What, there are no "accepted facts" ?

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Topic - Audiophile community...some light reading.... - slapshot 10:10:58 12/13/21 (197)

Community? - Goober58 20:39:37 12/15/21 (1)

RE: Community? - RV817 20:49:26 12/15/21 (0)

I love generalizations. - G Squared 11:21:15 12/14/21 (0)

I often say that I hate audiophiles. It is a poster child hobby for toxic fandom - Analog Scott 10:57:23 12/14/21 (145)

Or, said another way... - Ivan303 12:24:03 12/14/21 (131)

well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Analog Scott 12:49:47 12/14/21 (130)

RE: well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Todd Krieger 21:07:35 12/14/21 (120)

"People should research the findings..." - b.l.zeebub 09:14:02 12/15/21 (76)

RE: "People should research the findings..." - Todd Krieger 09:40:17 12/15/21 (75)

RE: "People should research the findings..." - b.l.zeebub 10:02:41 12/15/21 (74)

the 'FINDINGS' are only as good as the researchers - Story 10:22:24 12/15/21 (73)

really? - Analog Scott 10:30:09 12/15/21 (72)

RE: really? - Todd Krieger 11:48:15 12/15/21 (62)

what science is - Analog Scott 11:52:45 12/15/21 (61)

Evidence is not (rpt not) proof - geoffkait 12:49:34 12/15/21 (60)

RE: Evidence is proof - b.l.zeebub 13:50:28 12/16/21 (59)

RE: Evidence is proof - Todd Krieger 04:33:06 12/18/21 (3)

You don't have to prove anything if you don't want to - Analog Scott 08:27:35 12/18/21 (1)

That's mighty decent of ya - geoffkait 04:45:15 12/19/21 (0)

The UFO conundrum - geoffkait 06:27:36 12/18/21 (0)

that is the scientific standard in psychoacoustics - Analog Scott 18:08:09 12/16/21 (53)

a good manufacturer or company - Story 05:17:52 12/18/21 (0)

No It Isn't........ - Todd Krieger 04:53:43 12/18/21 (47)

I have bad news for you - Analog Scott 08:41:12 12/18/21 (46)

RE: I have bad news for you - Todd Krieger 19:33:38 12/18/21 (3)

RE: I have bad news for you - Analog Scott 20:52:49 12/18/21 (2)

RE: I have bad news for you - Todd Krieger 01:31:09 12/19/21 (1)

RE: I have bad news for you - Analog Scott 06:50:04 12/19/21 (0)

He looks like a scientist, he talks like a scientist, but...- - geoffkait 10:27:43 12/18/21 (41)

what are your qualifications as a scientist? - Story 11:51:01 12/18/21 (36)

I have at least a GED, which is already ahead of you. - geoffkait 15:44:29 12/18/21 (9)

ask a straight up question and what do you get? - Story 19:00:47 12/18/21 (1)

Straight up troll is more like it, dude. Nt - geoffkait 04:55:11 12/19/21 (0)

RE: I have at least a GED, which is already ahead of you. - RV817 17:58:18 12/18/21 (0)

High school drop out who passed a basic test. You set such a high bar. - Analog Scott 15:54:50 12/18/21 (5)

You've officially bottomed out again. Is your mom helping with your comebacks? Nt - geoffkait 17:47:27 12/18/21 (4)

My mom passed away nt - Analog Scott 18:05:57 12/18/21 (3)

How insensitive of me. Maybe you should take a time out. Nt - geoffkait 04:57:11 12/19/21 (0)

Oh Man...... - Todd Krieger 01:48:29 12/19/21 (1)

RE: Oh Man...... - Analog Scott 06:53:15 12/19/21 (0)

RE: what are your qualifications as a scientist? - RV817 12:16:43 12/18/21 (25)

I'm impressed ! - Story 13:07:28 12/18/21 (24)

Proving once again, speaking of proof - geoffkait 15:27:21 12/18/21 (23)

no wonder you failed math - Story 18:55:19 12/18/21 (22)

RE: no wonder you failed math - geoffkait 05:03:48 12/19/21 (21)

" Knowledge can be defined by " - Story 06:16:41 12/19/21 (20)

Snooze alert! Zzzzzzzz - geoffkait 07:56:30 12/19/21 (19)

RE: Snooze alert! Zzzzzzzz - RV817 10:17:06 12/19/21 (16)

His posts are like litter/graffiti/spam - Analog Scott 10:41:15 12/19/21 (15)

RE: His posts are like litter/graffiti/spam - RV817 11:27:41 12/19/21 (8)

Hawking - geoffkait 11:31:05 12/19/21 (7)

RE: Hawking - RV817 12:01:24 12/19/21 (6)

How would I know? - geoffkait 12:21:21 12/19/21 (5)

RE: How would I know? - RV817 12:34:24 12/19/21 (4)

it's a shame you, others, and myself have to waste time - Story 13:31:29 12/19/21 (2)

Playing injured - geoffkait 14:18:32 12/19/21 (1)

RE: Playing injured - RV817 14:23:11 12/19/21 (0)

Keep swinging, Scooter - geoffkait 13:24:13 12/19/21 (0)

My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - geoffkait 11:27:11 12/19/21 (5)

RE: My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - RV817 11:47:28 12/19/21 (4)

RE: My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - geoffkait 12:28:06 12/19/21 (3)

RE: My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - RV817 12:45:57 12/19/21 (2)

Sometimes it's better if you don't respond. - geoffkait 13:38:54 12/19/21 (1)

RE: Sometimes it's better if you don't respond. - RV817 14:12:23 12/19/21 (0)

" walked up peed on your leg " from the man who speaks from "experience" - Story 08:50:29 12/19/21 (1)

Story Diagnosis: cra-cra in the cra-nium. - geoffkait 09:51:02 12/19/21 (0)

RE: He looks like a scientist, he talks like a scientist, but...- - RV817 11:32:36 12/18/21 (1)

RE: He looks like a scientist, he talks like a scientist, but...- - geoffkait 13:30:08 12/18/21 (0)

A good read "ripoff report" - Analog Scott 11:19:23 12/18/21 (1)

Matt was a lot like you - geoffkait 13:25:28 12/18/21 (0)

Logic error - geoffkait 04:20:38 12/17/21 (3)

RE: Logic error - b.l.zeebub 09:01:14 12/18/21 (2)

"Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable." - geoffkait 13:39:28 12/18/21 (0)

It comes from a creationist like mind set - Analog Scott 10:11:02 12/18/21 (0)

The Amazing Randi lives! Nt - geoffkait 14:26:50 12/16/21 (0)

RE: really? - Story 10:55:59 12/15/21 (8)

as a believer in science - Analog Scott 11:08:35 12/15/21 (7)

Logic faux pas alert!! - geoffkait 12:11:53 12/15/21 (1)

not bad at all! I like your answer! - Story 12:16:18 12/15/21 (0)

RE: as a believer in science - Todd Krieger 12:01:36 12/15/21 (4)

let me present... - Analog Scott 12:12:26 12/15/21 (3)

Are hearing tests scientific evidence? Or are they anecdotal? Nt - geoffkait 12:28:49 12/15/21 (2)

depends on the tests - Analog Scott 12:58:41 12/15/21 (1)

Oh, evidence is only from tests that are done correctly? - geoffkait 13:53:28 12/15/21 (0)

RE: well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Analog Scott 21:51:57 12/14/21 (42)

RE: well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Todd Krieger 22:12:15 12/14/21 (41)

science denial is wide spread - Analog Scott 22:28:03 12/14/21 (40)

falsification - Story 02:53:36 12/15/21 (22)

Only "one country" alone won't help, but only two together certainly can. - peppy m. 08:42:19 12/15/21 (3)

what's one big country? - Story 09:25:44 12/15/21 (2)

Two big countries are also the two biggest polluters, right ? - peppy m. 09:34:59 12/15/21 (1)

I'm not talking population density - Story 09:47:11 12/15/21 (0)

Have you looked at the actual science on global warming? - Analog Scott 06:19:02 12/15/21 (12)

Science works when it isn't politicized.... - Rod M 09:09:54 12/15/21 (6)

RE: Science works when it isn't politicized.... - b.l.zeebub 10:11:30 12/15/21 (0)

Have you looked at the actual science? - Analog Scott 09:52:18 12/15/21 (4)

Yes.... - Rod M 11:23:24 12/15/21 (3)

That seemslike a different tune than the one I responded to - Analog Scott 11:55:20 12/15/21 (2)

there's not much we can do about it in the short term - Story 12:13:27 12/15/21 (1)

"what if" - Analog Scott 13:06:56 12/15/21 (0)

if you read it again - Story 08:37:58 12/15/21 (4)

i got that the first time - Analog Scott 10:22:06 12/15/21 (3)

the 21st is young - Story 10:49:18 12/15/21 (2)

I'm not going to argue politics - Analog Scott 11:00:23 12/15/21 (1)

I agree - Story 11:16:52 12/15/21 (0)

That is incorrect - geoffkait 05:07:26 12/15/21 (4)

The U.S. is the largest cumulative polluter - Story 08:36:26 12/15/21 (3)

RE: The U.S. is the largest cumulative polluter - Todd Krieger 12:16:06 12/15/21 (1)

yea, it's a biggee - Story 12:20:09 12/15/21 (0)

QAnon is alive and well right here. Good luck with all of that! - geoffkait 09:09:44 12/15/21 (0)

You Can't Have It Both Ways....... - Todd Krieger 23:40:49 12/14/21 (16)

RE: You Can't Have It Both Ways....... - Analog Scott 05:46:30 12/15/21 (15)

The Misuse of Science.......... - Todd Krieger 08:46:46 12/15/21 (14)

RE: The Misuse of Science.......... - Analog Scott 10:14:46 12/15/21 (2)

RE: The Misuse of Science.......... - Todd Krieger 11:51:15 12/15/21 (1)

And you blew my questions off - Analog Scott 13:57:22 12/15/21 (0)

Short answer - geoffkait 09:38:23 12/15/21 (10)

another Trump dumper you are - Story 11:51:57 12/15/21 (2)

Let's take a look at New Jersey, shall we? - geoffkait 13:28:44 12/15/21 (1)

I don't - Story 13:37:33 12/15/21 (0)

RE: Short answer - Inmate51 11:48:55 12/15/21 (4)

I didn't make a generalization, try to keep up with the discussion. - geoffkait 13:23:20 12/15/21 (3)

covid is not smarter than man - Story 13:32:20 12/15/21 (2)

We don't learn - geoffkait 14:49:03 12/15/21 (0)

It's amazing how many people were out smarted by such a simple organism - Analog Scott 14:10:55 12/15/21 (0)

RE: Short answer - Todd Krieger 11:45:06 12/15/21 (1)

Covid is smarter than man - geoffkait 13:19:32 12/15/21 (0)

The problem with scientific evidence - geoffkait 16:59:57 12/14/21 (7)

If scientific evidence is strong there is no problem... - peppy m. 08:47:21 12/15/21 (6)

"Accepted facts" - Thats gold, Jerry, gold!! You've been working on your stand-up. - geoffkait 09:23:14 12/15/21 (5)

What, there are no "accepted facts" ? - peppy m. 12/15/2109:47:09 12/15/21 (4)

You must know some lumberjacks who give you facts. Nt - geoffkait 09:59:42 12/15/21 (3)

Some lumberjacks do provide evidence that lumber exists, I think.. (nt - peppy m. 12:01:48 12/15/21 (2)

Yes, but do they know how electricity works? - geoffkait 15:14:47 12/15/21 (1)

What some lumberjacks don't know about electricity might make them smarter. - peppy m. 15:51:44 12/15/21 (0)

Appeal to Authority - geoffkait 15:31:25 12/14/21 (0)

You Sound Bitter......... - Todd Krieger 12:18:09 12/14/21 (11)

It's not the first time - E-Stat 16:44:58 12/14/21 (5)

Probably won't be the last time either - Analog Scott 17:12:04 12/14/21 (4)

Yet... here you be... right in the thick of them... - musetap 20:41:51 12/14/21 (1)

"Maybe it's just (or only) audiophiles that post on AA?" - Analog Scott 21:02:47 12/14/21 (0)

Krieger was correct -nt - E-Stat 17:25:34 12/14/21 (1)

Hilarious. Thank you for proving my point - Analog Scott 18:12:10 12/14/21 (0)

that may be how you see it - Analog Scott 12:42:06 12/14/21 (4)

"perhaps "hate" is a bit of a strong word" ...a "bit"? - chocolate_lover 14:08:41 12/14/21 (3)

I suppose so - Analog Scott 14:25:32 12/14/21 (2)

RE: I suppose so - chocolate_lover 17:29:00 12/14/21 (1)

Sometimes when jokes hit home - Analog Scott 18:16:56 12/14/21 (0)

But you're toxic. Even this post of yours is toxic. Hel-loo! Nt - geoffkait 12:00:19 12/14/21 (0)

If that was posted here it would go to Whiners Road ASAP. Nt - geoffkait 06:18:54 12/14/21 (1)

Agreed........ - Todd Krieger 12:21:02 12/14/21 (0)

Audiophile, community, industry are just words. They mean different things to different people. Nt - geoffkait 05:47:04 12/14/21 (0)

a little elaboration on one - Story 03:51:51 12/14/21 (0)

This Requires Dissection........ (Long) - Todd Krieger 00:45:14 12/14/21 (0)

The fact that the Audiofool Reviewer has just realized the problem is amusing... - Rod M 19:13:44 12/13/21 (4)

Why some folks - E-Stat 16:47:56 12/14/21 (0)

RE: "Let's make a New Year's resolution to do better and be nicer." - Ivan303 05:45:05 12/14/21 (0)

It's still a fun place Rod! nt - viridian 21:12:08 12/13/21 (0)

RE: The fact that the Audiofool Reviewer has just realized the problem is amusing... - E-Stat 20:15:54 12/13/21 (0)

While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - AbeCollins 18:44:18 12/13/21 (4)

Ad-Blocker......... - Todd Krieger 04:11:50 12/14/21 (0)

RE: While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - RV817 18:58:33 12/13/21 (2)

RE: While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - tweaker456 13:48:37 12/18/21 (1)

RE: While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - RV817 17:47:35 12/18/21 (0)

So I started a blog to ridicule a whole group, and yup, you can see from the reaction - nasty bunch ! nb - bjh 18:12:28 12/13/21 (0)

I find this to be tunnel vision. - viridian 16:26:53 12/13/21 (3)

Agreed - Jack G 06:22:46 12/14/21 (0)

RE: I find this to be tunnel vision. - Todd Krieger 04:19:31 12/14/21 (0)

RE: I find this to be tunnel vision. - Budrew 20:20:32 12/13/21 (0)

Having been a regular on AA years ago and visiting off and on for the last decade - gd 16:14:27 12/13/21 (0)

Agree with this observation - E-Stat 15:54:44 12/13/21 (8)

Come on guys.... - Rod M 20:40:53 12/13/21 (0)

RE: Agree with this observation - Davey 20:02:08 12/13/21 (6)

"I don't think you have a clue who's clueless or who isn't." - E-Stat 20:09:05 12/13/21 (5)

RE: "I don't think you have a clue who's clueless or who isn't." - Davey 20:11:11 12/13/21 (4)

Hilarious! - E-Stat 20:12:59 12/13/21 (3)

RE: Hilarious! - Davey 20:15:03 12/13/21 (2)

Pathetic - E-Stat 20:16:56 12/13/21 (1)

RE: Pathetic - Davey 20:25:10 12/13/21 (0)

RE: Audiophile community...some light reading.... - Tom Brennan 14:44:48 12/13/21 (4)

RE: Audiophile community...some light reading.... - kyle 10:40:03 12/14/21 (0)

RE: Audiophile community...some light reading.... - Todd Krieger 04:15:07 12/14/21 (0)

That's 'cause we don't have unions anymore. /n - Ivan303 15:40:19 12/13/21 (1)

RE: That's 'cause we don't have unions anymore. /n - Todd Krieger 04:12:49 12/14/21 (0)

Meh, go to Polish audio forum... - Wojciech 14:09:14 12/13/21 (0)

Which audiophile community? Didn't see AA mentioned, so screw him and... - musetap 13:57:53 12/13/21 (0)

Audiophiles are "arrogant, narcissistic, and generally hostile" ? (nt - peppy m. 13:28:01 12/13/21 (4)

Some um mem are, some um mem ain't.... - Ivan303 15:43:19 12/13/21 (3)

Only idiotic a-holes who can't hear say we're "arrogant, narcissistic, and hostile" ! (nt - peppy m. 15:54:27 12/13/21 (2)

Insecurity...- - E-Stat 16:47:41 12/13/21 (1)

The simplistic measurement crowd - Analog Scott 15:00:06 12/14/21 (0)

If you think that's bad spend a little time on a model railroad forum. Nt - geoffkait 10:52:51 12/13/21 (5)

Are you a model railroad fan, Geoff? That's way cool. Nt - viridian 11:44:38 12/13/21 (4)

I would be if there was any drama in it. Alas, I was only joking. Nt - geoffkait 14:04:58 12/13/21 (3)

Once again, I'm clueless. nt - viridian 14:20:05 12/13/21 (2)

I should have put a smiley face after my post, my bad. :-) Nt - geoffkait 16:01:13 12/13/21 (1)

Sign post for the clueless like me? LOL. nt - viridian 16:18:04 12/13/21 (0)

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What, there are no "accepted facts" ? - peppy m. 12/15/2109:47:09 12/15/21 (4)

You must know some lumberjacks who give you facts. Nt - geoffkait 09:59:42 12/15/21 (3)

Some lumberjacks do provide evidence that lumber exists, I think.. (nt - peppy m. 12:01:48 12/15/21 (2)

Yes, but do they know how electricity works? - geoffkait 15:14:47 12/15/21 (1)

What some lumberjacks don't know about electricity might make them smarter. - peppy m. 15:51:44 12/15/21 (0)

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