In Reply to: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... posted by Ivan303 on April 17, 2019 at 13:05:16:
First, if there is RF noise in the USB data or even power wires,that can be measured and quantified.
If the noise is causing clock jitter that too can be corelated.
If the noise is making it's way to the analog section, that too can be measured and quantified.
Now I realize the home audio experimenter with a used Heathkit scope probably isn't going to be able to do these tests with any degree of accuracy. But with standard lab grade equipment, all these parameters can be measured and quantified.
This is standard practice in the electronics industry at large. Only when we get into consumer foo foo audio does this become complex voodoo that nobody can measure.
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Follow Ups
- RE: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - gusser 04/17/1913:17:09 04/17/19 (85)
- RE: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - Ivan303 19:25:12 04/17/19 (84)
- RE: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - gusser 19:34:23 04/17/19 (83)
- Maybe, maybe not. - Ivan303 09:19:50 04/18/19 (82)
- RE: Maybe, maybe not. - gusser 11:13:29 04/18/19 (81)
- Nope, just a digital tech.... - Ivan303 16:58:59 04/18/19 (12)
- RE: Nope, just a digital tech.... - gusser 17:31:13 04/18/19 (11)
- RE: Nope, just a digital tech.... - Ivan303 20:36:40 04/18/19 (0)
- what does being an EE have anything to do with whether or not - Sordidman 19:25:12 04/18/19 (9)
- RE: what does being an EE have anything to do with whether or not - gusser 19:54:52 04/18/19 (8)
- That was a really good post from you, that advances this .... - Sordidman 08:32:19 04/19/19 (6)
- Wrong! - gusser 16:58:42 04/19/19 (5)
- RIGHT!! - Sordidman 13:50:19 04/20/19 (4)
- RE: RIGHT!! - gusser 15:35:06 04/20/19 (3)
- RE: RIGHT!! - Sordidman 18:11:31 04/20/19 (2)
- Here you go! - gusser 20:31:10 04/20/19 (1)
- not as flashy, but I'll take my system anyday - audioengr 10:40:21 06/6/19 (0)
- RE: what does being an EE have anything to do with whether or not - Ivan303 20:47:49 04/18/19 (0)
- Engineering credentials in other, (unrelated), fields are a detriment - Sordidman 16:50:26 04/18/19 (67)
- +1 here. All you need are ears beyond 15k and the wisdom to use them - Story 03:18:18 05/4/19 (0)
- Another chip designer? - gusser 17:23:39 04/18/19 (65)
- Yes: John was a regular poster here - Sordidman 17:53:43 04/18/19 (64)
- RE: Yes: John was a regular poster here - gusser 18:05:35 04/18/19 (63)
- these aren't products designed for the "scientific world" - Sordidman 18:58:54 04/18/19 (62)
- Are you serious? - gusser 19:52:27 04/18/19 (61)
- Yes, - the products are designed to produce ""good sound" - Sordidman 09:17:13 04/19/19 (24)
- I have opened my mind! - gusser 12:18:50 04/19/19 (22)
- I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - Sordidman 14:25:28 04/20/19 (21)
- RE: I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - gusser 15:27:11 04/20/19 (20)
- RE: I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - Sordidman 10:41:39 04/22/19 (19)
- RE: I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - gusser 10:48:39 04/22/19 (18)
- Thank you for proving my point...... - Sordidman 10:59:11 04/22/19 (17)
- You have provided evidence of nothing! - gusser 11:06:01 04/22/19 (16)
- Define evidence - Sordidman 11:30:18 04/22/19 (15)
- RE: Define evidence - gusser 11:34:05 04/22/19 (14)
- RE: Define evidence - Sordidman 12:07:46 04/22/19 (13)
- RE: Define evidence - gusser 12:14:51 04/22/19 (12)
- RE: Define evidence - Sordidman 12:37:17 04/22/19 (11)
- LOL! - gusser 12:43:59 04/22/19 (10)
- RE: LOL! - Sordidman 12:57:15 04/22/19 (9)
- What experience? - gusser 14:01:41 04/22/19 (8)
- RE: What experience? - Sordidman 14:24:04 04/22/19 (7)
- For your use I agree (nt) - gusser 14:54:56 04/22/19 (6)
- Again, not me. For high performance, digital file playback use - Sordidman 15:35:54 04/22/19 (5)
- Right! I don't have high performance digital playback! - gusser 15:53:41 04/22/19 (4)
- RE: Right! I don't have high performance digital playback! - Sordidman 16:21:40 04/22/19 (3)
- Vitriol - audioengr 10:42:36 06/6/19 (0)
- Your system. - gusser 16:56:37 04/22/19 (0)
- RE: Right! I don't have high performance digital playback! - gusser 16:27:52 04/22/19 (0)
- Well said ... another view paralleling The late great Richard C.Heyser... - Cleantimestream 11:13:18 04/19/19 (0)
- RE: Are you serious? - Ivan303 21:00:00 04/18/19 (35)
- RE: Are you serious? - gusser 21:07:21 04/18/19 (34)
- Why are you trying to argue with THIS man? - Cleantimestream 11:17:16 04/19/19 (33)
- I'm not! - gusser 12:27:30 04/19/19 (32)
- Sure, - "the laws of electrical engineering" - Sordidman 10:49:34 04/22/19 (2)
- RE: Sure, - "the laws of electrical engineering" - gusser 10:54:10 04/22/19 (1)
- RE: Sure, - "the laws of electrical engineering" - Sordidman 11:37:15 04/22/19 (0)
- "But that a listening session is also part of the test suite" - Cleantimestream 13:15:03 04/19/19 (28)
- Well said CleansTime -t - Sordidman 11:00:11 04/22/19 (1)
- RE: Well said CleansTime -t - Duster 13:44:45 05/2/19 (0)
- RE: "But that a listening session is also part of the test suite" - gusser 13:27:02 04/19/19 (25)
- Absolute Rubbish - Duster 15:56:04 05/2/19 (0)
- RE: "But that a listening session is also part of the test suite" - Cleantimestream 08:03:49 04/20/19 (23)
- +1 -t - Sordidman 11:01:58 04/22/19 (0)
- You missed my point. - gusser 11:30:21 04/20/19 (21)
- RE: You missed my point. - Cleantimestream 16:44:53 04/20/19 (20)
- I never said that! - gusser 17:09:17 04/20/19 (19)
- One can't design anything without engineering principles - Sordidman 11:03:46 04/22/19 (0)
- RE: I never said that! - Cleantimestream 17:25:06 04/20/19 (17)
- Misunderstanding - gusser 17:47:35 04/20/19 (16)
- Another False statement - Sordidman 11:16:08 04/22/19 (15)
- Now you say I am an EE? - gusser 11:31:12 04/22/19 (14)
- you're insulting John and your insulting me - Sordidman 12:02:34 04/22/19 (13)
- RE: you're insulting John and your insulting me - gusser 12:07:39 04/22/19 (12)
- RE: you're insulting John and your insulting me - Sordidman 12:14:34 04/22/19 (11)
- But I have the ability and experience to listen! - gusser 12:19:22 04/22/19 (10)
- RE: But I have the ability and experience to listen! - Sordidman 12:50:19 04/22/19 (9)
- RE: But I have the ability and experience to listen! - gusser 13:59:44 04/22/19 (8)
- RE: But I have the ability and experience to listen! - Sordidman 14:22:49 04/22/19 (7)
- Another area? - gusser 14:38:21 04/22/19 (6)
- RE: Another area? - Sordidman 15:34:17 04/22/19 (5)
- Clueless! - gusser 15:51:52 04/22/19 (4)
- Yes, - you absolutely are..... - Sordidman 16:34:45 04/22/19 (3)
- RE: Yes, - you absolutely are..... - gusser 16:43:57 04/22/19 (2)
- on the basis of your posts - Sordidman 16:58:02 04/22/19 (1)
- RE: on the basis of your posts - gusser 17:00:40 04/22/19 (0)