"Half of what an economy car sells for." Hmm... in 1938 the world-beater Carnegie Phonograph sold for $5000...

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Topic - Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. - clarkjohnsen 11:35:12 09/28/07 (136)

RE:And yet - Dr. S 21:58:24 09/29/07 (1)

So be that way. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:45:51 09/30/07 (0)

Mag subs are an indication of a business sector health? - cdb 18:04:46 09/29/07 (0)

Hi-end audio is WAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY too difficult for the average person to bother with - chuck55 12:12:00 09/29/07 (5)

Different than sports cars - Porsche vs Ferrari? - mkuller 13:10:10 09/29/07 (2)

Yes because sound is invisible - chuck55 13:50:10 09/29/07 (1)

It's just a question of priorities - what you want to spend your $ on...(nt) - mkuller 16:48:11 09/29/07 (0)

"No such thing as right or wrong." Wrong! There's polarity. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:16:22 09/29/07 (1)

Hey, that's a start! (nt) - chuck55 13:51:32 09/29/07 (0)

RE: How about this? - Dr. S 08:23:43 09/29/07 (15)

"Put more than ONE DAMN chair in your listening room." I've always had six or so. - clarkjohnsen 09:24:57 09/29/07 (3)

RE: I am bent? Wow, coming from you - Dr. S 14:14:44 09/29/07 (2)

"I am bent?" "Go ahead and whine Clark." Never said the former, and... - clarkjohnsen 12:43:11 09/30/07 (1)

RE: Because I object to this constant doom and gloom, I am bent? - Dr. S 21:35:00 09/30/07 (0)

Ok..but look out for the "bad news" - ontrack2@gmail.com 08:43:59 09/29/07 (10)

RE: Hey, they used to mix for AM radio - Dr. S 14:15:53 09/29/07 (0)

RE: Ok..but look out for the "bad news" - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:31:25 09/29/07 (8)

RE: Ok..but look out for the "bad news" - morricab 01:28:21 10/2/07 (1)

RE: Ok..but look out for the "bad news" - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 09:54:41 10/2/07 (0)

RE: Wow, we agree - Dr. S 14:16:55 09/29/07 (1)

If it happens again we'll have to arrange a group hug! :0) [nt] - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 05:48:06 09/30/07 (0)

Motown test, ja, - ontrack2@gmail.com 10:10:23 09/29/07 (3)

I have a UK pressing of the Supremes that is simply... supreme! nt - clarkjohnsen 12:09:11 09/29/07 (2)

RE: I have a UK pressing of the Supremes that is simply... supreme! nt - ontrack2@gmail.com 12:32:45 09/29/07 (1)

It can go pretty much either way. nt - clarkjohnsen 13:46:31 09/29/07 (0)

Yeah, so what's your point? You're mixing apples with oranges! - Raiderman 00:59:01 09/29/07 (2)

The point was about decreasing *hobbyist* interest, audio and video. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:21:41 09/29/07 (0)

High End and Home Theater - rico 04:44:20 09/29/07 (0)

I totally disgree - Frihed89 23:43:29 09/28/07 (1)

Would you were right. But I'd say, digitization is weakening high-end audio. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:19:30 09/29/07 (0)

I'll Say It Again..... - Todd Krieger 19:52:06 09/28/07 (25)

I think you are missing the reality of the times.... This is a paradigm shift - tubesforever 13:43:27 09/29/07 (1)

Home Theater...... Digital Audio's One Bright Spot........ - Todd Krieger 14:28:13 09/29/07 (0)

RE: I'll Say It Again..... - TS 09:53:51 09/29/07 (1)

"You can listen to music almost anywhere." Yep. Even in the elevator... nt - clarkjohnsen 12:17:47 09/29/07 (0)

"The digitization of audio has made people less-interested in music." And for confirmation: - clarkjohnsen 07:58:40 09/29/07 (2)

Only Partially Agree with the Article...... - Todd Krieger 09:07:14 09/29/07 (1)

"this could be the first digital source that crosses the threshold of conveying the analog message." Hmm... - clarkjohnsen 09:28:04 09/29/07 (0)

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...baloney... - musetap 23:19:44 09/28/07 (13)

RE: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...baloney... - Todd Krieger 00:13:19 09/29/07 (12)

RE: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...baloney... - suretyguy 10:22:51 09/29/07 (0)

RE: Ahhhhhhhhhhhh...baloney... - theaudiohobby 02:40:06 09/29/07 (10)

We Should Disregard Great Music??? - Todd Krieger 08:14:58 09/29/07 (7)

RE: We Should Disregard Great Music??? - theaudiohobby 15:17:25 09/29/07 (0)

John Atkinson once wrote that today's pop music has a sell-by date. - clarkjohnsen 12:11:44 09/29/07 (5)

RE: Really - Dr. S 22:01:16 09/29/07 (3)

RE: Really - morricab 01:41:47 10/2/07 (0)

Now you're just being silly. Are you ill? nt - clarkjohnsen 12:46:41 09/30/07 (1)

RE: I am not sure I can have a civil exchange ... - Dr. S 15:11:53 09/30/07 (0)

ALL pop music has a sell-by date. Play an Edison disc for proof!...N/T - musetap 12:32:10 09/29/07 (0)

"it is pure nostalgia" Actually, it is less than that... - SE 06:47:08 09/29/07 (1)

Yup...... - Todd Krieger 08:41:00 09/29/07 (0)

RE: I'll Say It Again.....(Long response) - John N 20:16:50 09/28/07 (3)

Many excellent points, especially... - clarkjohnsen 07:55:30 09/29/07 (0)

RE: I'll Say It Again.....(Long response) - Olde Bulldogge 20:57:35 09/28/07 (1)

RE: I'll Say It Again.....(Long response) - suretyguy 10:03:44 09/29/07 (0)

Break this down - mt10425 18:50:30 09/28/07 (5)

RE: Break this down - unclestu52 19:43:31 09/28/07 (4)

RE: Break this down - Todd Krieger 14:59:25 09/29/07 (0)

"most have a mere handful of recordings." - musetap 23:24:01 09/28/07 (2)

Hate to say it - unclestu52 23:33:40 09/28/07 (1)

RE: Hate to say it - musetap 12:29:08 09/29/07 (0)

I could never figure out where Tweeter was coming from. - Dave Pogue 16:42:07 09/28/07 (2)

I've Heard of "Tweeter", But..... - Todd Krieger 20:03:44 09/28/07 (1)

RE:Interesting - Travis 13:26:44 09/29/07 (0)

Hobbies - RonPil 15:29:49 09/28/07 (0)

Somethings left out of the article, are the overall decline in jobs & the falling value of the dollar. - gme109 14:49:46 09/28/07 (2)

Economic Hard Times in the Past Was Never Such a Hindrance....... - Todd Krieger 23:33:26 09/28/07 (0)

couldn't agree more... - coffeequeen 15:43:02 09/28/07 (0)

Since yours is a double posting... - tlyyra 13:21:54 09/28/07 (30)

RE: Actually, subjective audio journalism arose in the vacuum - Dr. S 08:34:06 09/29/07 (3)

RE: Actually, subjective audio journalism arose in the vacuum - tlyyra 05:32:56 09/30/07 (1)

RE: I think you've missed the main point here. - Dr. S 12:09:44 09/30/07 (0)

And let's never forget what a radical departure JGH's "Tested in the Home" was, from tested on the bench. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:15:14 09/29/07 (0)

Nah.... - Sordidman 17:51:45 09/28/07 (0)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - andy19191 15:37:20 09/28/07 (2)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - tlyyra 05:46:07 09/30/07 (0)

How do you sell valve MP3 hardware to audiophiles? - E-Stat 09:36:05 09/29/07 (0)

I find that reasoning unsupportable. - John Marks 14:24:06 09/28/07 (10)

Nero Fiddles as Rome Burns - Dan Banquer 05:27:51 10/1/07 (0)

RE: I find that reasoning unsupportable. - tlyyra 06:04:47 09/30/07 (0)

Petula Clark: "Down scale, everyone's going DOWN SCALE..." nt - clarkjohnsen 12:25:21 09/29/07 (0)

Astute observation- I agree NT - lancelot 07:05:20 09/29/07 (0)

RE: I find that reasoning unsupportable. - andy19191 16:00:29 09/28/07 (2)

Petula - John Marks 09:26:18 09/29/07 (1)

"Audio started out as the publication of the Audio Engineering Society." Not really. - clarkjohnsen 12:23:54 09/29/07 (0)

I find your support unreasonable - Richard BassNut Greene 15:09:47 09/28/07 (2)

Some interesting observations, but... - robert young 18:01:39 09/28/07 (1)

You're saying, essentially, to most people a picture is worth a thousand notes. [Sigh] nt - clarkjohnsen 07:43:34 09/29/07 (0)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 13:42:25 09/28/07 (10)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - tlyyra 13:59:45 09/28/07 (9)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 02:31:18 09/29/07 (5)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - tlyyra 06:12:34 09/30/07 (3)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 08:57:04 09/30/07 (2)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - tlyyra 09:31:25 09/30/07 (1)

RE: Since yours is a double posting... - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:05:27 10/2/07 (0)

Indeed. Just look how that woebegone article in Stereo Review denigrating cables is still referenced. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:39:59 09/29/07 (0)

Where does it come from? - QuadTodd 18:50:38 09/28/07 (1)

Not to neglect the naysayers on the net -- as in, right here! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:38:24 09/29/07 (0)

Oh, you mean Stereophile then? -t - Sordidman 17:49:09 09/28/07 (0)

If that's true... - Jim Smith 13:20:22 09/28/07 (5)

RE: If that's true... - theaudiohobby 02:42:10 09/29/07 (2)

RE: If that's true... - morricab 01:50:35 10/2/07 (1)

RE: If that's true... - theaudiohobby 09:03:06 10/4/07 (0)

RE: If that's true... - alan m. kafton 17:03:45 09/28/07 (1)

It's not that gloom prevails everywhere! nt - clarkjohnsen 07:36:53 09/29/07 (0)

We need another article to explain it? - mkuller 13:15:10 09/28/07 (1)

"Companies that haven't changed with it will cease to exist." - musetap 13:41:14 09/28/07 (0)

RE: Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. - rico 12:50:34 09/28/07 (1)

Natural Sound was always good to me, too. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:35:41 09/29/07 (0)

RE: Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. - Awe-d-o-file 12:35:50 09/28/07 (1)

"They don't know better." Wasn't that the very point? - clarkjohnsen 07:34:43 09/29/07 (0)

RE: Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 12:35:48 09/28/07 (4)

"Hunted down by iPod wearing hoodies" who'll be chanting from articles in the AES Journal proving... - clarkjohnsen 08:03:43 09/29/07 (1)

Being that you are a lifetime - unclestu52 20:43:30 09/29/07 (0)

RE: properly cleaned and gutted - LousyTourist 13:49:30 09/28/07 (1)

RE: The Japanese fresh water eel, Unagi - Dr. S 08:36:48 09/29/07 (0)

several thoughts - musiclistener 12:32:02 09/28/07 (2)

Several More Thoughts - Bob Neill 14:26:32 09/28/07 (1)

"Half of what an economy car sells for." Hmm... in 1938 the world-beater Carnegie Phonograph sold for $5000... - clarkjohnsen 09/29/0707:27:21 09/29/07 (0)

RE: Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. - sailor321 12:11:31 09/28/07 (1)

RE: Clearest explanation yet, of the vanishing market for high-end. Read it and weep. - Abe 12:24:11 09/28/07 (0)

I'm not so sure the explanations metioned, are good examples of a vanishing market. - gme109 12:06:50 09/28/07 (13)

our culture changed... - jdouglas51 13:06:30 09/28/07 (1)

RE: our culture changed... - andy19191 16:14:30 09/28/07 (0)

The main point is that oldtime hobbyist interest is way down. nt - clarkjohnsen 12:24:55 09/28/07 (7)

That may be the point, but I'm not convinced it's true. We're all still here, just not accounted for. * - gme109 12:30:45 09/28/07 (6)

Would it were true; but let's ask JA how he's strived to increase SP circulation, and the results. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:23:26 09/29/07 (0)

Never doubt the word - unclestu52 12:43:02 09/28/07 (4)

ask any tube manufacturer.... - TomLarson 12:51:38 09/28/07 (1)

RE: ask any tube manufacturer.... - unclestu52 13:12:34 09/28/07 (0)

Dusty from Channel Islands Audio, who mostly sells factory direct, just moved into a new larger facility. - gme109 12:51:22 09/28/07 (1)

And exceptions still prove rules nt - TomLarson 12:54:13 09/28/07 (0)

" I'm sure I'm not the only one." You certainly aren't. I hardly ever read a physical audio magazine... - musetap 12:16:00 09/28/07 (2)

RE: " I'm sure I'm not the only one." You certainly aren't. I hardly ever read a physical audio magazine... - TomLarson 12:56:08 09/28/07 (1)

RE:"those hobbies look pretty robust". So does ours... - rick_m 11:17:18 09/29/07 (0)

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"Half of what an economy car sells for." Hmm... in 1938 the world-beater Carnegie Phonograph sold for $5000... - clarkjohnsen 09/29/0707:27:21 09/29/07 (0)

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