Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself

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Topic - "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - Todd Krieger 05:05:54 07/24/22 (105)

RE: "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - fantja 09:16:48 08/6/22 (0)

RE: "MoFi Gate": one solution is - LtMandella 19:41:26 07/26/22 (0)

Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself - Feanor 07/26/2206:43:55 07/26/22 (39)

RE: Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself - SoundMann 14:24:01 08/5/22 (0)

Not to mention the deliberate colorations of the cartridge - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 09:06:10 07/27/22 (16)

People are entitle to like what they like, but it's strange ... - Feanor 04:42:19 07/28/22 (15)

It's sad that we've come to this. - tketcham 05:19:06 07/29/22 (11)

That's true -- there were/are more and less good LPs - Feanor 08:23:53 07/29/22 (0)

My ears - geoffkait 05:47:33 07/29/22 (8)

RE: Your ears - tketcham 07:38:23 07/29/22 (7)

Logical fallacy alert! - geoffkait 07:57:35 07/29/22 (6)

Logics? I thought we were discussing music... - tketcham 14:00:49 07/29/22 (1)

If you're happy, I'm happy, that's all that really matters. - geoffkait 14:37:45 07/29/22 (0)

you are a logical fallacy bud - " to be a logical fallacy, it must be logically flawed or deceptive " - Story 08:06:01 07/29/22 (3)

It was a logical fallacy because...- - geoffkait 09:54:05 07/29/22 (2)

maybe you will also - Story 10:07:45 07/29/22 (1)

I epitomize the high end, your mind is still in the gutter, bubble boy. - geoffkait 13:38:44 07/29/22 (0)

RE: It's sad that we've come to this. - Story 05:35:42 07/29/22 (0)

Accuracy - geoffkait 08:25:00 07/28/22 (2)

"Overly compressed dynamic range" - Feanor 09:52:52 07/28/22 (1)

Nevertheless - geoffkait 10:46:56 07/28/22 (0)

RE: Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself - Todd Krieger 08:24:31 07/27/22 (3)

Sounds a bit like climate change denial - Feanor 07:58:44 07/28/22 (1)

so has vinyl since Edison - Story 08:26:05 07/28/22 (0)

if I did not have any digital I wouldn't have any Porcupine Tree - Story 08:37:05 07/27/22 (0)

No, it's not a scam - Analog Scott 10:18:07 07/26/22 (10)

OK, so it depends how you define "scam", I guess - Feanor 12:40:17 07/26/22 (9)

If we are going to communicate we don'tget to make up personal defintions of words - Analog Scott 06:31:31 07/27/22 (4)

The scam happens whenever a vendor claims that vinyl is high-fidelity - Feanor 04:44:20 07/28/22 (3)

RE: The scam happens whenever a vendor claims that vinyl is high-fidelity - SoundMann 14:33:11 08/5/22 (0)

High end vinyl or your money back - geoffkait 06:02:59 07/28/22 (0)

using that same logic of yours, digital ain't - Story 05:38:14 07/28/22 (0)

you're a grown man, the word SCAM should not be used so lightly - Story 12:49:28 07/26/22 (3)

Just ignore me then -nt - Feanor 13:09:36 07/26/22 (2)

we try to - Story 13:12:51 07/26/22 (1)

I assume you mean we as in we the peanut gallery - geoffkait 11:40:14 07/27/22 (0)

Yea it's possible - Goober58 10:07:32 07/26/22 (0)

can you be honest?? - Story 06:49:25 07/26/22 (4)

The last time I seriously listened to vinyl - Feanor 08:58:20 07/26/22 (3)

I had a Holman at one time for a bit - Story 09:11:39 07/26/22 (2)

Sometimes folks get lost and wander over here from ASR or Hydrogen Audio. nt - viridian 09:45:27 08/6/22 (1)

+1 /nt - Story 09:50:31 08/6/22 (0)

RE: "MoFi Gate". - pbarach 09:44:07 07/25/22 (0)

Isn't it Michael Fremer who likes to cut LPs from CD? - Feanor 09:22:38 07/25/22 (6)

RE: Isn't it Michael Fremer who likes to cut LPs from CD? - SoundMann 14:17:20 08/5/22 (0)

I believe that he has/had an Allesis MasterLink 9600...- - Chris Garrett 10:24:00 07/27/22 (1)

there's a fix - Story 10:38:25 07/27/22 (0)

No nt - Tre' 09:51:20 07/25/22 (2)

No? Who then? -nt - Feanor 11:51:11 07/25/22 (1)

I don't know -nt - Tre' 12:57:33 07/25/22 (0)

Coupla active threads here on AA (in VINYL) on the subject... N/T - musetap 21:27:05 07/24/22 (0)

RE: "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - itolduso1000timesb4 17:19:37 07/24/22 (0)

I suspect those most upset - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 16:25:10 07/24/22 (24)

If anything is COLORED just right I can live with that - Story 04:20:24 07/25/22 (6)

How much is too much - Goober58 15:38:37 07/25/22 (5)

back in '75 it sounded amazing - Story 16:47:05 07/25/22 (4)

RE: back in '75 it sounded amazing - Goober58 09:57:33 07/26/22 (3)

as good as any 33 can be... - Story 10:06:19 07/26/22 (2)

RE: as good as any 33 can be... - Goober58 10:12:49 07/26/22 (1)

all mine were purchased years ago, nothing recent - Story 10:30:23 07/26/22 (0)

Wait until they find out they were mastered at 55% speed!... N/T - musetap 01:33:16 07/25/22 (0)

RE: I suspect those most upset - Todd Krieger 19:43:07 07/24/22 (15)

RE: I suspect those most upset - Analog Scott 00:49:57 07/25/22 (14)

Not hiding - Tre' 08:55:41 07/25/22 (13)

Actually that was the video that lead to him going into hiding - Analog Scott 22:13:29 07/25/22 (7)

Here's Mikey from the 22nd, two days after you say he went into hiding - Tre' 08:21:49 07/26/22 (5)

I don't think you are getting the picture here - Analog Scott 10:26:50 07/26/22 (3)

can you give me a link? - Tre' 11:47:23 07/26/22 (2)

RE: can you give me a link? - Analog Scott 06:34:23 07/27/22 (1)

I am asking for a link to the message boards.... - Tre' 07:29:51 07/27/22 (0)

thanks Tre - Story 09:26:56 07/26/22 (0)

It was four days ago? - Tre' 06:31:34 07/26/22 (0)

I've seen enough Fremer recently ... - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 17:41:28 07/25/22 (3)

Yup nt - Analog Scott 22:15:04 07/25/22 (0)

RE: I've seen enough Fremer recently ... - Tre' 20:15:28 07/25/22 (1)

So, I watched - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 23:19:30 07/25/22 (0)

much ado, explains why I've heard 'softness' on some. Thans Tre /nt - Story 09:18:34 07/25/22 (0)

RE: "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - Goober58 15:17:23 07/24/22 (0)

re: MoFi-gate: "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" (nt) - mhardy6647 14:42:26 07/24/22 (0)

New 180 gram vinyl started showing up in stores 20 years ago - most made from digital files. - geoffkait 13:40:45 07/24/22 (6)

RE: New 180 gram vinyl started showing up in stores 20 years ago - most made from digital files. - Todd Krieger 14:42:42 07/24/22 (5)

RE: New 180 gram vinyl started showing up in stores 20 years ago - most made from digital files. - geoffkait 04:03:02 07/25/22 (0)

Addendum...... - Todd Krieger 15:35:20 07/24/22 (3)

RE: Addendum...... - geoffkait 09:33:40 07/25/22 (2)

RE: Addendum...... - Todd Krieger 13:59:55 07/25/22 (1)

RE: Addendum...... - geoffkait 14:51:53 07/25/22 (0)

RE: "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - Analog Scott 13:18:56 07/24/22 (3)

RE: "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - Tre' 10:04:19 07/25/22 (2)

Yep! He suuuuuuure did say that - Analog Scott 10:30:03 07/26/22 (1)

RE: Yep! He suuuuuuure did say that - Tre' 16:40:23 07/26/22 (0)

RE: "MoFi Gate"..... Recent Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Has Been Digitally Mastered.... [yt] - Utley1 10:00:04 07/24/22 (0)

The MoFi DSD One Steps ain't cheap, gentle readers - geoffkait 08:40:03 07/24/22 (2)

RE: The MoFi DSD One Steps ain't cheap, gentle readers - srdavis2000 11:17:57 07/24/22 (1)

RE: The MoFi DSD One Steps ain't cheap, gentle readers - geoffkait 11:43:55 07/24/22 (0)

A lot of those old tape masters are probably unusable - Story 05:19:39 07/24/22 (10)

RE:That Seems at Odds With . . . - Mel 09:43:45 07/24/22 (3)

well... I mean... you said "repair" ;) (nt) - mhardy6647 14:36:33 07/24/22 (2)

RE: well... I mean... you said "repair" ;) (nt) - Mel 19:16:27 07/24/22 (1)

they have to RENT tapes or whatever source - Story 12:25:07 07/25/22 (0)

That's a Valid Point....... - Todd Krieger 05:24:48 07/24/22 (5)

they have Frank Sinatra on MFSL - Story 05:56:13 07/24/22 (4)

I lived throught that era, as a reel-to-reel recordist - John Marks 06:08:15 07/24/22 (3)

This Raises Two Questions.......... - Todd Krieger 07:11:39 07/24/22 (2)

To which I totally lack good answers! - John Marks 07:26:23 07/24/22 (1)

Very Informative...... [nt] - Todd Krieger 08:03:47 07/24/22 (0)

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Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself - Feanor 07/26/2206:43:55 07/26/22 (39)

RE: Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself - SoundMann 14:24:01 08/5/22 (0)

Not to mention the deliberate colorations of the cartridge - rickmcinnis@dogwoodfabrics.com 09:06:10 07/27/22 (16)

People are entitle to like what they like, but it's strange ... - Feanor 04:42:19 07/28/22 (15)

It's sad that we've come to this. - tketcham 05:19:06 07/29/22 (11)

That's true -- there were/are more and less good LPs - Feanor 08:23:53 07/29/22 (0)

My ears - geoffkait 05:47:33 07/29/22 (8)

RE: Your ears - tketcham 07:38:23 07/29/22 (7)

Logical fallacy alert! - geoffkait 07:57:35 07/29/22 (6)

Logics? I thought we were discussing music... - tketcham 14:00:49 07/29/22 (1)

If you're happy, I'm happy, that's all that really matters. - geoffkait 14:37:45 07/29/22 (0)

you are a logical fallacy bud - " to be a logical fallacy, it must be logically flawed or deceptive " - Story 08:06:01 07/29/22 (3)

It was a logical fallacy because...- - geoffkait 09:54:05 07/29/22 (2)

maybe you will also - Story 10:07:45 07/29/22 (1)

I epitomize the high end, your mind is still in the gutter, bubble boy. - geoffkait 13:38:44 07/29/22 (0)

RE: It's sad that we've come to this. - Story 05:35:42 07/29/22 (0)

Accuracy - geoffkait 08:25:00 07/28/22 (2)

"Overly compressed dynamic range" - Feanor 09:52:52 07/28/22 (1)

Nevertheless - geoffkait 10:46:56 07/28/22 (0)

RE: Sorry, gotta say it: the real scam is vinyl itself - Todd Krieger 08:24:31 07/27/22 (3)

Sounds a bit like climate change denial - Feanor 07:58:44 07/28/22 (1)

so has vinyl since Edison - Story 08:26:05 07/28/22 (0)

if I did not have any digital I wouldn't have any Porcupine Tree - Story 08:37:05 07/27/22 (0)

No, it's not a scam - Analog Scott 10:18:07 07/26/22 (10)

OK, so it depends how you define "scam", I guess - Feanor 12:40:17 07/26/22 (9)

If we are going to communicate we don'tget to make up personal defintions of words - Analog Scott 06:31:31 07/27/22 (4)

The scam happens whenever a vendor claims that vinyl is high-fidelity - Feanor 04:44:20 07/28/22 (3)

RE: The scam happens whenever a vendor claims that vinyl is high-fidelity - SoundMann 14:33:11 08/5/22 (0)

High end vinyl or your money back - geoffkait 06:02:59 07/28/22 (0)

using that same logic of yours, digital ain't - Story 05:38:14 07/28/22 (0)

you're a grown man, the word SCAM should not be used so lightly - Story 12:49:28 07/26/22 (3)

Just ignore me then -nt - Feanor 13:09:36 07/26/22 (2)

we try to - Story 13:12:51 07/26/22 (1)

I assume you mean we as in we the peanut gallery - geoffkait 11:40:14 07/27/22 (0)

Yea it's possible - Goober58 10:07:32 07/26/22 (0)

can you be honest?? - Story 06:49:25 07/26/22 (4)

The last time I seriously listened to vinyl - Feanor 08:58:20 07/26/22 (3)

I had a Holman at one time for a bit - Story 09:11:39 07/26/22 (2)

Sometimes folks get lost and wander over here from ASR or Hydrogen Audio. nt - viridian 09:45:27 08/6/22 (1)

+1 /nt - Story 09:50:31 08/6/22 (0)

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