In Reply to: Put it down to weariness posted by John Atkinson on April 20, 2004 at 17:29:15:
Hi John> > Put it down to the fact that I am _deeply_ suspicious of a DAC
> > that omits the reconstruction filter. You may like the sound, but
> > it is poor engineering by any definition of the word.Here I am going to take issue with you. I don't agree that it is poor engineering. A strange engineering choice maybe, but not poor at all. Audio Note chose to leave the filter out. They used to make DACs with filters in (IIRC), so the absence of one is not due to a lack of engineering competence. As one poster mentioned SETs measure terribly ITO normal engineering standards, but they sound good (some of them do anyway). Once again it may be an engineering choice which may be strange to some, but it is made for specific reasons. IOW what I am saying is that to call it 'poor engineering by any definition of the word' is totally incorrect. If you called it a strange engineering decision, or something of that ilk, I would have agreed with you.
Regards,
Deon
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- I disagree on you about the DAC - Deon C 04/20/0420:03:22 04/20/04 (46)
- Call me a Holtist - John Atkinson 04:33:53 04/21/04 (27)
- Re: Call me a Realist - Peter Qvortrup 11:04:30 04/21/04 (24)
- Some thoughts on filters - John Atkinson 13:25:31 04/21/04 (23)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Peter Qvortrup 10:15:49 04/22/04 (0)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Charles Hansen 19:53:30 04/21/04 (7)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Peter Qvortrup 08:05:03 04/22/04 (0)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - John Atkinson 04:33:28 04/22/04 (4)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Peter Qvortrup 03:28:23 04/24/04 (0)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Charles Hansen 09:33:43 04/22/04 (2)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - John Atkinson 10:38:01 04/22/04 (1)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Peter Qvortrup 03:22:21 04/24/04 (0)
- analog filter - Jack Gribble 21:06:51 04/21/04 (0)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Magnetar 15:34:07 04/21/04 (13)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - John Atkinson 17:38:57 04/21/04 (12)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Sean 21:52:47 04/21/04 (10)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - John Atkinson 04:16:58 04/22/04 (9)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Sean 21:52:36 04/22/04 (0)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Magnetar 06:49:01 04/22/04 (7)
- Since I know you won't search - Magnetar 06:59:39 04/22/04 (6)
- Thank you - John Atkinson 07:56:12 04/22/04 (5)
- Re: Thank you - Magnetar 08:50:07 04/22/04 (4)
- Re: Thank you - John Atkinson 09:20:36 04/22/04 (3)
- Re: Thank you - Magnetar 09:47:14 04/22/04 (2)
- Cool it. - The Bored 15:56:14 04/22/04 (0)
- Let's bring this to an end - John Atkinson 10:47:21 04/22/04 (0)
- Re: Some thoughts on filters - Magnetar 17:45:21 04/21/04 (0)
- Re: Call me a Holtist - HiFi Guy 08:04:46 04/21/04 (1)
- No, you're not a "Holtist".... - Sean 22:03:03 04/21/04 (0)
- IF JA understood DAC's he would know... - Robert H. 21:07:59 04/20/04 (17)
- Re: If Robert H understood ADC's he would know... - Caymus 15:10:56 04/21/04 (16)
- Re: If Robert H understood ADC's he would know... - Peter Qvortrup 03:39:41 04/22/04 (0)
- Re: If Robert H understood ADC's he would know... - Sean 22:11:19 04/21/04 (11)
- The DAC *always* adds garbage from ½ SR to SR - Caymus 22:38:59 04/21/04 (10)
- I meant - "But maybe some "audiophiles" actually love that dirty digital grunge you get WITHOUT filtering" (nt) - Caymus 22:42:38 04/21/04 (9)
- Re: I meant - "But maybe some "audiophiles" actually love that dirty digital grunge you get WITHOUT filtering" (nt) - Sean 23:27:09 04/21/04 (8)
- Caymus has never heard a filterless DAC... - Robert H. 06:10:18 04/22/04 (7)
- Huh? Sounds like you’ve been duped by more marketing gimmicks - Caymus 10:29:38 04/22/04 (0)
- A filterless DAC... - John Atkinson 07:46:22 04/22/04 (5)
- Re: A filterless DAC... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 11:55:34 04/22/04 (3)
- A more deep-rooted problem - John Atkinson 12:38:25 04/22/04 (2)
- Re: A more deep-rooted problem - Peter Qvortrup 02:40:49 04/25/04 (0)
- I agree.... - Sean 20:34:52 04/22/04 (0)
- Re: A filterless DAC... - Robert H. 08:36:36 04/22/04 (0)
- You know, Fred... - Robert H. 19:06:03 04/21/04 (2)
- Childish and immature reply as usual Robert H...(sigh) - Caymus 20:23:16 04/21/04 (1)
- Re: Childish and immature reply as usual Robert H...(sigh) - Robert H. 21:34:16 04/21/04 (0)