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Topic - One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - theaudiohobby 09:24:46 07/7/10 (102)

RE: Hallelujiah, another apostate from the evangelical crowd...although my tone controls reside at 0 - LongPlay 19:11:14 07/11/10 (0)

It's about purity of tone and transparency - barryb 16:04:33 07/9/10 (0)

Better to make loudspeaker adjustable - Steyr 05:55:39 07/9/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - soulfood 20:43:58 07/8/10 (0)

Tone controls were too generic to accomplish anything - keith_d 11:43:37 07/8/10 (1)

I agree, I don't miss them. - richardl 11:31:46 07/12/10 (0)

No tone controls here... - Bigromano 09:16:24 07/8/10 (0)

Tone controls? I wouldn't be without them. - rick_m 08:55:12 07/8/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - sown gi 08:29:43 07/8/10 (1)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Tony Lauck 13:26:17 07/8/10 (0)

Having used tone controls and equalizers in the past... - Don Till 08:09:08 07/8/10 (1)

Even in a post that makes sense in the beginning,... - carcass93 10:36:11 07/8/10 (0)

When I had tone controls back in the 60s/70s, - Dave Pogue 06:56:00 07/8/10 (1)

Interesting.... - JimK 11:44:03 07/8/10 (0)

Your speakers may be more adjustable than you think - Duke 23:09:28 07/7/10 (3)

RE: Your speakers may be more adjustable than you think - theaudiohobby 03:30:57 07/8/10 (2)

RE: Your speakers may be more adjustable than you think - Duke 08:32:10 07/8/10 (1)

RE: thanks- nt - theaudiohobby 09:30:09 07/8/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Todd Krieger 22:34:22 07/7/10 (7)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Tony Lauck 13:06:14 07/8/10 (6)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Todd Krieger 20:55:52 07/8/10 (4)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Tony Lauck 07:42:16 07/9/10 (3)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Todd Krieger 21:48:17 07/9/10 (2)

A little quick to jump to conclusions? - Tony Lauck 08:04:30 07/10/10 (1)

Acknowledged.......... - Todd Krieger 20:09:21 07/10/10 (0)

Agreed - E-Stat 15:23:58 07/8/10 (0)

One of the many advantages of computer audio - Dawnrazor 22:27:22 07/7/10 (0)

I haven't had a tone control in my preamp for over 20 years ... - andyr 22:00:58 07/7/10 (0)

kind of miss my old SAE 1800 - wazoo 19:57:52 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - RackCrew 19:38:23 07/7/10 (0)

It was the mid-70s - Jim Smith 07/7/1019:26:52 07/7/10 (2)

Ironically, their first model the LNP-2 - E-Stat 11:24:00 07/8/10 (1)

RE: Ironically, their first model the LNP-2 - Jim Smith 14:04:05 07/8/10 (0)

it was the beginning of the end.. n/t - jdouglas51 19:02:30 07/7/10 (1)

RE: it was the beginning of the end.. n/t - john curl 12:37:24 07/8/10 (0)

The only ones I remember ever being useful were on my Quad 33. (nt) - jnr 16:37:40 07/7/10 (1)

Many pro speakers have useable controls... - abel mccain 19:23:09 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Ozzy 16:21:47 07/7/10 (2)

BUT-- what % of audiophiles have *proper rooms* NT - lancelot 17:38:17 07/7/10 (0)

Bunk! Room acoustics can't correct poorly recorded material. - Mr. Dick Hertz 17:14:00 07/7/10 (0)

DSP room correction is here...don't need no stinkin' tone controls...(nt) - mkuller 14:47:04 07/7/10 (13)

Agreed. - Kal Rubinson 05:54:54 07/8/10 (0)

RE: DSP room correction is here...don't need no stinkin' tone controls...(nt) - Todd Krieger 22:43:38 07/7/10 (4)

Digital Active Crossover is the way to go..... - Belgarchi 07:53:13 07/11/10 (0)

RE: Digital Active Crossover is the way to go..... - peterselby7@gmail.com 07:13:42 07/23/10 (0)

I'm opposed to it above the bass frequencies - keith_d 11:46:20 07/8/10 (1)

That is reasonably arguable. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 16:47:40 07/8/10 (0)

Oh boy. - Kal Rubinson 05:53:19 07/8/10 (0)

You don't change Room Correction for source material nt - Robert Hamel 17:23:27 07/7/10 (3)

True, but... - mkuller 18:18:18 07/7/10 (2)

RE: True, but... - Vic D 10:22:53 07/8/10 (1)

RE: True, but... - soulfood 16:50:58 07/8/10 (0)

RE: You are missing the point, both are forms of equalization - theaudiohobby 16:08:46 07/7/10 (2)

RE: You are missing the point, both are forms of equalization - josh358 12:10:44 07/8/10 (0)

You aren't looking in the right places. (NT) - Kal Rubinson 05:45:18 07/8/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - RGA 14:45:27 07/7/10 (1)

Consider - E-Stat 16:46:06 07/7/10 (0)

To understand why tone controls were once considered necessary . . . - Ray Moth 14:38:46 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Dman 13:35:41 07/7/10 (0)

My response is similar to Presto's - E-Stat 13:26:50 07/7/10 (0)

I like 'em ... - reelsmith. 12:54:52 07/7/10 (0)

When you stuff your speakers on the floor in the corner and under the table - Chris O 12:54:51 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Presto 12:53:43 07/7/10 (1)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - theaudiohobby 14:34:53 07/7/10 (0)

Without, we have a control system without controls. - free.ranger 12:45:42 07/7/10 (0)

the question is more directly framed - LousyTourist 12:37:30 07/7/10 (0)

Tone Control is Way too limited - Jon L 12:19:56 07/7/10 (2)

RE: Tone Control is Way too limited - theaudiohobby 12:29:19 07/7/10 (1)

Bad recordings - Jon L 10:59:29 07/8/10 (0)

I use them all the time to... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 12:10:26 07/7/10 (0)

No missteps. It's called "High End" for a reason. - carcass93 12:05:20 07/7/10 (2)

Is High end about signal fidelity... - gymwear5@hotmail.com 13:25:46 07/7/10 (1)

Here's my best shot: - carcass93 14:53:30 07/7/10 (0)

I specifically bought an amplifier that had tone controls on the mistaken assumption - Paully 12:01:53 07/7/10 (0)

Agree totally: tone controls are GOOD.(when defeat available) - Elizabeth 11:55:29 07/7/10 (7)

That's our beloved Crazy Lizzie: Nothing to contribute but the usual swill! n/t - hesson11 20:47:25 07/7/10 (1)

Pearls befors swine. NOT !! give 'em swill..... it's what they really want anyway... - Elizabeth 22:17:04 07/7/10 (0)

"The few who do not are idiots IMO" - nice. Well,... - carcass93 12:21:16 07/7/10 (4)

I think we all know who the REAL idiot is around here..... - Ozzy 16:29:55 07/7/10 (3)

Imagine tone controls on all THREE chained preamps - that's audiophile's dream! - carcass93 08:05:24 07/8/10 (0)

Personal insut? best to make general ones: fools who think it applies to them respond more often - Elizabeth 22:14:51 07/7/10 (1)

caught one already....... - Ozzy 06:41:51 07/8/10 (0)

Tone controls create distortion/NO tone controls implement distortion... - abel mccain 11:54:26 07/7/10 (0)

I don't - kavakidd 11:31:57 07/7/10 (0)

Tone controls fail - MylesJ 11:25:54 07/7/10 (0)

they're toys - mbnx01 11:25:48 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Palustris 11:12:32 07/7/10 (2)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - josh358 19:51:11 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Tony Lauck 13:33:52 07/7/10 (0)

The trouble with tone controls . . . - caspian@peak.org 10:55:08 07/7/10 (1)

RE: The trouble with tone controls . . . - pictureguy 12:55:43 07/7/10 (0)

I recently returned to using my ARC SP3A preamp... - musetap 10:44:52 07/7/10 (0)

I don't miss them - Norm 10:21:21 07/7/10 (1)

RE: I don't miss them - KnobSpinner 11:04:20 07/7/10 (0)

I agree make them defeatable, where's he mono switch?nt - Robert Hamel 10:18:30 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - Bob Neill 09:54:30 07/7/10 (4)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - theaudiohobby 10:05:48 07/7/10 (3)

In Computer Audio you can use digital noise shaping - ArdRi 10:36:39 07/7/10 (2)

You can do even more... - Tony Lauck 13:18:23 07/7/10 (0)

RE: In Computer Audio you can use digital noise shaping - theaudiohobby 12:08:32 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - josh358 09:42:41 07/7/10 (2)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - SgreenP@MSN.com 11:56:10 07/7/10 (0)

RE: One of the great missteps in domestic highend audio - theaudiohobby 10:07:57 07/7/10 (0)

Follow Ups

It was the mid-70s - Jim Smith 07/7/1019:26:52 07/7/10 (2)

Ironically, their first model the LNP-2 - E-Stat 11:24:00 07/8/10 (1)

RE: Ironically, their first model the LNP-2 - Jim Smith 14:04:05 07/8/10 (0)

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