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In Reply to: The problem with scientific evidence posted by geoffkait on December 14, 2021 at 16:59:57:
If it's too weak to establish "accepted facts", then yes - there is a problem.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Audiophile community...some light reading.... - slapshot 10:10:58 12/13/21 (197)
- Community? - Goober58 20:39:37 12/15/21 (1)
- RE: Community? - RV817 20:49:26 12/15/21 (0)
- I love generalizations. - G Squared 11:21:15 12/14/21 (0)
- I often say that I hate audiophiles. It is a poster child hobby for toxic fandom - Analog Scott 10:57:23 12/14/21 (145)
- Or, said another way... - Ivan303 12:24:03 12/14/21 (131)
- well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Analog Scott 12:49:47 12/14/21 (130)
- RE: well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Todd Krieger 21:07:35 12/14/21 (120)
- "People should research the findings..." - b.l.zeebub 09:14:02 12/15/21 (76)
- RE: "People should research the findings..." - Todd Krieger 09:40:17 12/15/21 (75)
- RE: "People should research the findings..." - b.l.zeebub 10:02:41 12/15/21 (74)
- the 'FINDINGS' are only as good as the researchers - Story 10:22:24 12/15/21 (73)
- really? - Analog Scott 10:30:09 12/15/21 (72)
- RE: really? - Todd Krieger 11:48:15 12/15/21 (62)
- what science is - Analog Scott 11:52:45 12/15/21 (61)
- Evidence is not (rpt not) proof - geoffkait 12:49:34 12/15/21 (60)
- RE: Evidence is proof - b.l.zeebub 13:50:28 12/16/21 (59)
- RE: Evidence is proof - Todd Krieger 04:33:06 12/18/21 (3)
- You don't have to prove anything if you don't want to - Analog Scott 08:27:35 12/18/21 (1)
- That's mighty decent of ya - geoffkait 04:45:15 12/19/21 (0)
- The UFO conundrum - geoffkait 06:27:36 12/18/21 (0)
- that is the scientific standard in psychoacoustics - Analog Scott 18:08:09 12/16/21 (53)
- a good manufacturer or company - Story 05:17:52 12/18/21 (0)
- No It Isn't........ - Todd Krieger 04:53:43 12/18/21 (47)
- I have bad news for you - Analog Scott 08:41:12 12/18/21 (46)
- RE: I have bad news for you - Todd Krieger 19:33:38 12/18/21 (3)
- RE: I have bad news for you - Analog Scott 20:52:49 12/18/21 (2)
- RE: I have bad news for you - Todd Krieger 01:31:09 12/19/21 (1)
- RE: I have bad news for you - Analog Scott 06:50:04 12/19/21 (0)
- He looks like a scientist, he talks like a scientist, but...- - geoffkait 10:27:43 12/18/21 (41)
- what are your qualifications as a scientist? - Story 11:51:01 12/18/21 (36)
- I have at least a GED, which is already ahead of you. - geoffkait 15:44:29 12/18/21 (9)
- ask a straight up question and what do you get? - Story 19:00:47 12/18/21 (1)
- Straight up troll is more like it, dude. Nt - geoffkait 04:55:11 12/19/21 (0)
- RE: I have at least a GED, which is already ahead of you. - RV817 17:58:18 12/18/21 (0)
- High school drop out who passed a basic test. You set such a high bar. - Analog Scott 15:54:50 12/18/21 (5)
- You've officially bottomed out again. Is your mom helping with your comebacks? Nt - geoffkait 17:47:27 12/18/21 (4)
- My mom passed away nt - Analog Scott 18:05:57 12/18/21 (3)
- How insensitive of me. Maybe you should take a time out. Nt - geoffkait 04:57:11 12/19/21 (0)
- Oh Man...... - Todd Krieger 01:48:29 12/19/21 (1)
- RE: Oh Man...... - Analog Scott 06:53:15 12/19/21 (0)
- RE: what are your qualifications as a scientist? - RV817 12:16:43 12/18/21 (25)
- I'm impressed ! - Story 13:07:28 12/18/21 (24)
- Proving once again, speaking of proof - geoffkait 15:27:21 12/18/21 (23)
- no wonder you failed math - Story 18:55:19 12/18/21 (22)
- RE: no wonder you failed math - geoffkait 05:03:48 12/19/21 (21)
- " Knowledge can be defined by " - Story 06:16:41 12/19/21 (20)
- Snooze alert! Zzzzzzzz - geoffkait 07:56:30 12/19/21 (19)
- RE: Snooze alert! Zzzzzzzz - RV817 10:17:06 12/19/21 (16)
- His posts are like litter/graffiti/spam - Analog Scott 10:41:15 12/19/21 (15)
- RE: His posts are like litter/graffiti/spam - RV817 11:27:41 12/19/21 (8)
- Hawking - geoffkait 11:31:05 12/19/21 (7)
- RE: Hawking - RV817 12:01:24 12/19/21 (6)
- How would I know? - geoffkait 12:21:21 12/19/21 (5)
- RE: How would I know? - RV817 12:34:24 12/19/21 (4)
- it's a shame you, others, and myself have to waste time - Story 13:31:29 12/19/21 (2)
- Playing injured - geoffkait 14:18:32 12/19/21 (1)
- RE: Playing injured - RV817 14:23:11 12/19/21 (0)
- Keep swinging, Scooter - geoffkait 13:24:13 12/19/21 (0)
- My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - geoffkait 11:27:11 12/19/21 (5)
- RE: My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - RV817 11:47:28 12/19/21 (4)
- RE: My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - geoffkait 12:28:06 12/19/21 (3)
- RE: My nose gets itchy when you guys talk behind my back. - RV817 12:45:57 12/19/21 (2)
- Sometimes it's better if you don't respond. - geoffkait 13:38:54 12/19/21 (1)
- RE: Sometimes it's better if you don't respond. - RV817 14:12:23 12/19/21 (0)
- " walked up peed on your leg " from the man who speaks from "experience" - Story 08:50:29 12/19/21 (1)
- Story Diagnosis: cra-cra in the cra-nium. - geoffkait 09:51:02 12/19/21 (0)
- RE: He looks like a scientist, he talks like a scientist, but...- - RV817 11:32:36 12/18/21 (1)
- RE: He looks like a scientist, he talks like a scientist, but...- - geoffkait 13:30:08 12/18/21 (0)
- A good read "ripoff report" - Analog Scott 11:19:23 12/18/21 (1)
- Matt was a lot like you - geoffkait 13:25:28 12/18/21 (0)
- Logic error - geoffkait 04:20:38 12/17/21 (3)
- RE: Logic error - b.l.zeebub 09:01:14 12/18/21 (2)
- "Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable." - geoffkait 13:39:28 12/18/21 (0)
- It comes from a creationist like mind set - Analog Scott 10:11:02 12/18/21 (0)
- The Amazing Randi lives! Nt - geoffkait 14:26:50 12/16/21 (0)
- RE: really? - Story 10:55:59 12/15/21 (8)
- as a believer in science - Analog Scott 11:08:35 12/15/21 (7)
- Logic faux pas alert!! - geoffkait 12:11:53 12/15/21 (1)
- not bad at all! I like your answer! - Story 12:16:18 12/15/21 (0)
- RE: as a believer in science - Todd Krieger 12:01:36 12/15/21 (4)
- let me present... - Analog Scott 12:12:26 12/15/21 (3)
- Are hearing tests scientific evidence? Or are they anecdotal? Nt - geoffkait 12:28:49 12/15/21 (2)
- depends on the tests - Analog Scott 12:58:41 12/15/21 (1)
- Oh, evidence is only from tests that are done correctly? - geoffkait 13:53:28 12/15/21 (0)
- RE: well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Analog Scott 21:51:57 12/14/21 (42)
- RE: well, no....not what I am trying to say with my comments on authorities and experts - Todd Krieger 22:12:15 12/14/21 (41)
- science denial is wide spread - Analog Scott 22:28:03 12/14/21 (40)
- falsification - Story 02:53:36 12/15/21 (22)
- Only "one country" alone won't help, but only two together certainly can. - peppy m. 08:42:19 12/15/21 (3)
- what's one big country? - Story 09:25:44 12/15/21 (2)
- Two big countries are also the two biggest polluters, right ? - peppy m. 09:34:59 12/15/21 (1)
- I'm not talking population density - Story 09:47:11 12/15/21 (0)
- Have you looked at the actual science on global warming? - Analog Scott 06:19:02 12/15/21 (12)
- Science works when it isn't politicized.... - Rod M 09:09:54 12/15/21 (6)
- RE: Science works when it isn't politicized.... - b.l.zeebub 10:11:30 12/15/21 (0)
- Have you looked at the actual science? - Analog Scott 09:52:18 12/15/21 (4)
- Yes.... - Rod M 11:23:24 12/15/21 (3)
- That seemslike a different tune than the one I responded to - Analog Scott 11:55:20 12/15/21 (2)
- there's not much we can do about it in the short term - Story 12:13:27 12/15/21 (1)
- "what if" - Analog Scott 13:06:56 12/15/21 (0)
- if you read it again - Story 08:37:58 12/15/21 (4)
- i got that the first time - Analog Scott 10:22:06 12/15/21 (3)
- the 21st is young - Story 10:49:18 12/15/21 (2)
- I'm not going to argue politics - Analog Scott 11:00:23 12/15/21 (1)
- I agree - Story 11:16:52 12/15/21 (0)
- That is incorrect - geoffkait 05:07:26 12/15/21 (4)
- The U.S. is the largest cumulative polluter - Story 08:36:26 12/15/21 (3)
- RE: The U.S. is the largest cumulative polluter - Todd Krieger 12:16:06 12/15/21 (1)
- yea, it's a biggee - Story 12:20:09 12/15/21 (0)
- QAnon is alive and well right here. Good luck with all of that! - geoffkait 09:09:44 12/15/21 (0)
- You Can't Have It Both Ways....... - Todd Krieger 23:40:49 12/14/21 (16)
- RE: You Can't Have It Both Ways....... - Analog Scott 05:46:30 12/15/21 (15)
- The Misuse of Science.......... - Todd Krieger 08:46:46 12/15/21 (14)
- RE: The Misuse of Science.......... - Analog Scott 10:14:46 12/15/21 (2)
- RE: The Misuse of Science.......... - Todd Krieger 11:51:15 12/15/21 (1)
- And you blew my questions off - Analog Scott 13:57:22 12/15/21 (0)
- Short answer - geoffkait 09:38:23 12/15/21 (10)
- another Trump dumper you are - Story 11:51:57 12/15/21 (2)
- Let's take a look at New Jersey, shall we? - geoffkait 13:28:44 12/15/21 (1)
- I don't - Story 13:37:33 12/15/21 (0)
- RE: Short answer - Inmate51 11:48:55 12/15/21 (4)
- I didn't make a generalization, try to keep up with the discussion. - geoffkait 13:23:20 12/15/21 (3)
- covid is not smarter than man - Story 13:32:20 12/15/21 (2)
- We don't learn - geoffkait 14:49:03 12/15/21 (0)
- It's amazing how many people were out smarted by such a simple organism - Analog Scott 14:10:55 12/15/21 (0)
- RE: Short answer - Todd Krieger 11:45:06 12/15/21 (1)
- Covid is smarter than man - geoffkait 13:19:32 12/15/21 (0)
- The problem with scientific evidence - geoffkait 16:59:57 12/14/21 (7)
- If scientific evidence is strong there is no problem... - peppy m. 12/15/2108:47:21 12/15/21 (6)
- "Accepted facts" - Thats gold, Jerry, gold!! You've been working on your stand-up. - geoffkait 09:23:14 12/15/21 (5)
- What, there are no "accepted facts" ? - peppy m. 09:47:09 12/15/21 (4)
- You must know some lumberjacks who give you facts. Nt - geoffkait 09:59:42 12/15/21 (3)
- Some lumberjacks do provide evidence that lumber exists, I think.. (nt - peppy m. 12:01:48 12/15/21 (2)
- Yes, but do they know how electricity works? - geoffkait 15:14:47 12/15/21 (1)
- What some lumberjacks don't know about electricity might make them smarter. - peppy m. 15:51:44 12/15/21 (0)
- Appeal to Authority - geoffkait 15:31:25 12/14/21 (0)
- You Sound Bitter......... - Todd Krieger 12:18:09 12/14/21 (11)
- It's not the first time - E-Stat 16:44:58 12/14/21 (5)
- Probably won't be the last time either - Analog Scott 17:12:04 12/14/21 (4)
- Yet... here you be... right in the thick of them... - musetap 20:41:51 12/14/21 (1)
- "Maybe it's just (or only) audiophiles that post on AA?" - Analog Scott 21:02:47 12/14/21 (0)
- Krieger was correct -nt - E-Stat 17:25:34 12/14/21 (1)
- Hilarious. Thank you for proving my point - Analog Scott 18:12:10 12/14/21 (0)
- that may be how you see it - Analog Scott 12:42:06 12/14/21 (4)
- "perhaps "hate" is a bit of a strong word" ...a "bit"? - chocolate_lover 14:08:41 12/14/21 (3)
- I suppose so - Analog Scott 14:25:32 12/14/21 (2)
- RE: I suppose so - chocolate_lover 17:29:00 12/14/21 (1)
- Sometimes when jokes hit home - Analog Scott 18:16:56 12/14/21 (0)
- But you're toxic. Even this post of yours is toxic. Hel-loo! Nt - geoffkait 12:00:19 12/14/21 (0)
- If that was posted here it would go to Whiners Road ASAP. Nt - geoffkait 06:18:54 12/14/21 (1)
- Agreed........ - Todd Krieger 12:21:02 12/14/21 (0)
- Audiophile, community, industry are just words. They mean different things to different people. Nt - geoffkait 05:47:04 12/14/21 (0)
- a little elaboration on one - Story 03:51:51 12/14/21 (0)
- This Requires Dissection........ (Long) - Todd Krieger 00:45:14 12/14/21 (0)
- The fact that the Audiofool Reviewer has just realized the problem is amusing... - Rod M 19:13:44 12/13/21 (4)
- Why some folks - E-Stat 16:47:56 12/14/21 (0)
- RE: "Let's make a New Year's resolution to do better and be nicer." - Ivan303 05:45:05 12/14/21 (0)
- It's still a fun place Rod! nt - viridian 21:12:08 12/13/21 (0)
- RE: The fact that the Audiofool Reviewer has just realized the problem is amusing... - E-Stat 20:15:54 12/13/21 (0)
- While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - AbeCollins 18:44:18 12/13/21 (4)
- Ad-Blocker......... - Todd Krieger 04:11:50 12/14/21 (0)
- RE: While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - RV817 18:58:33 12/13/21 (2)
- RE: While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - tweaker456 13:48:37 12/18/21 (1)
- RE: While reading the article I found this Ad appropriately funny! - RV817 17:47:35 12/18/21 (0)
- So I started a blog to ridicule a whole group, and yup, you can see from the reaction - nasty bunch ! nb - bjh 18:12:28 12/13/21 (0)
- I find this to be tunnel vision. - viridian 16:26:53 12/13/21 (3)
- Agreed - Jack G 06:22:46 12/14/21 (0)
- RE: I find this to be tunnel vision. - Todd Krieger 04:19:31 12/14/21 (0)
- RE: I find this to be tunnel vision. - Budrew 20:20:32 12/13/21 (0)
- Having been a regular on AA years ago and visiting off and on for the last decade - gd 16:14:27 12/13/21 (0)
- Agree with this observation - E-Stat 15:54:44 12/13/21 (8)
- Come on guys.... - Rod M 20:40:53 12/13/21 (0)
- RE: Agree with this observation - Davey 20:02:08 12/13/21 (6)
- "I don't think you have a clue who's clueless or who isn't." - E-Stat 20:09:05 12/13/21 (5)
- RE: "I don't think you have a clue who's clueless or who isn't." - Davey 20:11:11 12/13/21 (4)
- Hilarious! - E-Stat 20:12:59 12/13/21 (3)
- RE: Hilarious! - Davey 20:15:03 12/13/21 (2)
- Pathetic - E-Stat 20:16:56 12/13/21 (1)
- RE: Pathetic - Davey 20:25:10 12/13/21 (0)
- RE: Audiophile community...some light reading.... - Tom Brennan 14:44:48 12/13/21 (4)
- RE: Audiophile community...some light reading.... - kyle 10:40:03 12/14/21 (0)
- RE: Audiophile community...some light reading.... - Todd Krieger 04:15:07 12/14/21 (0)
- That's 'cause we don't have unions anymore. /n - Ivan303 15:40:19 12/13/21 (1)
- RE: That's 'cause we don't have unions anymore. /n - Todd Krieger 04:12:49 12/14/21 (0)
- Meh, go to Polish audio forum... - Wojciech 14:09:14 12/13/21 (0)
- Which audiophile community? Didn't see AA mentioned, so screw him and... - musetap 13:57:53 12/13/21 (0)
- Audiophiles are "arrogant, narcissistic, and generally hostile" ? (nt - peppy m. 13:28:01 12/13/21 (4)
- Some um mem are, some um mem ain't.... - Ivan303 15:43:19 12/13/21 (3)
- Only idiotic a-holes who can't hear say we're "arrogant, narcissistic, and hostile" ! (nt - peppy m. 15:54:27 12/13/21 (2)
- Insecurity...- - E-Stat 16:47:41 12/13/21 (1)
- The simplistic measurement crowd - Analog Scott 15:00:06 12/14/21 (0)
- If you think that's bad spend a little time on a model railroad forum. Nt - geoffkait 10:52:51 12/13/21 (5)
- Are you a model railroad fan, Geoff? That's way cool. Nt - viridian 11:44:38 12/13/21 (4)
- I would be if there was any drama in it. Alas, I was only joking. Nt - geoffkait 14:04:58 12/13/21 (3)
- Once again, I'm clueless. nt - viridian 14:20:05 12/13/21 (2)
- I should have put a smiley face after my post, my bad. :-) Nt - geoffkait 16:01:13 12/13/21 (1)
- Sign post for the clueless like me? LOL. nt - viridian 16:18:04 12/13/21 (0)
Follow Ups
- If scientific evidence is strong there is no problem... - peppy m. 12/15/2108:47:21 12/15/21 (6)
- "Accepted facts" - Thats gold, Jerry, gold!! You've been working on your stand-up. - geoffkait 09:23:14 12/15/21 (5)
- What, there are no "accepted facts" ? - peppy m. 09:47:09 12/15/21 (4)
- You must know some lumberjacks who give you facts. Nt - geoffkait 09:59:42 12/15/21 (3)
- Some lumberjacks do provide evidence that lumber exists, I think.. (nt - peppy m. 12:01:48 12/15/21 (2)
- Yes, but do they know how electricity works? - geoffkait 15:14:47 12/15/21 (1)
- What some lumberjacks don't know about electricity might make them smarter. - peppy m. 15:51:44 12/15/21 (0)