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In Reply to: Absolutely true! posted by Sordidman on April 10, 2009 at 09:33:28:
Everyone save some money and fly to Denver for the R.M.A.F. While there vist a hundred rooms
and you will soon discover that there are at least one hundred different ideas on what is musical and hence good hi-fi.
Why would I trust anyone else's opinion of what they percieve as good sound based on what I experience in Denver each year? Why should anyone?
Here is a easy test of a good music system. If the sound you are hearing doesn't capture and hold your attention; if you don't find the music totally engaging and you look down and your foot isn't keeping time to the music, then the system is probably not that great.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - This hobby is NOT about saving money - Frihed89 00:25:43 04/9/09 (191)
- 165 hits - hifipaul 03:35:28 04/11/09 (0)
- As a hobby it's about meaningless passion, just like analog watches, old cars, etc. - keith_d 08:16:35 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: This hobby is NOT about saving money - palewin 06:31:14 04/10/09 (0)
- True, - mark111 15:25:54 04/9/09 (0)
- Wrong… - David Aiken 13:32:27 04/9/09 (0)
- It's not about saving money ...but that can be part of it ... - reelsmith. 10:03:50 04/9/09 (1)
- Exactly reel...................stuff your generalizations in a sack Fri! n/t - Awe-d-o-file 12:12:26 04/9/09 (0)
- It's not about anything except sound produced by electronics... - Abel McCain 10:01:12 04/9/09 (0)
- There's a big difference between the right component and the best deal - Don Till 08:16:06 04/9/09 (4)
- When I want something I don't rush out and get it I wait for a sale or - Teresa 17:52:21 04/9/09 (0)
- RE: There's a big difference between the right component and the best deal - Frank I 09:55:36 04/9/09 (2)
- RE: There's a big difference between the right component and the best deal - SgreenP@MSN.com 12:18:17 04/9/09 (1)
- RE: There's a big difference between the right component and the best deal - Frank I 13:06:07 04/9/09 (0)
- How about "saving money" by NOT buying expensive wires that do nothing & buying more music instead ? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:04:08 04/9/09 (113)
- How about turning in your audiophile badge & finding a different hobby. - gme109 17:42:02 04/11/09 (5)
- The hobby is collecting and listening to music, not "upgrading" wires, you silly boy - Richard BassNut Greene 07:51:58 04/13/09 (4)
- For you it's about shouting incorrect exaggerations -t - Sordidman 12:13:23 04/13/09 (0)
- It is about the music, & for some, including me, the equipment as well. - gme109 08:09:58 04/13/09 (2)
- 1dB is a subtle difference - Richard BassNut Greene 13:08:06 04/13/09 (1)
- Why not publish some real data then, instead of hiding behind hyperbole -t - Sordidman 13:21:22 04/13/09 (0)
- RE: How about "saving money" by NOT buying expensive wires that do nothing & buying more music instead ? - Bob Neill 18:31:00 04/9/09 (33)
- If you don't trust your ears, you have no business wasting time on audio" = wrong - Richard BassNut Greene 06:59:46 04/10/09 (17)
- I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse... - sherod 18:58:30 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: If you don't trust your ears, you have no business wasting time on audio" = wrong - finnman500@hotmail.com 11:48:30 04/10/09 (14)
- "Give a man enough lamp cord speaker wire and perhaps he will do the world a favor and hang himself." - Richard BassNut Greene 13:03:08 04/10/09 (13)
- RE: "Give a man enough lamp cord speaker wire and perhaps he will do the world a favor and hang himself." - finnman500@hotmail.com 16:35:55 04/10/09 (3)
- That's no joke, since it implies you'd like objective audiophiles to take their lamp cord and hang themselves - Richard BassNut Greene 07:55:43 04/13/09 (2)
- RE: That's no joke, since it implies you'd like objective audiophiles to take their lamp cord and hang themsel - finnman500@hotmail.com 12:27:25 04/14/09 (0)
- Perhaps like most everything else, you just have gotten it wrong? -t - Sordidman 12:14:31 04/13/09 (0)
- Is your selective quoting and subsequent hyperbolic deflections - Sordidman 13:57:02 04/10/09 (0)
- I forgot to add: A death threat is a nice thing to post on Good Friday (nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 13:56:53 04/10/09 (1)
- You hallucinating again? I never read any "death threat"... - sherod 19:01:15 04/10/09 (0)
- "posting hatred?" You're one to talk, or is it overexaggerate - Sordidman 13:33:38 04/10/09 (5)
- Your post is all about me? Don't you have anything to write about audio? - Richard BassNut Greene 13:54:46 04/10/09 (4)
- All about you? Center of the universe are you? - Sordidman 14:03:40 04/10/09 (3)
- Nothing to say about audio, as usual? (nt) - Richard BassNut Greene 07:48:59 04/13/09 (1)
- Look in the mirror, you're the one who's left the audio realm long ago -t - Sordidman 12:12:29 04/13/09 (0)
- As Clint Eastwood once said... - sherod 19:04:43 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: If you don't trust your ears, you have no business wasting time on audio" = wrong - Bob Neill 08:12:48 04/10/09 (0)
- You can hear that? - Hepcat 06:54:05 04/10/09 (5)
- RE: You can hear that? - Bob Neill 10:37:14 04/10/09 (4)
- Did you write a Harbeth review once? - Hepcat 14:57:55 04/10/09 (3)
- RE: Did you write a Harbeth review once? - Bob Neill 16:38:01 04/10/09 (2)
- I keep it bookmarked. - Hepcat 07:02:58 04/11/09 (1)
- RE: I keep it bookmarked. - Bob Neill 10:15:43 04/11/09 (0)
- Naysayers and Ear Training............. - Todd Krieger 19:37:58 04/9/09 (8)
- Excuse me, but there is NO such thing as "Ear Training!" - Bill Thomas 02:17:45 04/10/09 (7)
- RE: Excuse me, but there is NO such thing as "Ear Training!" - finnman500@hotmail.com 18:29:52 04/10/09 (2)
- RE: Excuse me, but there is NO such thing as "Ear Training!" - Bill Thomas 22:11:21 04/10/09 (1)
- RE: Excuse me, but there is NO such thing as "Ear Training!" - finnman500@hotmail.com 05:49:45 04/11/09 (0)
- RE: Excuse me, but there is NO such thing as "Ear Training!" - docmark 08:47:29 04/10/09 (1)
- RE: You are right, the ears are far from simple pickup devices - navman 09:27:08 04/10/09 (0)
- "It is the BRAIN that is trained" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:19:54 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: Great post nt - navman 05:50:52 04/10/09 (0)
- preaching your unscientific, religious and reactionary mantra again? - Sordidman 10:06:56 04/9/09 (41)
- Some people like cupcakes better, - mark111 18:28:16 04/9/09 (1)
- He turns to us and speaks -t - Sordidman 11:24:37 04/10/09 (0)
- Let me apologize in advance! - Don Till 13:12:19 04/9/09 (38)
- I hope you only speak for yourself. - carcass93 14:33:50 04/9/09 (3)
- Laugh! - Don Till 22:32:07 04/9/09 (2)
- There's nothing to discuss - you're obviously irrational. - carcass93 07:52:29 04/10/09 (1)
- For sure a discussion is impossible.... - Don Till 08:24:55 04/10/09 (0)
- RBNGs wrong-O post below presents a better answer than I ever could -t - Sordidman 13:28:25 04/9/09 (0)
- Why? - Sordidman 13:21:10 04/9/09 (24)
- RE: Why? - Don Till 22:20:08 04/9/09 (23)
- RE: Why? - Sordidman 08:27:54 04/10/09 (22)
- I've got better things to do than defend RBNG - Don Till 08:43:39 04/10/09 (21)
- Well, then, I want my $5 back ... with interest - Richard BassNut Greene 13:51:18 04/10/09 (3)
- It's all ok with me except the denial - Don Till 10:16:35 04/11/09 (0)
- RE: Well, then, I want my $5 back ... with interest - finnman500@hotmail.com 07:52:32 04/11/09 (0)
- Radio Shack is waiting - Sordidman 14:16:35 04/10/09 (0)
- Then don't - especially considering you're not doing very good job at it. - carcass93 09:28:41 04/10/09 (10)
- My bias is not to confuse bad audio design with a high resolution design! - Don Till 09:55:57 04/10/09 (9)
- Cool: Carcass93 doesn't confuse them either but, - Sordidman 10:31:36 04/10/09 (8)
- RE: Cool: Carcass93 doesn't confuse them either but, - Don Till 11:49:11 04/10/09 (7)
- No - Sordidman 12:16:23 04/10/09 (6)
- LOL! - Don Till 13:00:40 04/10/09 (5)
- ROTFLMFAO - Sordidman 13:25:49 04/10/09 (4)
- No way - Don Till 06:27:10 04/11/09 (3)
- Well, run like the wind. Don't let me stop you from mad speculation - Sordidman 14:21:17 04/13/09 (2)
- Hey I posted the links supporting my comments - Don Till 15:17:28 04/13/09 (1)
- I have no competitors, and don't know what you're on about - Sordidman 15:49:39 04/13/09 (0)
- I hear you, and Thank you - Sordidman 09:28:36 04/10/09 (5)
- RE: I hear you, and Thank you - Don Till 09:49:32 04/10/09 (4)
- Perhaps - Sordidman 10:24:05 04/10/09 (3)
- RE: Perhaps - Don Till 12:24:48 04/10/09 (2)
- How many time does it need to be said: not so much what but how - Sordidman 12:43:18 04/10/09 (1)
- Ok if you insist on me agreeing that you are not being defensive I will! - Don Till 12:50:58 04/10/09 (0)
- "Isn't that a big "D" next to your moniker. Now it makes sense." - Richard BassNut Greene 13:18:41 04/9/09 (7)
- I didn't actually say that but... - Don Till 16:39:21 04/9/09 (1)
- Your post is wrong here - Sordidman 18:19:02 04/9/09 (0)
- You're distorting the truth again: nut. Meeting everyone's expectations - Sordidman 13:26:05 04/9/09 (4)
- "You really are very, very, bad at reading comprehension and communication." - Richard BassNut Greene 13:37:25 04/9/09 (3)
- What can I explain to you? Do you need a while to reflect on it? - Sordidman 13:38:56 04/9/09 (2)
- You have 8500 posts, yet you rarely share any "knowledge" about audio = amazing! - Richard BassNut Greene 13:31:49 04/10/09 (1)
- Pot meet Kettle: you first. - Sordidman 13:41:19 04/10/09 (0)
- Or maybe you'ld end up with interconnects and wires that actually make a difference? - Don Till 08:27:31 04/9/09 (29)
- RE: Or maybe you'ld end up with interconnects and wires that actually make a difference? - Frank I 11:00:13 04/9/09 (28)
- Wires Aren't About Money They're About Sound Quality - thetubeguy1954 13:01:50 04/9/09 (27)
- RE: Wires Aren't About Money They're About Sound Quality - Frank I 14:17:46 04/9/09 (0)
- Since no one has ever demonstrated that any wires sound better than 16AWG lamp cord, it's not about the sound - Richard BassNut Greene 13:25:47 04/9/09 (25)
- RE: Since no one has ever demonstrated that any wires sound better than 16AWG lamp cord, it's not about the sound - anthonyh 09:40:51 04/10/09 (0)
- Audiophiles don't have to prove anything to anyone other than themselves...(nt) - mkuller 13:50:58 04/9/09 (19)
- RE: True, but anyone who suggests to others that - audiophilect 09:58:41 04/10/09 (0)
- So true! - Don Till 09:16:19 04/10/09 (0)
- Audiophiles don't have to learn anything either, but learning is more useful than unproven beliefs & myths - Richard BassNut Greene 07:14:54 04/10/09 (16)
- Uh, Reverend Mr. Nut... - mkuller 12:39:07 04/10/09 (7)
- Please provide YOUR answer about how often an audiophile's hearing is less than perfection (100% correct) - Richard BassNut Greene 13:25:55 04/10/09 (5)
- LOL! I'd say your opinion is accurate about 13% of the time... - mkuller 13:34:58 04/10/09 (4)
- I knew and predicted in my prior post that you would refuse to answer a simple question about audio - Richard BassNut Greene 14:32:59 04/10/09 (3)
- I'm curious why you find the need to post your silly repititious... - mkuller 14:41:29 04/10/09 (2)
- I get attacked for questioning audio myths by people w/o a spare hour available for a simple single-blind experiment ? - Richard BassNut Greene 13:35:09 04/13/09 (1)
- LOL:""Just like scientists were attacked when they first claimed the Earth was round and the Sun didn't revolv - Sordidman 14:11:09 04/13/09 (0)
- That's a great nickname for him! We should get him a collar -t - Sordidman 12:44:50 04/10/09 (0)
- Talk about closed minded? - you da king!! - Sordidman 09:15:23 04/10/09 (7)
- Sordidman You Have To Learn To Understand Nutt-Speak! - thetubeguy1954 12:29:49 04/10/09 (4)
- RE: While I have heard differences in sound - navman 12:46:52 04/10/09 (3)
- RE: While I have heard differences in sound - audiophilect 17:41:16 04/10/09 (1)
- Thanks............... - navman 07:55:37 04/13/09 (0)
- RE: While I have heard differences in sound - thetubeguy1954 13:19:45 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: Talk about closed minded? - you da king!! - finnman500@hotmail.com 12:05:50 04/10/09 (1)
- Thanks for the advice! - Sordidman 12:19:42 04/10/09 (0)
- Wrong again Nut! People demonstrate it everyday: Don't stop preaching your false beliefs -t - Sordidman 13:30:08 04/9/09 (3)
- I'd give it up if I were you, S'man. - JimK 13:43:17 04/9/09 (2)
- "he has an overwhelming tendency to listen (and compare) gear at only one frequency- 1000 HZ," - Richard BassNut Greene 15:48:54 04/9/09 (0)
- Thanks JimK: LOL, - :-) - Sordidman 13:50:39 04/9/09 (0)
- RE: I have to agree fully - navman 07:08:59 04/9/09 (0)
- Yeah it's all about squandering your cash on useless gadgets... - The Real Dick Hertz 06:53:09 04/9/09 (3)
- Really? Do you think that sales are going through the roof - Sordidman 10:50:32 04/9/09 (2)
- In this economy, I'd question whether ANY hi-end stuff... - The Real Dick Hertz 12:24:22 04/9/09 (1)
- We're not talking about me - Sordidman 13:02:19 04/9/09 (0)
- That ain't what I tell my wife. I always tell her how much $$$ I saved on a piece of equipment - artemus 06:35:13 04/9/09 (0)
- What hobby is? - navman 05:52:35 04/9/09 (0)
- RE: "No hobby is." - David S. 04:01:11 04/9/09 (0)
- Are we ALL Yahoos and cheapskates? Why all these posts about saving money? Or... - Frihed89 03:00:49 04/9/09 (0)
- Not even partially? - Bhasi 02:12:59 04/9/09 (0)
- Speak for yourself I buy clearance, used and always try to get the best price. - Teresa 01:55:55 04/9/09 (54)
- "Never pay retail" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:06:20 04/9/09 (0)
- RE: Speak for yourself I buy clearance, used and always try to get the best price. - Ozzy 02:06:24 04/9/09 (52)
- I don't plan to, nothing else out there will satisfy me. - Teresa 03:23:07 04/9/09 (51)
- RE: I don't plan to, nothing else out there will satisfy me. - Ozzy 03:42:57 04/9/09 (50)
- RE: I don't plan to, nothing else out there will satisfy me. - Green Lantern 05:50:32 04/9/09 (2)
- RE: I don't plan to, nothing else out there will satisfy me. - Ozzy 06:49:37 04/9/09 (1)
- RE: +1 - navman 07:01:12 04/9/09 (0)
- I get out plenty and have heard super expensive speakers, they just are not good enough for me! - Teresa 04:00:26 04/9/09 (46)
- I'm shocked that people would attack your favorite speakers without even hearing them - Richard BassNut Greene 13:34:26 04/9/09 (17)
- Thanks Richard for all your logical points. - Teresa 17:29:37 04/9/09 (0)
- As an audiophile, she can keep her old... - mkuller 13:53:55 04/9/09 (15)
- I will now provide a review of Teresa's speakers without actually hearing them - Richard BassNut Greene 15:56:51 04/9/09 (7)
- Why not? - E-Stat 19:11:38 04/9/09 (0)
- That is par for the course for your modus operandi -t - Sordidman 16:03:45 04/9/09 (5)
- Must be mine too as I trust other people's opinions about equipment they own. - Teresa 17:35:03 04/9/09 (4)
- I would like to think that you'd listen for yourself -t - Sordidman 18:20:26 04/9/09 (3)
- That's a given, different ears, different rooms, different tastes. I must always listen for myself but - Teresa 20:11:56 04/9/09 (2)
- Absolutely true! - Sordidman 09:33:28 04/10/09 (1)
- RE: Absolutely true! - finnman500@hotmail.com 04/10/0911:25:33 04/10/09 (0)
- So I can't listen to the speaker I like most just because I'm a reviewer? - Teresa 14:03:58 04/9/09 (6)
- question. - mark111 15:53:47 04/9/09 (1)
- Never mind,I just checked your profile. - mark111 16:00:32 04/9/09 (0)
- What if you only liked Bose 901s or original Advents - how credible would your reviews be? (nt) - mkuller 14:12:23 04/9/09 (3)
- A lot of people swear by stacked Advents, I find you very intolerant, reviewers are people too. - Teresa 14:27:59 04/9/09 (2)
- I liked stacked advents in 1976 n/t - panhead 17:34:08 04/9/09 (0)
- Know any reviewers who use them as their reference speakers? (nt) - mkuller 14:30:13 04/9/09 (0)
- Yeah, listening on all of that lo-fi equipment that you have - Sordidman 10:55:54 04/9/09 (0)
- I hate to keep bringing this up, but... - mkuller 10:30:20 04/9/09 (21)
- You are right on - its1louder 18:04:06 04/9/09 (5)
- Sorry... - mkuller 10:05:10 04/10/09 (2)
- RE: Sorry... - finnman500@hotmail.com 12:27:57 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: Sorry... - its1louder 10:56:43 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: You are right on - Ozzy 05:02:15 04/10/09 (1)
- RE: You are right on - its1louder 09:27:47 04/10/09 (0)
- Then why don't other more expensive speakers sound anywhere near the sonic level the Kappa 7's achieve? - Teresa 14:00:52 04/9/09 (14)
- RE: Then why don't other more expensive speakers sound anywhere near the sonic level the Kappa 7's achieve? - finnman500@hotmail.com 17:12:25 04/10/09 (0)
- RE: They do, for some folks. - rick_m 06:34:55 04/10/09 (1)
- Wow what a wonderful story, that really shows Infinity's pride in their products, (nt) - Teresa 14:05:44 04/10/09 (0)
- No tape - not only the brightness, but the 'tin' character...(nt) - mkuller 14:13:42 04/9/09 (1)
- Was the amp used stable down to 1-2 ohms? Did you have the tweeter controls set to flat? - Teresa 14:46:15 04/9/09 (0)
- RE: Then why don't other more expensive speakers sound anywhere near the sonic level the Kappa 7's achieve? - Frank I 14:12:19 04/9/09 (8)
- I don't like the new infinity's after designer Arnie Nudel left and took his EMIT technology with him - Teresa 14:35:20 04/9/09 (7)
- RE: I don't like the new infinity's after designer Arnie Nudel left and took his EMIT technology with him - finnman500@hotmail.com 16:22:05 04/10/09 (4)
- I've been trying to find a pair of headphones that are close to the sonic accuracy and beauty of my Kappa 7's - Teresa 05:15:03 04/11/09 (3)
- RE: I've been trying to find a pair of headphones that are close to the sonic accuracy and beauty of my Kappa - finnman500@hotmail.com 06:35:53 04/11/09 (2)
- Thanks I will likely be comparing headphone amps as well - Teresa 12:09:55 04/13/09 (0)
- RE: +1 on the headphone amp - navman 08:19:38 04/13/09 (0)
- RE: I don't like the new infinity's after designer Arnie Nudel left and took his EMIT technology with him - Frank I 17:59:51 04/9/09 (1)
- Thanks Frank! I guess that scratches Genesis off my list (;-) nt - Teresa 18:13:50 04/9/09 (0)
- RE: I get out plenty and have heard super expensive speakers, they just are not good enough for me! - Ozzy 04:20:16 04/9/09 (4)
- RE: I get out plenty and have heard super expensive speakers, they just are not good enough for me! - finnman500@hotmail.com 12:39:03 04/11/09 (0)
- I've said this for years! Have you ever heard the Wilson Watt Puppies? - Teresa 04:33:04 04/9/09 (2)
- RE: I've said this for years! Have you ever heard the Wilson Watt Puppies? - SgreenP@MSN.com 09:06:51 04/9/09 (1)
- IMO, having heard much of the Wilson in different applications - Sordidman 11:02:58 04/9/09 (0)
Follow Ups
- RE: Absolutely true! - finnman500@hotmail.com 04/10/0911:25:33 04/10/09 (0)