In Reply to: Erm... posted by Scrith on January 17, 2008 at 15:53:42:
HowdyWe're probably going around in circles, but there's effectively no difference between synchronous data delivery and asynchronous data delivery IF the DAC is the clock master (and also if both provide reliable data.) In both cases there is a local buffer whose output is clocked by the (local) master clock delivering the low jitter output.
As I said these DACs have been around for a long time. (I have more than one and that's one of the ways that essentially all progear can operate.)
If you had said that USB versions of them were a recent innovation I'd agree, but you didn't qualify your statement. I'm glad that a more or less standard interface (USB, with proper drivers) will allow for more jitter free operation than the common consumer interfaces of S/PDIF, AES/EBU, etc. But there are plenty of other less standard interfaces out there which get the same results and it's too bad that they haven't been used more widely to help with the jitter problem for more common consumer gear for the last couple of decades.
-Ted
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Follow Ups
- RE: Erm... - Ted Smith 01/17/0816:20:33 01/17/08 (49)
- Light at the end of the tunnel? - Scrith 18:41:45 01/17/08 (48)
- RE: Light at the end of the tunnel? - Ted Smith 19:25:44 01/17/08 (47)
- Could we have some discussion of what all this means, sonically? Otherwise... - clarkjohnsen 23:35:29 01/17/08 (38)
- OK - Less jitter is good (and a biased thread summary) - Ted Smith 23:51:30 01/17/08 (37)
- "The devil is in the details for any system to have superior sonics." All well and good, but... - clarkjohnsen 00:06:38 01/18/08 (36)
- Better Sound - audioengr 11:28:34 01/18/08 (34)
- What you say about jitter is a truism. Most of us learned that fifteen years ago. - clarkjohnsen 12:46:55 01/18/08 (24)
- RE: What you say about jitter is a truism. Most of us learned that fifteen years ago. - audioengr 23:05:12 01/18/08 (7)
- What's next? - Scrith 10:56:17 01/19/08 (3)
- Already have it - audioengr 12:35:57 01/19/08 (2)
- Interesting - Scrith 01:22:44 01/20/08 (1)
- Difference - audioengr 11:32:35 01/20/08 (0)
- RE: What you say about jitter is a truism. Most of us learned that fifteen years ago. - clarkjohnsen 23:46:00 01/18/08 (2)
- RE: What you say about jitter is a truism. Most of us learned that fifteen years ago. - audioengr 12:37:44 01/19/08 (1)
- Can you please restate this so I can understand what you are asking?" Easy! - clarkjohnsen 12:57:09 01/20/08 (0)
- RE: What you say about jitter is a truism. Most of us learned that fifteen years ago. - audioengr 22:58:02 01/18/08 (15)
- OK, now we have a taxonomy of sorts. But still unanswered... - clarkjohnsen 23:41:15 01/18/08 (14)
- RE: OK, now we have a taxonomy of sorts. But still unanswered... - Ted Smith 10:31:37 01/19/08 (13)
- The "answers" I've read (and I am not alone here) are offered in terms so vague... - clarkjohnsen 11:13:34 01/19/08 (12)
- RE: The "answers" I've read (and I am not alone here) are offered in terms so vague... - audioengr 12:43:05 01/19/08 (11)
- Good work! Because y'know, if the claims made here for sonic results from jitter reduction ("more control"... - clarkjohnsen 13:46:34 01/20/08 (10)
- Okay Clark - audioengr 22:21:15 01/20/08 (2)
- "...thingie tweaks that you believe in so strongly." Now, now. - clarkjohnsen 23:25:27 01/20/08 (1)
- Touche' - audioengr 11:49:51 01/21/08 (0)
- RE: Good work! Because y'know, if the claims made here for sonic results from jitter reduction ("more control"... - Ted Smith 14:37:52 01/20/08 (5)
- "I'd written quite a diatribe about your cheap shots, but why bother." Indeed. - clarkjohnsen 22:56:13 01/20/08 (4)
- RE: "I'd written quite a diatribe about your cheap shots, but why bother." Indeed. - Ted Smith 23:24:47 01/20/08 (3)
- "And to be frank..." Please be! - clarkjohnsen 12:07:37 01/21/08 (2)
- RE: "And to be frank..." Please be! - Ted Smith 12:45:43 01/21/08 (1)
- "Posters who... get upset when you suggest that listening for oneself is the best answer." Why are they here? - clarkjohnsen 12:51:36 01/21/08 (0)
- RE: Good work! Because y'know, if the claims made here for sonic results from jitter reduction ("more control" - Vincent VRS 14:15:41 01/20/08 (0)
- RE: Better Sound - Ted Smith 12:06:14 01/18/08 (8)
- How does one measure "control" and "tizziness"? I mean, even broadly? nt - clarkjohnsen 11:18:32 01/19/08 (7)
- And how does one know they are listening to lower jitter without measuring? nt - Slider 12:36:39 01/19/08 (6)
- RE: And how does one know they are listening to lower jitter without measuring? nt - Ted Smith 13:14:18 01/19/08 (5)
- So many variables not under control... nt - clarkjohnsen 13:51:22 01/20/08 (1)
- And if I were doing experiments I'd do something about that... [nt] - Ted Smith 14:09:14 01/20/08 (0)
- That wasn't really the point - Slider 17:28:34 01/19/08 (2)
- I agree... - Ted Smith 17:35:14 01/19/08 (1)
- "It's really the jitter spectrum that matters." Now you're talking! nt - clarkjohnsen 13:49:04 01/20/08 (0)
- RE: "The devil is in the details for any system to have superior sonics." All well and good, but... - Ted Smith 00:59:53 01/18/08 (0)
- Some agreement - Scrith 21:30:57 01/17/08 (7)
- RE: Some agreement - audioengr 23:22:12 01/17/08 (5)
- RE: Some agreement - Ted Smith 00:04:03 01/18/08 (4)
- Are we all on the same page ? - SoftwireEngineer 11:33:58 01/18/08 (3)
- RE: Are we all on the same page ? - Ted Smith 12:06:43 01/18/08 (2)
- RE: Are we all on the same page ? - Scrith 00:04:58 01/19/08 (1)
- RE: Are we all on the same page ? - Ted Smith 10:29:06 01/19/08 (0)
- RE: Some agreement - Ted Smith 23:03:59 01/17/08 (0)