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In Reply to: The US is no longer in the top 25 for individual freedom posted by RGA on February 15, 2021 at 17:10:33:
I see what you mean and don't doubt what your sources say. But I might add one thing.A society is free in proportion to the ability of its members to exercise self-control. A people with little self control will need more 'policiing'. In a perfect society, you wouldn't need police since everyone would want to behave themselves. And would do so. Mechanisms other than vioience would be needed to mediate the inevitable disputes.
The politics of me-firstism from the right AND left just makes it worse.
Don't forget to ADD that the US Incarceration Rate is among the highest on the planet.
If you look at the LINK, It would be interesting to chart the politics of those states having a HIGHER than USA Average incarcertaion rate V the remainder. US rates very highly by this measure, which is to say, poorly for personal freedom....which people seem unable to cope with.
I wonder where China lies on this measure?
Too much is never enough
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- RE: You really HAD to srir that nest :) - RGA 06:56:59 02/12/21 (48)
- Add to your list Nazi Germany, USSR, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania... etc, etc, - Victor Khomenko 07:03:44 02/12/21 (47)
- RE: Add to your list Nazi Germany, USSR, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania... etc, etc, - RGA 07:09:06 02/12/21 (46)
- How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - Victor Khomenko 07:24:22 02/12/21 (45)
- This is merely a dislpay of your disconnect with reality - Analog Scott 12:51:40 02/14/21 (0)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - RGA 08:32:31 02/12/21 (36)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - pictureguy 18:36:22 02/13/21 (35)
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- Canada implemented a points-based system in 1967 - Jay Buridan 15:47:29 02/14/21 (0)
- RE: Move to Canada - pictureguy 20:18:12 02/13/21 (19)
- You will NOT be arrested for having a ccw in your wallet - Victor Khomenko 05:28:08 02/14/21 (3)
- RE: You will NOT be arrested for having a ccw in your wallet - pictureguy 11:27:07 02/14/21 (2)
- There is no ccw in Canada - Victor Khomenko 12:03:56 02/14/21 (1)
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- RE: Move to Canada - RGA 00:11:21 02/14/21 (14)
- RE: Move to Canada - pictureguy 11:25:29 02/14/21 (13)
- The US is no longer in the top 25 for individual freedom - RGA 17:10:33 02/15/21 (1)
- RE: The US is no longer in the top 25 for individual freedom - pictureguy 02/16/2111:31:34 02/16/21 (0)
- Consider Georgia - Victor Khomenko 12:06:25 02/14/21 (10)
- RE: Consider Georgia - Bill the K 04:21:45 03/5/21 (0)
- RE: Consider Georgia - pictureguy 12:33:57 02/14/21 (0)
- RE: Consider Georgia - rivervalley817 12:27:16 02/14/21 (7)
- RE: Consider Georgia - pictureguy 12:45:01 02/14/21 (6)
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- RE: Move to Canada - rivervalley817 20:11:40 02/13/21 (5)
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- RE: Move to Canada - rivervalley817 20:53:44 02/13/21 (1)
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- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - rivervalley817 18:54:17 02/13/21 (6)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - pictureguy 19:14:16 02/13/21 (5)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - rivervalley817 19:46:57 02/13/21 (4)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - pictureguy 20:28:14 02/13/21 (3)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - rivervalley817 20:48:38 02/13/21 (2)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - pictureguy 21:41:43 02/13/21 (1)
- RE: How funny it is, that the only people who extall the "virtues" of socialist syphilis don't live under it - rivervalley817 21:55:47 02/13/21 (0)
- Classic oversimplification. The US is a democratic republic - tinear 07:51:48 02/12/21 (6)
- A system that bails out GM, Chrysler, Wall Street brokerages, etc. - Jay Buridan 16:59:05 02/13/21 (4)
- +1. nt - tinear 06:47:56 02/14/21 (0)
- RE: A system that bails out GM, Chrysler, Wall Street brokerages, etc. - rivervalley817 17:58:14 02/13/21 (2)
- Top Tier AKA don't tax me but socialize my losses - Jay Buridan 15:59:38 02/14/21 (1)
- RE: Top Tier AKA don't tax me but socialize my losses - rivervalley817 19:41:19 02/14/21 (0)
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- You don't believe in public education or Medicare? nt - tinear 07:44:08 02/12/21 (21)
- Both are badly broken. I hope you manage better examples. nt - Victor Khomenko 09:53:55 02/12/21 (20)
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- My problem - RGA 17:34:59 02/14/21 (0)
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- Your confusion is telling - Victor Khomenko 11:35:06 02/12/21 (16)
- Nice dodge. No confusion on my part. You failed to cite any examples - Analog Scott 21:18:38 02/12/21 (0)
- RE: Your confusion is telling - rivervalley817 11:46:45 02/12/21 (14)
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- RE: Medicare is... - rivervalley817 19:28:47 02/12/21 (2)
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- RE: "with services provided via private contractor" Where is the confusion? - rivervalley817 14:51:55 02/12/21 (6)
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- You were appealing to reverse a decision; gov should apologize before the finding? - tinear 08:53:30 02/14/21 (0)
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- RE: You really HAD to srir that nest :) - RGA 03:58:28 02/11/21 (0)
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- So, RGA - how do you judge success or failure? Amount of money? [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 16:41:58 02/15/21 (5)
- RE: So, RGA - how do you judge success or failure? Amount of money? [nt] - RGA 17:37:10 02/15/21 (1)
- RE: So, RGA - how do you judge success or failure? Amount of money? [nt] - rivervalley817 17:52:18 02/15/21 (0)
- RE: So, RGA - how do you judge success or failure? Amount of money? [nt] - Wojciech 17:36:30 02/15/21 (2)
- RE: So, RGA - how do you judge success or failure? Amount of money? [nt] - RGA 03:02:19 02/16/21 (1)
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- Wow, those points will go through his head. - tinear 16:38:12 02/8/21 (30)
- RE: Wow, those points will go through his head. - RGA 18:51:30 02/8/21 (29)
- Thanks, RGA. +100. Nt. - MWE 08:23:43 02/11/21 (0)
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- Yup - however. . . - Chris from Lafayette 12:30:26 02/9/21 (24)
- RE: Yup - however. . . - tinear 05:58:34 02/10/21 (23)
- Can you spell T-H-R-E-A-T-S (to his son), or. . . - Chris from Lafayette 01:07:15 02/11/21 (22)
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- So. . . just what do you think Eisenhower was warning about. . . - Chris from Lafayette 11:18:16 02/11/21 (0)
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- Sure - I'll provide that link as long as you can provide. . . - Chris from Lafayette 09:28:01 02/11/21 (16)
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- The Justice Department is pursuing. . . - Chris from Lafayette 20:25:44 02/14/21 (13)
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- RE: At least it wasn't gnomic [nt] ;-) - rivervalley817 10:35:42 02/15/21 (3)
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- RE: You sound as if you've lost your sense of humor. Or irony. - rivervalley817 11:42:10 02/15/21 (1)
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- "this is really an unfortunate post".... - TWB 01:14:07 02/15/21 (6)
- RE: "this is really an unfortunate post".... - rivervalley817 10:28:41 02/15/21 (5)
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- RE: I knew it - you ARE deep state! ;-) - rivervalley817 12:11:34 02/15/21 (3)
- Ah - feigning ignorance now I see - Chris from Lafayette 12:39:48 02/15/21 (2)
- RE: Ah - feigning ignorance now I see - rivervalley817 13:29:02 02/15/21 (1)
- And so. . . you're reduced to arguing via another gnomic post - Chris from Lafayette 16:34:19 02/15/21 (0)
- Thank YOU! (nt) - TWB 09:34:58 02/11/21 (0)
- RE: Can you spell T-H-R-E-A-T-S (to his son), or. . . - dean_martin 05:00:45 02/11/21 (1)
- Indeed, I do not disagree at all with what you say [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 09:15:02 02/11/21 (0)
- RE: Wow, those points will go through his head. - tinear 06:26:04 02/9/21 (0)
- RE: Wow, those points will go through his head. - rivervalley817 19:14:30 02/8/21 (0)
- RE: Best tweets to a Hollywood socialist . . . - dean_martin 12:07:28 02/8/21 (0)
- No Hollywood, no Reagan. Hmmmm... nt - tinear 09:13:16 02/8/21 (9)
- Or John Wayne - And for every Robert De Niro, there's a Jon Voight (Well almost!) [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:16:30 02/8/21 (8)
- And I just got through working with Job Voight on the Ronald Reagan biopic - Analog Scott 19:48:43 02/9/21 (2)
- That's great - glad to hear you're still getting good gigs! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 01:05:45 02/10/21 (1)
- It was great until I got covid from the local covid deniers managing the hotel - Analog Scott 04:39:29 02/11/21 (0)
- And Scarlett Johanssen. To the right of Marjorie T G. nt - tinear 12:36:34 02/8/21 (4)
- Wow - I did not know about that! - Scarlett's still a honey though! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:42:55 02/8/21 (3)
- Tinear must be joking nt - Rod H. 14:06:23 02/9/21 (2)
- OK - That's it - he's pulled my leg one too many times! - Chris from Lafayette 18:45:25 02/9/21 (1)
- Sorry! nt - tinear 06:02:44 02/10/21 (0)
- They're ALL socialists in Hollyweird! - TWB 19:06:37 02/7/21 (4)
- Is that the first or the second qualification... - Victor Khomenko 08:14:33 02/12/21 (2)
- RE: Is that the first or the second qualification... - RGA 06:02:43 02/21/21 (0)
- ROTFLOL! True THAT! (NT) - TWB 08:18:41 02/12/21 (0)
- RE: They're ALL socialists in Hollyweird! - rivervalley817 19:25:36 02/7/21 (0)
- RE: Best tweets to a Hollywood socialist . . . - rivervalley817 15:33:17 02/7/21 (3)
- None - Jay Buridan 12:22:39 02/8/21 (2)
- Yeah, but in capitalism - tinear 12:38:10 02/8/21 (1)
- RE: Yeah, but in capitalism - rivervalley817 14:18:45 02/8/21 (0)
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