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In Reply to: Yes posted by Analog Scott on June 25, 2022 at 00:49:19:
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - I guess the question is still not resolved, after all these years - LtMandella 21:03:11 06/22/22 (93)
- A peculiar anomaly - geoffkait 06:18:32 06/29/22 (6)
- RE: A peculiar anomaly - peppy m. 08:37:28 07/2/22 (5)
- RE: A peculiar anomaly - geoffkait 12:43:12 07/2/22 (4)
- The persistence of distortion - peppy m. 14:16:19 07/2/22 (3)
- RE: The persistence of distortion - geoffkait 04:15:03 07/3/22 (2)
- Those pesky residues - you try washing them out, you try scrubbing them out. (nt - peppy m. 12:52:04 07/5/22 (1)
- Don't worry, you can't control the subconscious. - geoffkait 14:11:57 07/5/22 (0)
- Years later Julian was a guest on Peter Sutheim radio show, "In Fidility" and said... - Tre' 14:13:26 06/27/22 (1)
- But that's not what he said. - geoffkait 14:23:29 06/27/22 (0)
- OK, who's genius who said all amps that measure the same sound the same? - geoffkait 13:31:40 06/27/22 (7)
- That would have been Julian Hirsch of Stereo Review. nt - Tre' 13:40:37 06/27/22 (6)
- No two amps acually measure the same - Analog Scott 16:30:48 06/27/22 (5)
- RE: No two amps acually measure the same - Tre' 18:18:21 06/27/22 (4)
- What Julian said vs reality - Analog Scott 12:11:26 06/29/22 (0)
- The same amp never sounds the same in different rooms or systems. . - geoffkait 04:10:38 06/28/22 (2)
- You don't know what I'm thinking - Tre' 11:36:40 06/28/22 (1)
- I actually agree with Julian Hirsch. How about them apples? - geoffkait 13:30:23 06/28/22 (0)
- let's start with a clarification. Specs or actual measurements? - Analog Scott 00:40:58 06/25/22 (0)
- RE: Actually, it is! - Ralph 09:32:50 06/24/22 (45)
- RE: Actually, it is! - CG 12:45:23 06/27/22 (6)
- You'd think that somebody somewhere would have studied this academically. - Ralph 13:06:32 06/27/22 (5)
- Dunno why you guys don't rap about this in musical terms using the harmonic series. - Rick W 12:29:15 07/2/22 (1)
- +1 nt - Ralph 12:22:37 07/11/22 (0)
- RE: You'd think that somebody somewhere would have studied this academically. - CG 15:07:13 06/28/22 (1)
- Stability in amplifiers - Ralph 11:09:35 06/29/22 (0)
- RE: You'd think that somebody somewhere would have studied this academically. - CG 13:35:17 06/27/22 (0)
- How about an example? - Dave_K 06:11:14 06/27/22 (11)
- RE: Yes. - Ralph 09:16:58 06/27/22 (2)
- What would I look at to tell a good SET from a bad SET? - Dave_K 15:28:34 06/27/22 (1)
- intersting! You are correct - Ralph 11:57:47 06/28/22 (0)
- RE: How about an example? - tketcham 06:24:52 06/27/22 (6)
- RE: Look at distortion vs frequency - Ralph 08:46:53 06/27/22 (5)
- RE: Distortion at 50Hz - tketcham 10:19:52 06/27/22 (1)
- RE: 50Hz to me is a red flag - Ralph 10:29:28 06/27/22 (0)
- Volume level low = good. - peppy m. 09:37:24 06/27/22 (2)
- RE: Volume level low = good. - Ralph 09:48:04 06/27/22 (1)
- I love it when stuff like that happens, occasionally. (nt - peppy m. 09:52:31 06/27/22 (0)
- better idea - Story 06:22:13 06/27/22 (0)
- +2; too many audiophile are old-timers living in the past - Feanor 08:17:57 06/26/22 (2)
- RE: 2nd and 3rd harmonics - Ralph 09:45:08 06/27/22 (0)
- so write a book trotting out a good explanation of what's going on - Story 08:22:25 06/26/22 (0)
- RE: Actually, it is! - CG 16:51:13 06/25/22 (0)
- You can measure anything I hear ? Somehow I doubt this. (nt - peppy m. 15:16:19 06/25/22 (8)
- Me too- I can't follow you around with microphones :) nt - Ralph 09:48:53 06/27/22 (2)
- Actually, you can. But I charge a hefty user fee. (nt - peppy m. 10:14:54 06/27/22 (1)
- :) nt - Ralph 10:26:12 06/27/22 (0)
- Why do you doubt it? - Analog Scott 17:33:34 06/25/22 (4)
- Can't measure if or why you Like something or what your experience listening is. nt - oldmkvi 07:25:00 06/27/22 (1)
- Sure you can - Analog Scott 16:34:46 06/27/22 (0)
- In theory, yes, you can measure everything - Dave_K 06:06:32 06/27/22 (1)
- We have some work from Harman on loudspeaker frequency response.. - Ralph 09:50:22 06/27/22 (0)
- What a Great Post ! --- Meant for those that believe in Science ! ---nt - Cut-Throat 08:20:54 06/25/22 (11)
- Yet how applicable are those predictions to results to those who purchase the amp? - Goober58 13:47:59 06/27/22 (2)
- Much better than a Stereophile Review! ............... nt - Cut-Throat 14:42:34 06/27/22 (1)
- Maybe, maybe not - Goober58 15:13:39 06/27/22 (0)
- Good catch! It's always the English majors and hairdressers, ain't it? - geoffkait 08:28:33 06/25/22 (7)
- hairdressers believe in science - mhardy6647 16:46:18 06/25/22 (6)
- audio is all about biology (ears) -- and that's what makes it interesting... - mhardy6647 19:27:34 06/26/22 (4)
- Audio is all about the brain, including subconscious and memory. - geoffkait 03:54:23 06/27/22 (3)
- no wonder people take you seriously - Story 05:18:11 06/27/22 (2)
- So sayeth the person without one. - geoffkait 05:51:15 06/27/22 (1)
- let's meet as little as we can - Story 05:58:35 06/27/22 (0)
- The trouble arises when they try to apply biology to audio. Nt - geoffkait 04:44:52 06/26/22 (0)
- +1 - j c maxwell 15:52:49 06/24/22 (0)
- Actually I thought the issue was resolved long ago - Goober58 13:23:52 06/23/22 (6)
- RE: "What's the point of maximizing objective performance when dealing with imperfect media?" - peppy m. 17:41:20 06/23/22 (2)
- RE: "What's the point of maximizing objective performance when dealing with imperfect media?" - Goober58 23:31:42 06/23/22 (1)
- RE: "What's the point of maximizing objective performance when dealing with imperfect media?" - Story 03:05:29 06/25/22 (0)
- " Audio can be as much an art as it is a technical achievement " - Story 13:34:52 06/23/22 (2)
- RE: " Audio can be as much an art as it is a technical achievement " - Goober58 23:57:24 06/23/22 (1)
- it's a quest for better - Story 03:11:27 06/24/22 (0)
- It can't be answered... - Rocket_Powered 12:07:48 06/23/22 (0)
- SINAD, baby! and electrical efficiency - mhardy6647 09:42:30 06/23/22 (1)
- You're missing the most important part! - E-Stat 14:55:18 06/23/22 (0)
- It has been resolved over and over again. - ppopp 08:02:57 06/23/22 (14)
- but -- dontcha think -- it would be feasible, even easy, today, to correlate the measured with the perceived? - mhardy6647 09:48:00 06/23/22 (12)
- Yes - Analog Scott 00:49:19 06/25/22 (7)
- totally concur (nt) - mhardy6647 06/25/2206:15:05 06/25/22 (6)
- OK guys, how about an example? - Dave_K 06:38:11 06/25/22 (5)
- You just moved the goal posts - Analog Scott 10:58:46 06/25/22 (4)
- I don't think I did - Dave_K 06:08:34 06/26/22 (3)
- specs are a straw man - Analog Scott 09:56:39 06/26/22 (2)
- OK, you can use whatever measurements you want - Dave_K 07:48:42 06/27/22 (1)
- for speakers I know what I'm looking for - Analog Scott 13:59:58 06/28/22 (0)
- If you can, you're better than me - Dave_K 10:00:13 06/24/22 (0)
- How does one measure soundstage depth, transparency or air? Nt - geoffkait 12:06:50 06/23/22 (2)
- 'fraid you totally missed my point, sir - mhardy6647 14:52:43 06/23/22 (1)
- "But thanks for baiting me!" - geoffkait 15:09:37 06/23/22 (0)
- +1. - Mick Wolfe 09:06:39 06/23/22 (0)
- It hasn't been resolved yet? Thank goodness! Nt - geoffkait 06:02:36 06/23/22 (0)
- RE: I guess the question is still not resolved, after all these years - itolduso1000timesb4 02:52:53 06/23/22 (0)
- It would have been, but then, you know... - musetap 23:26:03 06/22/22 (1)
- And supply chain issues and Trump and Biden. Nt - srdavis2000 03:31:42 06/23/22 (0)
Follow Ups
- totally concur (nt) - mhardy6647 06/25/2206:15:05 06/25/22 (6)
- OK guys, how about an example? - Dave_K 06:38:11 06/25/22 (5)
- You just moved the goal posts - Analog Scott 10:58:46 06/25/22 (4)
- I don't think I did - Dave_K 06:08:34 06/26/22 (3)
- specs are a straw man - Analog Scott 09:56:39 06/26/22 (2)
- OK, you can use whatever measurements you want - Dave_K 07:48:42 06/27/22 (1)
- for speakers I know what I'm looking for - Analog Scott 13:59:58 06/28/22 (0)