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RE: It's not complicated: lots of people like distortion

Posted by RGA (R) on January 11, 2022 at 00:32:59

In Reply to: RE: It's not complicated: lots of people like distortion posted by RV817 on January 10, 2022 at 18:09:56:

He was being a dick to me. I let a few posts go by but he thinks he knows everything about everything he has NEVER tried.

I have to sum up all of my patience for the classroom. I have little left for "get off my lawn" boomers who can't admit they might possibly be wrong about anything.

I posted on a forum that I preferred an OTO to a Bryston - another poster said he heard the OTO vs a Bryston and preferred the latter - hey no problem - you came you heard you didn't like - So be it.

It's why Magazines have everything covered - nothing gets a bad review because the HE/SET and tubes will be sent to Art Dudley or Herb and me and Fred Crowder. The SS 1000 watt stuff will be sent to Fremer or JA or KR.

Generally everything those guys like I think is mostly unlistenable dredge. And if they liked what Art or Herb liked well they'd own it.

The best way to know which "camp" you're in is to at the very least try some of it. It's not like the moon is being asked fo these people. If your town doesn't have whatever is considered the best SET amplifiers (Audio Note) then maybe they sell a Line Magnetic or a Cary or if they don't have SETs maybe they sell other fine tube amps like a Shindo or Jadis or Melody Valve Audio. Something that somewhat represents some of the better examples of the technology being dumped on unheard.

I went to the trouble of listening to class D and to my surprise I enjoy it - bought some monoblocks and this was a technology that sounded like ass to me for over a decade.

I go out and listen to Emm Labs, dCS, Chord, Bricasti, and I continue to try Magnepan, and even B&W speakers that have not "done it for me."

Perhaps my patience is like a father and a child - try the broccoli kid. "Wah Wah Wah - no I read an article that says it tastes bad wah, wah wah."

Just try the damn thing and taste it for yourself.

I mean he did bother to try a Sonic Frontiers - an "okay" tube amp brand - nothing special and IMO a little too veiled compared to an Audio Note M1 preamp. But I get that people like a more coloured stereotypical tube sound like an SF over a far more neutral and transparent tube amp like an M1.

I owned a Sugden A48B SS amplifier that was more tube-sounding than Audio Note on the stereotype valve presentation front.

Back in the day two $1300 Canadian integrated amps using the same valve complement were compared back to back - Jolida 302 was warm and thick and veiled - very pleasant. The Antique Sound Lab MG1003DT was neutral transparent thin and much more SS. A case can be made for either - I would take the Jolida in that case because that's sorta why you buy a tube amp - whereas the ASL amp sorta sounded like a Rotel so just get the Rotel and you don't have to deal with the hassle of tubes.

Maybe the graphs will tell you that but not all of these amps are measured. I don't like every Audio Note amp or speaker either - it depends. This is the audio hobby - it requires "listening"

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