RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult

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Topic - ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Analog Scott 11:00:10 03/27/22 (103)

The Harman research is useful and informative, but it's not the last word - Dave_K 15:10:02 03/30/22 (28)

Agreed. It does show that many listeners prefer technically "accurate" speakers. - Brian H P 16:52:28 03/30/22 (27)

accuracy and tonality - DrChaos 11:48:09 04/1/22 (8)

RE: accuracy and tonality - Analog Scott 16:29:02 04/1/22 (7)

elaborate more? - DrChaos 17:50:41 04/3/22 (6)

RE: elaborate more? - Analog Scott 20:02:01 04/3/22 (5)

Interesting graph from your link - Feanor 06:23:22 04/4/22 (3)

RE: Interesting graph from your link - Analog Scott 06:21:11 04/5/22 (1)

"There is no imaging in mono," he said authoritatively - geoffkait 06:37:21 04/5/22 (0)

Mono can sound more spacious than stereo. Hel-loo! - geoffkait 08:42:56 04/4/22 (0)

"That's how we listen" - geoffkait 02:14:11 04/4/22 (0)

Logical fallacy alert! Big time! - geoffkait 05:26:08 03/31/22 (8)

It wasn't a great example, but the point is valid - Dave_K 06:24:05 03/31/22 (7)

You say yes, I say no, you say goodbye, I say hello - geoffkait 06:40:04 03/31/22 (0)

the point is valid. It is supported by an actual study - Analog Scott 06:30:31 03/31/22 (5)

Just as I suspected, there is no study. Nt - geoffkait 04:26:14 04/1/22 (0)

Show me the study wrt speaker color. That's all you have to do. Nt - geoffkait 08:12:14 03/31/22 (3)

every form of refuse has it's price - Story 08:51:25 03/31/22 (2)

If you swallow it...- - geoffkait 09:13:53 03/31/22 (1)

when here, only you would know that fersure - Story 09:20:01 03/31/22 (0)

If I am building the fastest dragster in the world, I don't worry about how it corners - Analog Scott 03:56:17 03/31/22 (8)

RE: If I am building the fastest dragster in the world, I don't worry about how it corners - Dave_K 08:16:28 03/31/22 (2)

RE: "Late reflections enhance spaciousness, not early reflections." - peppy m. 14:15:38 04/2/22 (0)

RE: If I am building the fastest dragster in the world, I don't worry about how it corners - Analog Scott 07:01:31 04/1/22 (0)

Ah, but then again ... - Feanor 07:59:03 03/31/22 (4)

RE: Ah, but then again ... - Analog Scott 05:06:41 04/1/22 (3)

OTOH, many audiophiles reject Toole's conclusions simply because... - Feanor 08:43:46 04/1/22 (2)

RE: OTOH, many audiophiles reject Toole's conclusions simply because... - Analog Scott 11:02:24 04/1/22 (0)

Tool O'Toole - Story 10:18:58 04/1/22 (0)

Detailed Responses...... - Todd Krieger 18:34:13 03/28/22 (1)

And the Linn people would insist evaluating speakers with no other speakers in the room - geoffkait 06:48:24 03/30/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Pat D 03/28/2213:39:11 03/28/22 (16)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - RGA 18:35:14 03/28/22 (14)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - geoffkait 08:25:15 03/29/22 (13)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - RGA 18:10:11 03/29/22 (12)

A perfect test - geoffkait 20:54:26 03/29/22 (0)

hold on there - Analog Scott 19:14:42 03/29/22 (10)

RE: hold on there - RGA 22:45:15 03/29/22 (8)

Students he didn't like - geoffkait 04:50:05 03/30/22 (6)

RE: Students he didn't like - RGA 07:44:02 04/1/22 (5)

RE: Students he didn't like - geoffkait 09:17:02 04/1/22 (4)

RE: Students he didn't like - RGA 00:31:44 04/2/22 (3)

RE: Students he didn't like - geoffkait 05:23:44 04/2/22 (2)

RE: Students he didn't like - RGA 19:31:49 04/2/22 (1)

RE: Students he didn't like - geoffkait 09:59:02 04/3/22 (0)

RE: hold on there - Analog Scott 04:38:09 03/30/22 (0)

Logical fallacy alert - geoffkait 20:57:49 03/29/22 (0)

I think that's a great question Pat - Analog Scott 14:16:59 03/28/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Todd Krieger 10:48:21 03/28/22 (14)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Analog Scott 11:29:53 03/28/22 (13)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Rich H v2 13:24:39 03/29/22 (3)

By the way. Please invite some of them to come here and participate - Analog Scott 14:51:52 03/29/22 (1)

How about let's not and say we did? - geoffkait 15:34:25 03/29/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Analog Scott 14:33:40 03/29/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Pat D 13:45:55 03/28/22 (8)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Todd Krieger 17:28:50 03/28/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Analog Scott 14:21:27 03/28/22 (1)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - geoffkait 08:27:44 03/29/22 (0)

that's a stupid rule - Story 14:09:39 03/28/22 (4)

RE: that's a stupid rule - Todd Krieger 17:34:03 03/28/22 (2)

RE: that's a stupid rule - Pat D 07:33:31 04/4/22 (0)

RE: that's a stupid rule - Analog Scott 18:15:26 03/28/22 (0)

RE: that's a stupid rule - Analog Scott 14:24:58 03/28/22 (0)

Everyone has an ulterior motive for insisting on Controlled blind tests. Nt - geoffkait 05:23:33 03/28/22 (0)

Shuffle off to Buffalo! The Amazing Randi's got HK beat by a mile. Nt - geoffkait 18:18:14 03/27/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - RGA 17:44:09 03/27/22 (15)

Types of validity - pbarach 09:17:20 04/2/22 (7)

RE: Types of validity - RGA 05:32:12 04/4/22 (5)

conflict of interest - Analog Scott 08:01:19 04/7/22 (1)

RE: conflict of interest - geoffkait 13:48:26 04/8/22 (0)

one more thing - pbarach 07:59:54 04/4/22 (0)

RE: Types of validity - pbarach 07:48:18 04/4/22 (0)

Conflict of interest - geoffkait 06:52:32 04/4/22 (0)

RE: Types of validity - Analog Scott 10:47:29 04/2/22 (0)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - geoffkait 12:26:33 03/28/22 (0)

"Blind" Testing......... - Todd Krieger 11:02:14 03/28/22 (1)

RE: "Blind" Testing......... - Analog Scott 11:33:40 03/28/22 (0)

Agree that a test method can be "Reliable" without being "Valid" - Feanor 06:03:36 03/28/22 (3)

The best way to do a preference based blind test - RGA 18:57:43 03/28/22 (2)

So I liked 'Power of the Dog' better than 'Dune' - Feanor 04:41:03 03/29/22 (1)

RE: So I liked 'Power of the Dog' better than 'Dune' - RGA 04:59:39 03/29/22 (0)

If the test was done in your room with your system and you? nt - G Squared 16:59:25 03/27/22 (1)

RE: If the test was done in your room with your system and you? nt - Analog Scott 17:33:32 03/27/22 (0)

I had a brief discussion with Olive about the shuffler - E-Stat 14:21:45 03/27/22 (1)

RE: I had a brief discussion with Olive about the shuffler - Analog Scott 14:54:51 03/27/22 (0)

On PBS radio - jedrider 14:09:47 03/27/22 (3)

Old story - E-Stat 12:03:31 03/29/22 (0)

musical instrument sound quality is a much more complex issue than audio sound quality - Analog Scott 14:50:38 03/27/22 (1)

I'll confirm that for sure - Story 03:44:20 03/30/22 (0)

I'll bet the instrument is/was a "Harman Shuffler" - mhardy6647 13:10:40 03/27/22 (1)

RE: I'll bet the instrument is/was a "Harman Shuffler" - Analog Scott 13:58:28 03/27/22 (0)

Slightly OT yet pertinent question... - musetap 11:25:49 03/27/22 (11)

RE: Slightly OT yet pertinent question... - Analog Scott 13:57:12 03/27/22 (8)

Funny thing though - Analog Scott 17:37:00 03/27/22 (6)

RE: Funny thing though - Story 04:41:10 03/28/22 (5)

RE: Funny thing though - Analog Scott 05:50:21 03/28/22 (4)

RE: Funny thing though - Story 06:26:23 03/28/22 (3)

RE: Funny thing though - Analog Scott 06:38:21 03/28/22 (2)

RE: Funny thing though - Tre' 07:30:18 03/31/22 (0)

RE: Funny thing though - Story 10:06:39 03/28/22 (0)

RE: Slightly OT yet pertinent question... - musetap 16:47:44 03/27/22 (0)

he may mean harman/kardon (nt) - mhardy6647 13:14:34 03/27/22 (1)

RE: he may mean harman/kardon (nt) - Analog Scott 14:00:07 03/27/22 (0)

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RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - Pat D 03/28/2213:39:11 03/28/22 (16)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - RGA 18:35:14 03/28/22 (14)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - geoffkait 08:25:15 03/29/22 (13)

RE: ASR forums, Toole and Olive. When science creates a religious cult - RGA 18:10:11 03/29/22 (12)

A perfect test - geoffkait 20:54:26 03/29/22 (0)

hold on there - Analog Scott 19:14:42 03/29/22 (10)

RE: hold on there - RGA 22:45:15 03/29/22 (8)

Students he didn't like - geoffkait 04:50:05 03/30/22 (6)

RE: Students he didn't like - RGA 07:44:02 04/1/22 (5)

RE: Students he didn't like - geoffkait 09:17:02 04/1/22 (4)

RE: Students he didn't like - RGA 00:31:44 04/2/22 (3)

RE: Students he didn't like - geoffkait 05:23:44 04/2/22 (2)

RE: Students he didn't like - RGA 19:31:49 04/2/22 (1)

RE: Students he didn't like - geoffkait 09:59:02 04/3/22 (0)

RE: hold on there - Analog Scott 04:38:09 03/30/22 (0)

Logical fallacy alert - geoffkait 20:57:49 03/29/22 (0)

I think that's a great question Pat - Analog Scott 14:16:59 03/28/22 (0)

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