Dear music loving audiophiles,These afe some preliminary findings: The Reference CD whose absolute polarity is correct is a DDD and so the vinyl record had to have been made using a DAC so somewhere after the DAC something went wrong because the vinyl record if out of absolute polarity. The Reference HDCD High Definition Digital Sampler is out of correct absolute polarity both when the CD version is played on a CD player and the HDCD and a Toshiba DVD player for the HDCD. Thus a CD player that plays an ordinary CD of the same material but play's it back in absolute polarty will make the copy sound more like the live performance than the HDCD being played out of absolute polarity.
The Opus 3 records were all made in correct absolute polarity if the phono stage we used is non-inverting and all its CD tracks are out of absolute polarity. The problems would seem to be h somewhere in the analog domain.
Best regards,
George, Perfect Polarity Pundit.
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Topic - CD and vinyl record polarity - georgelouis 03:06:03 05/21/06 (53)
- Get over it, the sad truth is.... - Jon Risch 20:04:29 05/21/06 (18)
- "Human hearing is not sensitive to absolute phase ... absolute phase can be audible, but it is (generally) irrelevant - Richard BassNut Greene 10:14:29 05/22/06 (5)
- Oh! Well, that settles it, then. nt - markrohr 02:53:53 05/23/06 (0)
- Re: "Human hearing is not sensitive to absolute phase ... absolute phase can be audible, but it is (generally) irrelevan - tecnofossil 16:50:49 05/22/06 (1)
- "I'd be careful of citing his work as the final word....." No kidding. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:44:15 05/23/06 (0)
- Moot point - Jon Risch 10:23:45 05/22/06 (1)
- None of my points are moot points -- So now you're an attorney too! - Richard BassNut Greene 17:19:30 05/22/06 (0)
- All very true, Jon, with this IMPORTANT exception: - clarkjohnsen 09:10:12 05/22/06 (8)
- Let's rename 'absolute' to 'final.' Everything upstream is 'relative,' literally...-nt- - cdb 18:00:54 05/22/06 (1)
- Excellent observation... betrays a full understanding... try telling it to tout le monde, though... nt - clarkjohnsen 08:34:32 05/23/06 (0)
- Sorry Clark - Jon Risch 10:29:36 05/22/06 (5)
- You labor under a delusion, sir -- perhaps your only one. - clarkjohnsen 10:44:54 05/22/06 (4)
- "I've banished that notion in the message referenced below." CJ - garth 12:40:24 05/22/06 (3)
- And where in that paper do you read about inscription of acoustic polarity onto any media? - clarkjohnsen 15:33:48 05/22/06 (2)
- So tell us how. Oh, you can't either? Thought so. - garth 00:34:41 05/23/06 (1)
- Huh! And you accuse *me* of being condescending. - clarkjohnsen 08:42:33 05/23/06 (0)
- Re: Get over it, the sad truth is.... - Doc Gaw 05:46:53 05/22/06 (2)
- "Finally someone who understands absolute polarity." I beg your pardon! - clarkjohnsen 09:01:13 05/22/06 (0)
- Make things EASY for yourself... - SE 07:46:39 05/22/06 (0)
- Perhaps obtaining a certain level of absolute polarity advances - musetap 12:49:20 05/21/06 (2)
- Or not ..... but I would not be inclined to not wholy disagree but not entirely. - garth 12:57:35 05/21/06 (1)
- Whoa! *Quintuple negative!* Well done, sir! ;-) nt - markrohr 17:01:46 05/21/06 (0)
- Are you the same Mr. Louis who tried selling that RelaityCheck? - Caymus 10:27:07 05/21/06 (14)
- Re: Are you the same Mr. Louis who tried selling that RelaityCheck? - georgelouis 11:42:08 05/21/06 (13)
- "the sadist truth" - Rob Doorack 19:43:14 05/21/06 (4)
- Re: "the sadist truth" - georgelouis 21:08:48 05/21/06 (3)
- Re: "the sadist truth" - Rob Doorack 07:00:42 05/22/06 (2)
- Indeed, if one were to balance the the saddest aspects - musetap 12:03:13 05/22/06 (1)
- yup. hallmarks of crankery (nt) - CD 15:19:51 05/22/06 (0)
- "Those two factors all by themselves trump everything else" - tunenut 14:44:29 05/21/06 (0)
- I wonder why 'normal' people think we audiophiles are nuts? Hmmm......./nt/ - powermatic 13:09:33 05/21/06 (3)
- Because we're here reading posts from George???? (-: (guilty) (wot) - garth 13:41:21 05/21/06 (2)
- BTW garth: shoot me an e-mail sometime. /nt/ - powermatic 20:00:16 05/21/06 (0)
- touche' :-) /nt/ - powermatic 17:01:00 05/21/06 (0)
- Re: Are you the same Mr. Louis who tried selling that RelaityCheck? - georgelouis 11:58:09 05/21/06 (2)
- George, why not just read through your first post before sending it? - garth 12:55:32 05/21/06 (1)
- Too practical? Too logical? Too normal? Too sane? Too tooo..shay? NT.... - musetap 13:28:32 05/21/06 (0)
- Stop pulling our leg... - budget fi 08:38:40 05/21/06 (0)
- "The problems would seem to be h somewhere in the analog domain." HUH? - garth 03:30:01 05/21/06 (14)
- Re: "The problems would seem to be h somewhere in the analog domain." HUH? - georgelouis 10:33:41 05/21/06 (13)
- As I had posted earlier - unclestu52 13:48:34 05/21/06 (4)
- Re: As I had posted earlier - georgelouis 14:55:37 05/21/06 (0)
- Stu, do you mean.... - garth 14:11:36 05/21/06 (2)
- Yes: - unclestu52 14:46:08 05/21/06 (1)
- Thanks! Do you think the "rip to disc" "inversion" is a software - garth 14:52:36 05/21/06 (0)
- The ADC is just one step. - garth 13:39:16 05/21/06 (7)
- Re: The ADC is just one step. - georgelouis 15:26:51 05/21/06 (6)
- What the hell are you rambling on about? - garth 23:43:25 05/21/06 (5)
- "Do you think you are the second coming of Clark J.?" Who himself was... - clarkjohnsen 10:26:08 05/22/06 (2)
- Perhaps each incarnation gets better? - garth 12:43:38 05/22/06 (1)
- But does the absolute polarity change from incarnation to incarnation?...N/T - musetap 23:12:23 05/22/06 (0)
- Re: What the hell are you rambling on about? - georgelouis 00:20:23 05/22/06 (1)
- "first day of an undergrate class" ? - garth 00:43:08 05/22/06 (0)