In Reply to: Ah, but then again ... posted by Feanor on March 31, 2022 at 07:59:03:
> > Toole certainly cannot control for the effects of individual rooms but he didn't ignore rooms reflections.> >
Not only did he not ignore them he made them a requisit of speaker performance in testing room. So he in effect closed the door on speakers that "don't corner well."
> > To address this Toole found that uniform response, i.e. similar frequency response curves at various degrees off-axis was also a critical aspect of measuring for good speaker performance.> >
He simply limited the scope of the studies to commercial interests. Buyers with small,"normal" or "average" rooms with noconsideration of dedicated rooms that can and often will be supplimented with room treatment
> > It's true that a constraint of Toole's testing was that it only reliably pertained to unipole speakers and not so much to dipole models such as electrostatics or Magneplanars.> >
Ah, but that wasn't their conclusion. their conclusion was that allof those dipoles were simply inferior designs.
> > But at least for unipole speakers, IMO, soundstage as well as transparency can be inferred for single-speaker testing. Both of these attributes, of course, mostly depend on the recording: accurate, (vs. euphonic), sound must not be judged on the seeming ability of playback components to simulate such effects.> >
I don't think their tests offer up much support for this belief. there are clear gross flaws in their stereo vs mono test.It is way too small of a study to draw concrete conclusions and IMO their interpretation of the data that I am seeing is more wishful thinking than objective analysis.
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- RE: Ah, but then again ... - Analog Scott 04/1/2205:06:41 04/1/22 (3)
- OTOH, many audiophiles reject Toole's conclusions simply because... - Feanor 08:43:46 04/1/22 (2)
- RE: OTOH, many audiophiles reject Toole's conclusions simply because... - Analog Scott 11:02:24 04/1/22 (0)
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