes downstairs where Stockham and Renner set up the recording gear.
Nearly instantaneous live vs recording? Absolutely! Meeting Dr. Stockham, Robert Woods, Jack Renner and Robert Shaw? Priceless. Naturally, there was an extensive write up found in issue 14 about the experience. Got a "Special thanks to", myself. :)
On more than one occasion when HP flew down to Atl to visit his friend, I was invited to join them for an ASO concert. Did either of them have a good reference of the live event vs the many available Telarc Recordings of Woodruff Hall? Are you kidding me?
You may also not be aware of the TAS Sampler HP created and annotated in 2006:
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Analog Scott 23:03:38 01/2/23 (169)
- 156 responses so far and counting... - Ivan303 07:49:28 01/9/23 (0)
- Misuse of subjective/objective is never going to happen - Jay Buridan 11:53:25 01/8/23 (7)
- Is an apple red if nobody is looking at it? Nt - geoffkait 13:05:16 01/8/23 (3)
- RE: Is an apple red if nobody is looking at it? Nt - tomservo 13:33:19 01/8/23 (2)
- I'm pretty sure your example begged the question - Jay Buridan 06:50:07 01/10/23 (1)
- How is that begging the question? - Analog Scott 12:03:31 01/10/23 (0)
- "Each is the sound of one hand clapping" if you're talking the no sound you'd be correct - Story 12:00:01 01/8/23 (2)
- Mum's the word - Jay Buridan 06:55:00 01/10/23 (1)
- RE: Mum's the word - Story 07:26:55 01/10/23 (0)
- Toole & Oliver are about statistically compiling subjective preferences ... - Feanor 04:50:27 01/6/23 (40)
- RE: Toole & Oliver are about statistically compiling subjective preferences ... - hahax@verizon.net 10:12:46 01/8/23 (5)
- To me that's a red flag - Analog Scott 13:54:11 01/8/23 (4)
- But then, there's the other problem. - peppy m. 08:43:06 01/10/23 (3)
- absolutely - Analog Scott 12:05:38 01/10/23 (0)
- Good doesn't mean anything. Good is the enemy of the best. Nt - geoffkait 08:56:54 01/10/23 (1)
- In the minds of some, perhaps. (nt - peppy m. 09:14:21 01/10/23 (0)
- RE: Toole & Oliver are about statistically compiling subjective preferences ... - geoffkait 05:32:10 01/6/23 (33)
- Toole's research at the NRC long preceded his work at Harman, and was not a marketing ploy - Brian H P 16:08:48 01/10/23 (3)
- Logical fallacy alert! - geoffkait 17:18:38 01/10/23 (2)
- "Enjoyment" is a subjective phenomenon, and not meaningless to those who experience it - Brian H P 13:19:08 01/11/23 (1)
- Reminds me of Pleasantville, everything is pleasant, in a black and white kind of way. - geoffkait 14:12:34 01/11/23 (0)
- RE: Toole & Oliver are about statistically compiling subjective preferences ... - tomservo 14:57:59 01/6/23 (20)
- Agree that a downward sloping FR curve sounds better - Feanor 06:26:11 01/7/23 (3)
- RE: Agree that a downward sloping FR curve sounds better - geoffkait 08:29:57 01/7/23 (2)
- RE: Agree that a downward sloping FR curve sounds better - tomservo 09:00:49 01/7/23 (1)
- RE: Agree that a downward sloping FR curve sounds better - geoffkait 09:57:07 01/7/23 (0)
- May have been so 30 years ago. Not now - Analog Scott 18:02:37 01/6/23 (12)
- RE: May have been so 30 years ago. Not now - hahax@verizon.net 10:22:42 01/8/23 (1)
- RE: May have been so 30 years ago. Not now - Analog Scott 16:05:44 01/8/23 (0)
- RE: May have been so 30 years ago. Not now - tomservo 07:46:35 01/7/23 (3)
- RE: May have been so 30 years ago. Not now - geoffkait 13:36:39 01/8/23 (0)
- RE: May have been so 30 years ago. Not now - Analog Scott 05:15:10 01/8/23 (0)
- Enlightening, appreciative the quality, lot to digest - Edp 23:13:03 01/7/23 (0)
- True, but there remains the issues of dispersion and distortion - Feanor 06:31:43 01/7/23 (1)
- RE: True, but there remains the issues of dispersion and distortion - Analog Scott 04:56:03 01/8/23 (0)
- BTW, there's a new Yuja thread over in Classical - Chris from Lafayette 19:14:06 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: BTW, there's a new Yuja thread over in Classical - tomservo 08:55:24 01/7/23 (0)
- Ahem. . . as I was saying elsewhere in this thread. . . - Chris from Lafayette 19:11:00 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: Ahem. . . as I was saying elsewhere in this thread. . . - Analog Scott 21:32:49 01/6/23 (0)
- "Frequency response is the dominant audible property of loudspeakers." - geoffkait 15:40:28 01/6/23 (2)
- RE: "Frequency response is the dominant audible property of loudspeakers." - tomservo 17:17:15 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: "Frequency response is the dominant audible property of loudspeakers." - geoffkait 05:08:09 01/7/23 (0)
- But one could easily show that you also work by marketing ploy - Edp 09:56:44 01/6/23 (7)
- I never said marketing ploys were bad, silly. - geoffkait 11:07:04 01/6/23 (6)
- Award winning backstroke - Edp 11:33:17 01/6/23 (5)
- Ed, you're up against the "nicest guy in high school" award winner - Story 12:36:27 01/6/23 (3)
- That's weird, I always pictured you in a dress. Nt - geoffkait 13:21:55 01/6/23 (2)
- Something wrong with wearing both types of clothing ? - peppy m. 14:52:38 01/6/23 (0)
- you gotta stop coming on to me Geoff, I'm not that kind of girl - Story 14:40:02 01/6/23 (0)
- Reading comprehension fail - geoffkait 11:57:49 01/6/23 (0)
- Is it time for Rodney King? - mlsstl 09:27:01 01/5/23 (0)
- RE: Isn't time we stopped... - B. Scarpia 18:06:35 01/4/23 (8)
- RE: Isn't time we stopped... - DustyC 08:22:15 01/5/23 (7)
- What would you like to talk about? - geoffkait 08:43:03 01/5/23 (6)
- RE: What would you like to talk about? - DustyC 13:12:39 01/5/23 (4)
- Nothing? - geoffkait 13:34:19 01/5/23 (3)
- RE: Something meaningful to all, like... - B. Scarpia 08:50:15 01/5/23 (0)
- Pseudo-Science - Goober58 15:59:59 01/4/23 (1)
- RE: Pseudo-Science - chocolate_lover 16:35:38 01/4/23 (0)
- Isn't it time we stop abusing subjectivists and objectivist? - tomservo 12:22:19 01/4/23 (1)
- Have you checked this out yet? - Analog Scott 19:50:51 01/4/23 (0)
- "Both actual scientists who are advocates of using scientific protocols" - geoffkait 10:41:24 01/4/23 (0)
- Agreed. We are all a little bit of both. - Ozzie 08:20:06 01/4/23 (1)
- RE: Agreed. We are all a little bit of both. - Analog Scott 15:45:03 01/4/23 (0)
- Well, looks like it worked. nt - ghost of olddude55 05:32:53 01/4/23 (3)
- not really. Looks like some folks missed the ;-) part nt - Analog Scott 18:09:38 01/4/23 (0)
- Getting a LOT more attention than the "Being Immersed in Music" thread... - musetap 11:02:05 01/4/23 (1)
- Now we're being immersed in something else. Nt - geoffkait 12:14:58 01/4/23 (0)
- It comes down to whether or not you believe only things in the signal path affect the sound. - geoffkait 03:54:51 01/4/23 (24)
- If subconscious forces are as powerful as you claim they are... - peppy m. 08:54:22 01/10/23 (0)
- Did your objectivist side or your subjectivist side reach those conclusions? - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 17:53:28 01/4/23 (7)
- You're getting colder - geoffkait 04:59:32 01/5/23 (6)
- RE: You're getting colder - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 13:05:16 01/5/23 (5)
- Excuse me?! - geoffkait 14:25:55 01/5/23 (4)
- RE: Excuse me?! - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 19:30:26 01/5/23 (3)
- RE: Excuse me?! - geoffkait 02:45:57 01/6/23 (2)
- RE: Excuse me?! - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 12:38:24 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: Excuse me?! - geoffkait 13:24:48 01/6/23 (0)
- Please provide a list of things that do not make a system sound bad. - peppy m. 15:54:33 01/4/23 (10)
- "Is everything bad for the sound?" - geoffkait 16:14:07 01/4/23 (9)
- OTOH. . . - Chris from Lafayette 17:41:38 01/4/23 (8)
- I see what you mean - geoffkait 05:05:12 01/5/23 (7)
- RE: "these subconscious mental states" - Sounds like what is called "autism" elsewhere. - peppy m. 09:07:11 01/5/23 (6)
- You're getting colder. Nt - geoffkait 09:24:57 01/5/23 (5)
- I know, I know. But putting clothing on might disturb the sound. (nt - peppy m. 09:30:06 01/5/23 (4)
- You're a sick little monkey. :-) - geoffkait 09:34:53 01/5/23 (3)
- He may be "a sick little monkey", but he could be on to something! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:58:51 01/5/23 (2)
- Monkey see, monkey do ! - peppy m. 15:33:34 01/7/23 (0)
- I never said he wasn't on something. Nt - geoffkait 12:04:57 01/5/23 (0)
- Good points geoff - Chris from Lafayette 13:23:16 01/4/23 (3)
- RE: Good points geoff - geoffkait 13:55:03 01/4/23 (0)
- But there are "special tweaks" for that ;-) - AbeCollins 13:36:57 01/4/23 (1)
- You mean the scary ones? - geoffkait 13:43:57 01/4/23 (0)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Krav Maga 21:27:18 01/3/23 (6)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Analog Scott 00:49:11 01/4/23 (5)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - 91derlust 01:32:21 01/4/23 (4)
- dang! good catch - Analog Scott 18:17:31 01/4/23 (3)
- RE: dang! good catch - Inmate51 19:29:55 01/4/23 (2)
- RE: dang! good catch - geoffkait 05:12:44 01/5/23 (0)
- now you're just piling on.... - Analog Scott 19:53:10 01/4/23 (0)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Tre' 19:14:17 01/3/23 (4)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Analog Scott 19:35:43 01/3/23 (3)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Tre' 06:37:01 01/4/23 (0)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Rod M 20:00:37 01/3/23 (1)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Analog Scott 21:14:44 01/3/23 (0)
- This mean we're done arguing about absolute polarity?... - musetap 16:39:58 01/3/23 (4)
- There is a bunch of things we could debate but the group is burned out on them - geoffkait 09:34:32 01/4/23 (2)
- We could debate whether debating OR arguing subjects is preferable... - musetap 12:44:58 01/4/23 (1)
- They're the same thing - geoffkait 04:20:42 01/8/23 (0)
- RE: This mean we're done arguing about absolute polarity?... - Todd Krieger 02:09:28 01/4/23 (0)
- Because of how you have tailored your definitions, it distorts the discussion - Rzado 16:17:00 01/3/23 (1)
- OK...OK....an interesting post - Analog Scott 18:45:37 01/3/23 (0)
- Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - peppy m. 12:45:34 01/3/23 (7)
- Not exactly the same, but... - E-Stat 14:28:38 01/3/23 (0)
- RE: Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - Analog Scott 14:16:25 01/3/23 (5)
- RE: Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - Krav Maga 19:33:00 01/4/23 (1)
- RE: Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - Analog Scott 21:50:24 01/4/23 (0)
- RE: Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - Krav Maga 19:33:38 01/3/23 (2)
- RE: Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - Inmate51 21:19:13 01/4/23 (0)
- RE: Compare source signal input with loudspeaker output at the listening position. - Analog Scott 21:21:49 01/3/23 (0)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Todd Krieger 12:41:19 01/3/23 (1)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Analog Scott 15:06:19 01/3/23 (0)
- how much do they pay? - Story 11:57:00 01/3/23 (0)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Inmate51 10:48:24 01/3/23 (1)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Analog Scott 15:41:42 01/3/23 (0)
- RE: Such Nonsense! - Mel 10:38:47 01/3/23 (17)
- You must understand - E-Stat 12:37:09 01/3/23 (14)
- RE: You must understand - Analog Scott 12:45:49 01/3/23 (13)
- Happy New Year! - E-Stat 14:24:29 01/3/23 (12)
- RE: Happy New Year! - Inmate51 10:45:41 01/4/23 (11)
- RE: Happy New Year! - Mel 10:38:48 01/5/23 (5)
- RE: Happy New Year! - Analog Scott 16:20:34 01/5/23 (0)
- An Important Point? - Inmate51 12:13:49 01/5/23 (3)
- Specifi tone is not the only character involved - E-Stat 14:27:59 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: Specifi tone is not the only character involved - Analog Scott 21:57:35 01/6/23 (0)
- RE: An Important Point? - Analog Scott 16:21:54 01/5/23 (0)
- RE: Happy New Year! - Analog Scott 18:15:05 01/4/23 (4)
- Of Microphones and Sound - Inmate51 11:39:45 01/5/23 (0)
- HP may have been well intended - Steve O 08:35:03 01/5/23 (2)
- A bit more than that... - E-Stat 01/6/2314:03:19 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: A bit more than that... - Analog Scott 22:54:48 01/6/23 (0)
- RE: Such Nonsense! - Analog Scott 12:12:44 01/3/23 (1)
- Use of bad language and ad hominem attacks is not really a good way to win arguments. Nt - geoffkait 12:22:41 01/3/23 (0)
- Ain't nothin' pure in this world ? (nt - peppy m. 10:17:36 01/3/23 (0)
- nope, I'm against it. - LtMandella 09:34:34 01/3/23 (0)
- I think each INDIVIDUAL can have his or her own "absolute sound" reference, but that personal - MWE 08:01:21 01/3/23 (0)
- Actually - E-Stat 06:49:07 01/3/23 (0)
- RE: Something for us to argue about :-) Isn't it time we stop misusing "subjectivist" and "objectivist"? - Ivan303 06:25:49 01/3/23 (0)
- You can't debunk something that's not bunk. - geoffkait 04:12:14 01/3/23 (16)
- Got a source for that "quote"? - Steve O 05:52:56 01/3/23 (15)
- Daniel Drasin - -æ- 07:35:41 01/3/23 (2)
- Found it . . . Unclear so far that it supports Geoff (nt) - Steve O 07:41:20 01/3/23 (1)
- Informed skepticism vs uninformed pseudo-skepticism - geoffkait 14:31:57 01/4/23 (0)
- RE: Got a source for that "quote"? - geoffkait 06:03:42 01/3/23 (11)
- So . . . - Steve O 07:01:34 01/3/23 (10)
- It's a rhetorical statement - geoffkait 09:15:53 01/3/23 (9)
- "promising fields of inquiry" Is not a rhetorical statement - Steve O 09:25:34 01/3/23 (8)
- Fair enough - geoffkait 11:43:59 01/3/23 (7)
- With your most recent edit - Steve O 16:42:06 01/3/23 (6)
- The article I quoted was written 30 years ago. Hel-loo! Nt - geoffkait 17:45:28 01/3/23 (2)
- And?????? - Steve O 18:38:03 01/3/23 (1)
- Those "promising fields of inquiry" were not as fully investigated as they are today. Nt - geoffkait 02:54:46 01/4/23 (0)
- Why would anyone respond to comments I deleted? Nt - geoffkait 17:01:39 01/3/23 (2)
- Because had I the time to respond when I first read it - Steve O 18:37:05 01/3/23 (1)
- You never put your toe in the same stream twice - geoffkait 05:51:20 01/4/23 (0)
- Good points, Scott! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 00:47:40 01/3/23 (0)
Follow Ups
- A bit more than that... - E-Stat 01/6/2314:03:19 01/6/23 (1)
- RE: A bit more than that... - Analog Scott 22:54:48 01/6/23 (0)
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