Digital has hard-set limitations

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Topic - Inventions that ruined audio - SoundMann 13:22:32 06/29/23 (222)

SONEX and Ikea Poang chairs. Nt - geoffkait 04:31:34 07/13/23 (0)

I never had all that much satisfaction from my HSU - ltman 09:50:21 07/8/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - johndyson10 13:51:45 07/7/23 (1)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - geoffkait 02:50:44 07/8/23 (0)

The computer.... - mkuller 13:47:10 07/5/23 (1)

RE: The computer.... - Todd Krieger 21:16:19 07/5/23 (0)

When audio went subjective - chuck55 19:30:17 07/2/23 (1)

Nonsense. It's better than ever and cheap as chips - Wojciech 20:33:58 07/2/23 (0)

My take - Bill Way 08:13:24 07/1/23 (6)

RE: My take - Todd Krieger 18:51:24 07/1/23 (4)

RE: My take - Bill Way 21:39:37 07/1/23 (3)

RE: My take - Todd Krieger 22:49:56 07/1/23 (2)

RE: My take - SoundMann 00:04:02 07/2/23 (1)

RE: My take - Todd Krieger 23:40:17 07/2/23 (0)

Great perspective, thanks. nt. - MWE 08:29:52 07/1/23 (0)

Bespoke Artisanal Faceplates Inspired by Tiffany & Co. (nt) - reelsmith. 07:04:45 07/1/23 (1)

I'm curious. Which faceplates do you object to? - Simon Templar 23:21:45 07/2/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - hahax@verizon.net 20:48:24 06/30/23 (0)

There Is One Thing Worse than All Of These....... - Todd Krieger 18:12:35 06/30/23 (4)

RE: There Is One Thing Worse than All Of These....... - cfraser 09:25:46 07/2/23 (0)

Combine Auto-Tune with RFI... - peppy m. 03:50:39 07/1/23 (1)

RE: Combine Auto-Tune with RFI... - Todd Krieger 18:53:58 07/1/23 (0)

RE: There Is One Thing Worse than All Of These....... - Analog Scott 18:16:45 06/30/23 (0)

are you any relation to - Story 16:03:48 06/30/23 (0)

Marketing and Bean Counters - emailtim 14:31:59 06/30/23 (0)

Anything Machina Dynamica /nt - Story 14:03:50 06/30/23 (7)

^^^^ +1000 - emailtim 14:30:13 06/30/23 (0)

I'm sure... - acres verde 14:10:23 06/30/23 (5)

RE: I'm sure... - sony6060 10:05:15 07/2/23 (1)

RE: Is this... - acres verde 12:24:55 07/2/23 (0)

I'm sure... - Story 15:58:24 06/30/23 (2)

Exactly... - acres verde 09:27:15 07/1/23 (1)

RE: Exactly... - Story 09:53:04 07/1/23 (0)

Recording! And Radio! - Brian H P 13:53:22 06/30/23 (1)

RE: Recording! And Radio! - SoundMann 16:50:18 06/30/23 (0)

Just curious... - mlsstl 13:47:36 06/30/23 (19)

RE: Just curious... - SoundMann 14:27:19 06/30/23 (18)

RE: Just curious... - Todd Krieger 23:00:24 06/30/23 (17)

"digital switching" density per unit time - Analog Scott 08:47:44 07/1/23 (1)

RE: "digital switching" density per unit time - Todd Krieger 19:09:22 07/1/23 (0)

The "deburring" effect of low-rez, tubes, and vinyl - Feanor 05:05:32 07/1/23 (14)

The dictionary definition of "deburring" works in the audio context - Feanor 04:02:15 07/4/23 (10)

" playback component distortion " has nothing to do with the transport Lazer - Story 04:24:08 07/4/23 (9)

"De-burring" - Inmate51 16:18:44 07/4/23 (3)

Kind of Ironic................ - Todd Krieger 21:35:04 07/5/23 (1)

Pretty much what I meant; also in general ... - Feanor 04:09:14 07/6/23 (0)

How much of an issue is this? - Freo-1 16:51:40 07/4/23 (0)

Lazer. Too funny! Nt - geoffkait 04:59:02 07/4/23 (4)

remember Kiev and Kyiv " what is Kyiv " - Story 03:43:48 07/6/23 (0)

RE: Lazer. Too funny! Nt - pictureguy 23:10:56 07/5/23 (2)

RE: Lazer. Too funny! Nt - Story 04:09:31 07/6/23 (0)

Maybe it's the British spelling. Nt - geoffkait 04:03:45 07/6/23 (0)

What Exactly is "Deburring?" ......... - Todd Krieger 21:10:22 07/1/23 (0)

RE: The "deburring" effect of low-rez, tubes, and vinyl - SoundMann 07:09:09 07/1/23 (1)

Even back in the day, (which I remember well) ... - Feanor 04:08:23 07/4/23 (0)

The Cell Phone - jedrider 12:58:00 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio .... triodes view - trioderob 12:36:58 06/30/23 (1)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio .... triodes view - Todd Krieger 23:05:15 06/30/23 (0)

Every one of your assertions seems at least slightly wrong to me. - peppy m. 11:13:49 06/30/23 (5)

RE: Every one of your assertions seems at least slightly wrong to me. - pictureguy 12:28:30 06/30/23 (0)

" every one of your assortations .............is wrong " ......... - trioderob 12:18:47 06/30/23 (1)

What I said was, "... seems wrong to me." . - peppy m. 16:34:13 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Every one of your assertions seems at least slightly wrong to me. - SoundMann 11:23:02 06/30/23 (1)

Understood. (nt - peppy m. 16:35:27 06/30/23 (0)

Audio Forums? - Edp 09:56:48 06/30/23 (3)

Just the opposite I'd say... - AbeCollins 10:29:33 06/30/23 (1)

Agree 100%... anybody willing to express their two cents gets to... - musetap 11:02:31 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Audio Forums? - Freo-1 10:17:56 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - Basher52 09:15:40 06/30/23 (2)

I tried to stay away. But this is worth noting - Analog Scott 09:38:56 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - SoundMann 09:30:21 06/30/23 (0)

High-end audiophile marketing hype and prices - nt - AbeCollins 08:47:32 06/30/23 (0)

auto-percussion - stan2 08:33:26 06/30/23 (0)

RE: 1) record producers; 2) pentodes and feedback loops - Oldbean2 08:19:48 06/30/23 (1)

RE: 1) record producers; 2) pentodes and feedback loops - SoundMann 08:30:56 06/30/23 (0)

Can't think of any significant ones - E-Stat 05:52:34 06/30/23 (19)

+2... 3?...never was good at math... N/T - musetap 11:05:04 06/30/23 (0)

+1(nt) - Goober58 08:56:00 06/30/23 (0)

+1 Absolutely - AbeCollins 07:31:22 06/30/23 (16)

From strictly a music enjoyment perspective...- - E-Stat 09:12:41 07/1/23 (14)

I set up various playlists........ - AbeCollins 10:41:24 07/1/23 (13)

RE: I set up various playlists........ - E-Stat 11:33:42 07/1/23 (12)

RE: I set up various playlists........ - AbeCollins 11:45:31 07/1/23 (11)

RE: I set up various playlists........ - E-Stat 12:11:18 07/1/23 (10)

RE: I set up various playlists........ - AbeCollins 14:12:12 07/1/23 (9)

When you think about it - E-Stat 16:40:34 07/1/23 (8)

RE: When you think about it - AbeCollins 20:39:26 07/1/23 (7)

Returning home from Chicago - E-Stat 07:29:26 07/4/23 (6)

RE: Returning home from Chicago - AbeCollins 09:01:08 07/4/23 (5)

RE: Returning home from Chicago - E-Stat 09:58:00 07/4/23 (4)

RE: Returning home from Chicago - AbeCollins 09:11:19 07/5/23 (3)

Interesting - E-Stat 09:33:33 07/5/23 (2)

RE: Interesting - AbeCollins 11:47:50 07/5/23 (1)

RE: Interesting - E-Stat 12:24:41 07/5/23 (0)

RE: +1 Absolutely - emailtim 15:12:52 06/30/23 (0)

Vinyl and tubes are filtering mechanisms - Feanor 03:56:11 06/30/23 (65)

RE: Vinyl and tubes are filtering mechanisms - Todd Krieger 22:48:37 06/30/23 (38)

Humm ... yeah, well ... - Feanor 05:00:17 07/1/23 (37)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - Todd Krieger 19:20:57 07/1/23 (3)

Debatable at best - Feanor 05:42:55 07/2/23 (2)

RE: Debatable at best - Todd Krieger 00:55:34 07/15/23 (0)

RE: Debatable at best - Todd Krieger 00:25:31 07/3/23 (0)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - SoundMann 07:06:21 07/1/23 (32)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - AbeCollins 10:53:18 07/1/23 (31)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - SoundMann 11:10:28 07/1/23 (30)

Got it wrong again - Freo-1 11:30:18 07/1/23 (10)

RE: Got it wrong again - SoundMann 11:48:26 07/1/23 (9)

RE: Got it wrong again - Analog Scott 15:48:26 07/1/23 (5)

RE: Got it wrong again - Todd Krieger 09:52:44 07/3/23 (1)

RE: Got it wrong again - Analog Scott 13:28:31 07/3/23 (0)

RE: Got it wrong again - SoundMann 16:44:51 07/1/23 (2)

I got news for you - Analog Scott 18:59:24 07/1/23 (0)

RE: Got it wrong again - SoundMann 17:35:25 07/1/23 (0)

The only thing you do better is troll (Troll Alert) - Freo-1 13:30:43 07/1/23 (2)

RE: The only thing you do better is troll (Troll Alert) - SoundMann 13:44:58 07/1/23 (1)

Now you are using the Anthony Fauci argument? - Freo-1 13:59:20 07/1/23 (0)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - AbeCollins 11:29:20 07/1/23 (18)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - SoundMann 11:39:50 07/1/23 (17)

"I hear it!" - Analog Scott 15:43:26 07/1/23 (14)

RE: "I hear it!" - SoundMann 16:39:37 07/1/23 (13)

RE: "I hear it!" - Analog Scott 19:10:08 07/1/23 (12)

RE: "I hear it!" - SoundMann 00:00:53 07/2/23 (11)

RE: "I hear it!" - Analog Scott 00:53:35 07/2/23 (10)

RE: "I hear it!" - SoundMann 01:05:04 07/2/23 (9)

RE: "I hear it!" - Analog Scott 07:54:58 07/2/23 (8)

RE: "I hear it!" - SoundMann 09:12:10 07/2/23 (7)

RE: "I hear it!" - Analog Scott 13:22:06 07/2/23 (4)

RE: "I hear it!" - SoundMann 13:45:56 07/2/23 (3)

RE: "I hear it!" - Analog Scott 14:16:09 07/2/23 (2)

RE: "I hear it!" - SoundMann 14:31:08 07/2/23 (1)

Oh I shudder in fear at the thought of your verbal lashing! - Analog Scott 15:09:03 07/2/23 (0)

Well, that escalated quickly! - Freo-1 09:24:13 07/2/23 (1)

RE: Well, that escalated quickly! - SoundMann 09:51:21 07/2/23 (0)

RE: Humm ... yeah, well ... - AbeCollins 11:56:34 07/1/23 (1)

Indeed ~nt - Feanor 05:26:24 07/2/23 (0)

RE: Vinyl and tubes are filtering mechanisms - SoundMann 07:17:11 06/30/23 (9)

Please describe your "exhaustive tests" in detail - Feanor 08:47:32 06/30/23 (8)

RE: Please describe your "exhaustive tests" in detail - SoundMann 09:06:47 06/30/23 (7)

Another, "My reference is live music" - Feanor 04:45:16 07/1/23 (6)

RE: Another, "My reference is live music" - Todd Krieger 22:39:57 07/1/23 (0)

And lets not forget -- RE: Another, "My reference is live music" - AbeCollins 07:11:06 07/1/23 (4)

RE: And lets not forget -- RE: Another, "My reference is live music" - Analog Scott 08:18:06 07/1/23 (0)

RE: And lets not forget -- RE: Another, "My reference is live music" - SoundMann 07:39:03 07/1/23 (2)

RE: And lets not forget -- RE: Another, "My reference is live music" - AbeCollins 08:36:17 07/1/23 (0)

No, he didn't make any assumptions. - Analog Scott 08:23:28 07/1/23 (0)

"You don't have to like digital" - geoffkait 04:50:07 06/30/23 (15)

Well that's obvious !!! - Feanor 08:46:11 06/30/23 (0)

I very much like digital. It's fantastic! - AbeCollins 07:04:29 06/30/23 (13)

RE: I very much like digital. It's fantastic! - Analog Scott 10:13:59 06/30/23 (2)

Is that last paragraph unique or your new Default Signature Line?... - musetap 08:41:56 07/1/23 (1)

RE: Is that last paragraph unique or your new Default Signature Line?... - Analog Scott 20:13:07 07/1/23 (0)

RE: I very much like digital. It's fantastic! - SoundMann 07:25:12 06/30/23 (9)

Old man clinging faithfully ? - AbeCollins 07:51:22 06/30/23 (8)

RE: Old man clinging faithfully ? - SoundMann 08:26:37 06/30/23 (7)

Lots of "propers" there. You forgot "proper amount of cash" ;-) - AbeCollins 08:40:42 06/30/23 (6)

RE: Lots of "propers" there. You forgot "proper amount of cash" ;-) - Sibelius 12:28:49 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Lots of "propers" there. You forgot "proper amount of cash" ;-) - SoundMann 08:49:46 06/30/23 (4)

By who's opinion is that the current vinyl playback benchmark ? - AbeCollins 10:25:40 06/30/23 (3)

RE: By who's opinion is that the current vinyl playback benchmark ? - SoundMann 10:43:07 06/30/23 (2)

Peer reviewed finding? You just contradicted yourself.... - AbeCollins 11:26:59 06/30/23 (1)

RE: Peer reviewed finding? You just contradicted yourself.... - SoundMann 11:28:23 06/30/23 (0)

Cassette playback isn't susceptible to the same issues as digital playback. It just isn't. - geoffkait 03:08:40 06/30/23 (3)

Now hold on just a second ! - chuck55 20:07:25 07/2/23 (0)

RE: Cassette playback isn't susceptible to the same issues as digital playback. It just isn't. - Todd Krieger 22:36:59 06/30/23 (0)

True. Just hiss, wow, flutter, tape stretching, dirty heads, cracked belts, plasticky squeaks, etc. - AbeCollins 08:16:06 06/30/23 (0)

Pitch correction. nt - hcman 22:02:02 06/29/23 (0)

RE: The problem with opinion pieces like these is, - B. Scarpia 19:47:10 06/29/23 (0)

an extremely controversial thread - I love it :) ...... - trioderob 19:09:05 06/29/23 (3)

Pot, meet kettle. (nt) - reelsmith. 12:40:19 06/30/23 (0)

I'd do it but it's just another gumpy old man post.... - AbeCollins 20:57:07 06/29/23 (0)

RE: an extremely controversial thread - I love it :) ...... - SoundMann 19:11:34 06/29/23 (0)

Excessive multi-miking (nt) - kuma 17:41:46 06/29/23 (1)

RE: Excessive multi-miking (nt) - SoundMann 17:44:30 06/29/23 (0)

Electricity... N/T - musetap 17:24:26 06/29/23 (2)

Solution - AbeCollins 20:59:38 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Electricity... N/T - SoundMann 17:34:40 06/29/23 (0)

1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - Freo-1 16:37:53 06/29/23 (25)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - SoundMann 17:21:37 06/29/23 (24)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - emailtim 00:37:01 06/30/23 (15)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - SoundMann 07:11:09 06/30/23 (14)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - emailtim 10:12:01 06/30/23 (13)

Digital has hard-set limitations - SoundMann 06/30/2310:31:22 06/30/23 (12)

Perhaps? Such... tempered modesty amongst eight billion... - musetap 08:35:36 07/1/23 (0)

Lesson learned, do NOT drink Diet Coke while reading AA posts - Analog Scott 13:18:58 06/30/23 (2)

RE: Lesson learned, do NOT drink Diet Coke while reading AA posts - emailtim 13:27:02 06/30/23 (1)

RE: Lesson learned, do NOT drink Diet Coke while reading AA posts - Analog Scott 13:30:43 06/30/23 (0)

WTF? Are you now Mark Waldrep? - Freo-1 12:24:27 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Digital has hard-set limitations - emailtim 10:44:50 06/30/23 (5)

hate to nit pick but... - Analog Scott 13:27:21 06/30/23 (2)

RE: hate to nit pick but... - emailtim 13:47:52 06/30/23 (1)

RE: hate to nit pick but... - Analog Scott 15:21:19 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Digital has hard-set limitations - SoundMann 11:19:35 06/30/23 (1)

So, no thesis and supporting published data repeatable by others ? ? - emailtim 13:18:31 06/30/23 (0)

Please do.... - AbeCollins 10:34:43 06/30/23 (0)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - Sibelius 20:03:12 06/29/23 (1)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - SoundMann 20:22:43 06/29/23 (0)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - Inmate51 18:02:41 06/29/23 (5)

Leave me the **** out of this - Analog Scott 21:57:20 06/29/23 (0)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - Freo-1 19:11:07 06/29/23 (0)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - SoundMann 18:16:58 06/29/23 (2)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - Freo-1 19:09:42 06/29/23 (1)

RE: 1954 Called, it wants it hardware back - SoundMann 19:14:35 06/29/23 (0)

What is a "air-field coil speaker"? nt - Tre' 16:04:15 06/29/23 (2)

RE: What is a "air-field coil speaker"? nt - SoundMann 16:08:33 06/29/23 (1)

Do you mean a field coil speaker? nt - Tre' 16:30:48 06/29/23 (0)

Can't argue with your personal tastes or feelings, but I'd suggest that... - peppy m. 15:59:14 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - geoffkait 13:24:41 06/29/23 (15)

2 peas in their very own pod - Story 14:13:46 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - SoundMann 14:02:50 06/29/23 (13)

"Many have considered me to be another Michael Fremer" - Chris from Lafayette 00:56:51 06/30/23 (0)

Did you ever consider that vinyl sounds preferable because it adds imperfections? - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 16:09:20 06/29/23 (6)

RE: Did you ever consider that vinyl sounds preferable because it adds imperfections? - Tre' 16:54:07 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Did you ever consider that vinyl sounds preferable because it adds imperfections? - SoundMann 16:36:17 06/29/23 (4)

RE: Did you ever consider that vinyl sounds preferable because it adds imperfections? - Tre' 17:09:27 06/29/23 (3)

RE: Did you ever consider that vinyl sounds preferable because it adds imperfections? - SoundMann 17:23:08 06/29/23 (2)

He was right - the digital 'errors' are there but masked out by the more benign ones from vinyl (nt) - 13th Duke of Wymbourne 20:51:16 06/29/23 (1)

Its a similar process when digital playback is humanized by FM transmission - Wojciech 22:08:55 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - Tre' 14:48:14 06/29/23 (3)

Doubt it... - musetap 17:34:06 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - SoundMann 15:40:37 06/29/23 (0)

RE: Inventions that ruined audio - SoundMann 15:38:40 06/29/23 (0)

Tape is a natural medium, it beathes - geoffkait 14:17:06 06/29/23 (0)

Follow Ups

Digital has hard-set limitations - SoundMann 06/30/2310:31:22 06/30/23 (12)

Perhaps? Such... tempered modesty amongst eight billion... - musetap 08:35:36 07/1/23 (0)

Lesson learned, do NOT drink Diet Coke while reading AA posts - Analog Scott 13:18:58 06/30/23 (2)

RE: Lesson learned, do NOT drink Diet Coke while reading AA posts - emailtim 13:27:02 06/30/23 (1)

RE: Lesson learned, do NOT drink Diet Coke while reading AA posts - Analog Scott 13:30:43 06/30/23 (0)

WTF? Are you now Mark Waldrep? - Freo-1 12:24:27 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Digital has hard-set limitations - emailtim 10:44:50 06/30/23 (5)

hate to nit pick but... - Analog Scott 13:27:21 06/30/23 (2)

RE: hate to nit pick but... - emailtim 13:47:52 06/30/23 (1)

RE: hate to nit pick but... - Analog Scott 15:21:19 06/30/23 (0)

RE: Digital has hard-set limitations - SoundMann 11:19:35 06/30/23 (1)

So, no thesis and supporting published data repeatable by others ? ? - emailtim 13:18:31 06/30/23 (0)

Please do.... - AbeCollins 10:34:43 06/30/23 (0)

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