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In Reply to: The DBT that proved all amplifiers sound THE SAME posted by Richard BassNut Greene on December 29, 2005 at 07:22:24:
You say, "The DBT that proves all amplifiers sound THE SAME",
which is another false statement.Correct, because it is the nature of DBTs that they cannot prove the negative proposition that there is no difference . They can only prove that no difference was provable under the conditions test. On the other hand, a DBT can prove that differences do exist.
Without being an expert scientific experiment designer, my guess is that Sound Advice 's test design & setup was not only sufficiently good but also so well documented that it could repeated by anyone interested. This is at least one important scientific criterion that I suggest was met.
You have unequivocally denounce Sound Advice 's test as "no test" without knowing any details of the test other than the few that I happened to mention. When people make pronoucements in ignorance, they may be accused of closed-mindedness or have a personal agenda.
On the one hand you accuse me of "baiting" golden ears, now you accuse me of trying to prove the Objectivists wrong. For one thing I don't believe that all Objectivists believe that 'all amps sound the same'. Are you an Objectivist? Do you speak for them all?
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Follow Ups
- False indeed - Feanor 12/29/0507:50:33 12/29/05 (21)
- "It's "common knowledge" that DBTs of properly functioning amplifiers reveal no differences amongst them" - Richard BassNut Greene 08:52:12 12/29/05 (14)
- Read up or shut up - Feanor 09:41:58 12/29/05 (13)
- The golden ears often end up using character attacks when trying to refute an objective audiophile - Richard BassNut Greene 10:00:14 12/29/05 (12)
- Re: A pity.. - theaudiohobby 22:16:25 12/29/05 (2)
- This can not possibly be a "DBT debate" because there was no DBT ----- a subjective audition was falsely called a "DBT" - Richard BassNut Greene 07:55:00 12/30/05 (1)
- Re: This can not possibly be a "DBT debate" because there was no DBT ----- a subjective audition was falsely called a "D - theaudiohobby 10:39:38 12/31/05 (0)
- Oh please! Now you're the victim - Feanor 10:04:53 12/29/05 (8)
- I said there was no test in my first post of this thread -- you've danced around that fact ever since - Richard BassNut Greene 10:25:25 12/29/05 (7)
- You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper - Dave Pogue 17:14:15 12/29/05 (6)
- Was any attempt made to prove any listener really had the ability to differentiate among amplifiers? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:34:47 12/30/05 (3)
- The test consumed 19 solid pages of text, charts, and sine wave photos - Dave Pogue 08:09:16 12/30/05 (2)
- I don't care if there were 190 pages -- was ANY attempt made to prove audibility of amplifier differences - Richard BassNut Greene 09:04:59 12/30/05 (1)
- how about 191? - jneutron 10:32:23 12/30/05 (0)
- Thanks again, Dave - Feanor 04:48:27 12/30/05 (1)
- My pleasure - Dave Pogue 05:07:42 12/30/05 (0)
- Richard just got stabbed with his own double-edged sword - kerr 08:03:05 12/29/05 (5)
- kerr, people are going to accuse me of writing YOUR posts just so I have such an easy target to refute - Richard BassNut Greene 09:06:05 12/29/05 (4)
- But don't you see you're shooting down yourself? - kerr 10:06:48 12/29/05 (3)
- Comparing a "test" to similar tests in the past three decades is as objective as one can be - Richard BassNut Greene 08:03:03 12/30/05 (2)
- But your conclusions are anything but! - kerr 09:46:09 12/30/05 (1)
- I questioned the label "DBT" -- and so far it seems that label was misleading - Richard BassNut Greene 10:40:31 12/30/05 (0)
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