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RE: "Real science has no agenda"

"On the contrary,real science has a very clear agenda. Investigate and research objective reality as objectively as possible and remove human error as much as possible."

That's just a minute part of science..... And, for example, some people fear flying, they don't trust the technology and safety of flight..... Even though it has been proven safe......

"Denial of science is acommon phenomenon. It isnot dogmatic to callit out forwhat it is. When you have a substantial body of scientific research that *all* leads to the same conclusion there comes a point where those conclusions fall into the catagory of 'scientific fact.' It isn't dogma to say that the existance of gravity is a scientific fact."

Once again, there are certain elements of science that have been resolved to factuality...... This isn't where the "science denial" accusations are taking place..... They're taking place in which "facts" haven't come close to being resolved...... Yet those claiming "science" are treating this as if the facts have been resolved...... Audio cables happens to be a part of this. (The treatment of COVID is maybe the most blatant example of this.)

I mean..... People can readily detect Auto-Tune in a recording..... But I've yet to see a device or method to detect it in a recording..... I guess someone will eventually come up with a method to detect it scientifically, but as of right now, to my knowledge, it doesn't exist.

I don't think there are methods to scientifically measure sonic differences in cables either...... That doesn't necessarily mean these sonic differences don't exist.

"We can apply the same thing to many of the findings in the field of psychoacoustics. The parameters and thresholds of human hearing have been thoroughly tested and established. The common audiophile myth that golden eared audiophiles can hear things that can't be measured is absurd."

You're mistaking hearing sensitivity with ear training...... Ear training is what makes not only a good audiophile, but a good musician, a good conductor...... You can take a great Furtwangler Beethoven recording, and then take a recording of the same piece by a high school orchestra..... They certainly sound different..... The ear training is what makes one appreciate the Furtwangler...... Being able to pick up the nuances in music is what often makes the difference between a good audio component or cable to a great one.

And by the way, do we have a measurement that can determine scientifically that the Furtwangler is unequivocally a better performance than the one by the high school orchestra?

We can conveniently bury differences in "science"..... But as what Thomas Dolby once wrote in a song, we shouldn't let ourselves be blinded (or deafened) by it.

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