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In Reply to: "real as life " vocal recordings posted by trioderob on May 19, 2023 at 19:21:38:
This is an area i am keenly interested in.
An issue with "real life" is that recordings are normally composed and not a capture of real life event or sound.
At best they sound like "real"
Singers and other instruments are "placed" in space with pan pots at the simplest end and placed spatially using HRTF's to make it "sound like" the sound came from beyond the loudspeakers extent.
Listen to the OP's recording and you hear reverb is added and hf presence added.
The Mono phantom image happens when the signal coming from both speakers is identical / nearly identical AND if loudspeakers do not over ride the illusion with their own "spatial identity", stereo image is information not quite centered. .
Spatial identity is what i call the ability of a speaker to be localized in distance when ones eyes are closed.
The speaker radiating strong location identity is conflicting with the stereo image. You do not want the speakers to be obvious sources of sound as most are, rather all other aspects being equal, the speaker where its hard to guess how far away it is with eyes closed produces a more real phantom/ stereo image as the speaker's depth / identity conflicts less with the illusion.
Consider the case of a recorded voice that was far away while the loudspeakers identity is telling your brain the source is on either side and 10 feet away.
Warning, I am a mfr (well design the loudspeaker products anyway) but we don't sell "hifi" speakers, but we do sell speakers to recording studio's, video production houses, movie theaters and a number of the largest outdoor audio system in Orlando..
Home audio is my hobby since childhood and it's why i have posted here for ages.
I can share a recording I made with a different type of stereo capture, these are the front two channels (of a hemisphere) covering about 120 degrees wide.
These are not exciting, only one is music, what i have found is that it is hard to capture real life and make it sound realistic.
Natural sounds are also difficult to capture, they tend to be non-harmonic in structure and both even and odd harmonics stand out.
I would be intersted in your comments on the Image on these as it's a project i want to get back to
4th of July Parade, 2007, Deerfield illinois.
This was about 75 feet from the road where the parade and people were.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8208qvei00qxzxz/parade%20section3.wav?dl=0
An empty coal train starting up with bird and cicada accompaniment
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zezdk6xf87onx6f/TrainStart.wav?dl=0
This was a BBQ a friend had where his kids were in an Irish folk music group and played. I left a long lead in as it was fun listening to the kids talking.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bapo90q79ukanjs/Johns%20bbqTrack%2004.wav?dl=0
Last 6min of fireworks, taken about 3/8 mile away.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/da388k4pxoc4vaf/fireworks%202013%20last%206%20min%20cd.wav?dl=0
These are not compressed and VERY hard for most loudspeakers to produce properly so try headphones first.
The fireworks especially have a low average level so you will need to turn the gain up and again especially here, try headphones first.
Where most modern music has a peak to average level in the 10 to 20dB, the fireworks is more like 40dB or more
Tom
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