In Reply to: I don`t think so. posted by chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com on April 9, 2002 at 11:30:48:
***After reading the whole thread which has taken of the appearance of a war-zone, it`s easy to get the impression that ggraff has indeed attacked science but read the original post by itself and I can`t honestly see that he has.***Um, check out his repeated confusions of math and science, and his repeated arguments about DBT's being pseudoscience. In that respect, he's directly attacked the science head-on, I fear.
HOWEVER:
***All he`s said is that he`s given up trying to prove/measure beyond doubt the effectiveness of tweaks and the like when improvements are apparently audible to him and his trusted friends.***
I don't agree that that's all he's said. Were that what I thought, I'd agree with him, instead of disagreeing so strongly.
***Saying that some science is `pseudoscience` doesn`t tar all science with the same brush, but take a random pick of the various websites of cable/tweaks/components manufacturers and read the explanations of why their products are better than the competition; they can`t all be right yet the list of facts and figures on display are designed to support the claims.***
Unfortunately that's not the people he attacked. He attacked people who use DBT's, and people who have probabilistic justifications as pseudoscience. That kind of attack is purely wrong, and unfair.
It would be a great deal of fun for somebody with deep pockets, a very good tort lawyer, and more spare time than anybody I know of to take a look at some of the more fantastical claims for some of the more fantastical products, indeed, but that's not what he called for.
Once again, it's DBT's, chemestry and physics that he struck out against. This is part of why I still wonder if he's a simple troll, or perhaps he's parodying the audiophile.
As to some of the explainations for tweaks, well, I agree entirely. I've seen some that might work, especially some that might introduce small amounts of FM modulation, or small amounts of euphonic distortions, but that claim to do things like "recover information" and the like that are just, well, err, (expletive deleted).
JJ
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- Re: Now that's a different bird altogether.... - jj 04/9/0212:58:51 04/9/02 (2)
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