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In Reply to: RE: Elbow room for Thiel CS2.4 posted by AbeCollins on May 2, 2022 at 08:58:17:
...I will be in email conversations with anywhere from 3 to 12 different audiophiles. It's mostly from rock music audiophiles, who never post, but feed me suggestions and info, so I can formulate the next Rocky Road post. But regardless of musical taste, audiophiles complain to me about my friends (mostly nerd girls) getting hurt or injured, from playing sports.
In 1987, our high school demands and academics got harder. Thus, my guy friends stopped coming out, to play sports. Those of us who remained desperately needed bodies. So initially, they asked their female relatives. And then I/we/you asked a stray female classmate or two. Since we didn't have athleticism, size, or strength, my friend Shelly, a heavy metal fan, volunteered to QB. Shelly got hit, as she was attempting to throw a checkdown. She later learned that she had suffered a torn labrum.
Fast forward to December 22, 1993. Shelly and I went to Slim's nightclub (which was owned by Boz Scaggs), to see Sepultura. It was really too packed, to have any free-flowing mosh pits. But the crowd thrashed around, nevertheless. Some guy's head ended up ramming Shelly between her right clavicle and armpit, close to where she previously had a torn labrum. She said her right arm felt like it was falling off, and with her left hand, clutched her shoulder.
A friendly security guard actually took Shelly to the back loft, which was roped off to/from fans. From that vantage point, a light bulb turned on, in Shelly head. Free from the crowd, she was able to see the band, and hear them in a different light.
Which bring us to the Thiel CS2.4 (I've also lived with the CS.5 and CS1.5). There's nothing wrong , with listening from the middle of the room. However, when you go to the back of the room, that's when the sound can gel, and that light bulb goes on, in your head. You think to yourself, "Maybe this is the realization of Thiel's design goals."
Here, I had brought the Thiel CS.5 to a friend's house, where, regardless of where you sat, it performed better than in my 15x15 chamber of death. When conversing with audiophiles, I'm told that they don't do karaoke. But it was during karaoke, when my friends were sitting in the back of the room. Without any prompting, they remarked how good the karaoke tracks sounded, via the Thiel CS.5. And this was with the same mass-market electronics (I think speaker cable was my Kimber 4TC), owned by my friend's family. One of the girls poured her heart into Eric Carmen's "Never Gonna Fall In Love Again." After the song, we had to check if she was okay!
If we have the proper room for a Thiel CS2.4, we find that it is an accurate transducer, reflecting what's upstream. It told us how lousy the Cary CD303/300 was. Didn't matter which powercords or tubes we used; that player sucked. And then we used the solid state outputs, and those sounded clearer and more confident, than the tubed output! Hey, don't blame the CS2.4, for merely telling it like it is.
Our main power amps were the Conrad-Johnson MV-60SE, Mark Levinson No. 431, and Simaudio W-7. Then we sprinkled in the low-powered Decware Taboo and Wright Sound WPA-3. It was amazing, how each amp sounded different, on the CS2.4.
The CS2.4 was "sensitive" to speaker cables. The Kimber KS-3033 was clumsy and plodding, kind of like the doofus, who rammed into Shelly. The MIT Magnum series speaker cables had way too much bass, but did have large, made-of-clay imaging. The Nordost Valhalla was thin (image-wise), with a "white-haze" coloration. The Shunyata Orion drew an accurate sketch. The Tara Labs The One's transparency yielded arguably the best sound from the CS2.4. The XLO Unlimited Edition UE-5 (pictured in my previous post) was drier and more powerful than the Tara Labs The One.
Not easy, lugging around the CS2.4, but we tried it in several homes, and even a commercial venue. Obviously, even if it is set up optimally, that doesn't guarantee that the listener will like it.
-Lummy The Loch Monster
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Follow Ups
- On any given day... - Luminator 05/2/2219:50:35 05/2/22 (5)
- "...sitting in the back of the room" - Krav Maga 03:06:21 05/4/22 (4)
- Different speakers for different setups/rooms - Luminator 19:58:57 05/4/22 (0)
- RE: "...sitting in the back of the room" - Krav Maga 15:13:18 05/4/22 (2)
- Thanks for those links nt - uncle mag 16:57:42 05/4/22 (1)
- RE: Thanks for those links nt - Krav Maga 21:51:22 05/4/22 (0)
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