In Reply to: RE: RIGHT!! posted by gusser on April 20, 2019 at 15:35:06:
Yes, - they are different classes of products, - but the point was that these are not outlier esoterica...
And you are again wrong, - there are no unreasonable and outlandish claims by audiophiles manufacturers here, - as a matter of fact these products have very little to no hyperbole and are making no claims, - especially compared to naysayers' crazy speculations like yours, - who make the unreasonable claim that they cannot work.
Lastly, - the products performance has TONS of evidence. And that performance is proved to the satisfaction of those, (unlike yourself who make outrageous and unproven claims), that the products are effifactious, = both ISO REGEN and the computer products that inspire them. The Intona was not designed for audio use, but plenty of people have found it very effective in the USB chain and made quite a difference in improving playback.
So are you saying that when someone uses an USB isolater (like the Intona), and then someone uses the same thing made by Audioquest or iFI that the audiophile manufacturer's product is snake-oil when the computer industry one isn't?
I am not sure what you mean by "measured proof" but the world in which they are used is a subjective goal, and it's not always predictable what other devices the purchaser will be using with thiese. So if a DAC, (and some do), have elements of an isoRegen built into the DAC, - obviously that will affect the performance.
THese products are produced to help a system produce good sound, - they are not produced for an objective goal like gigabit data bandwidth that have a required spec.
There is no burden of proof, - especially on the manufacturer, nor is there a claim or guarantee of any objective measure, - because the SQ of amps, speakers, and sources is in no way objective and there is no "certainty" or "right and wrong"
John also designs the Sonore line of digital file players and was and is a very significant developer and enhancer of the Squeezebox project and community after it was abandoned by Logitech.
I think that you should try dialing back your disrespectful and insulting attitude that assigns an undue and unreasonable amount of malice toward manufacturers who are audio enthisasts and have proven to the satisfaction of many, (and not just on these boards), that their products are highly effective in enhancing their recordings, and listening experiences.
I am saddened that you are unwilling to open your mind and do some listening instead of regurgitating the speculations of angry, anti-audiophiles who constantly criticize things that they know nothing about.
What experiences have you had? What is your stereo system? What speakers do you own? What is your amplifier? Do you own a CD player? Have you every used a computer to play back any digital files?
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Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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Follow Ups
- RE: RIGHT!! - Sordidman 04/20/1918:11:31 04/20/19 (2)
- Here you go! - gusser 20:31:10 04/20/19 (1)
- not as flashy, but I'll take my system anyday - audioengr 10:40:21 06/6/19 (0)