RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again...

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Topic - Outboard USB/SPDIF Conversion: Why Can It Yield Higher Sound Quality? - Mister Pig 08:10:47 04/14/19 (128)

Every USB interface is different - audioengr 10:16:28 06/4/19 (4)

RE: Every USB interface is different - Mr_Steady 12:01:34 06/4/19 (3)

RE: Every USB interface is different - audioengr 12:46:35 06/4/19 (2)

RE: Every USB interface is different - gusser 13:48:52 06/7/19 (1)

Give it up - audioengr 13:53:44 06/7/19 (0)

I would just keep your old DAC - Jon L 20:30:04 04/15/19 (5)

RE: I would just keep your old DAC - Mister Pig 06:33:49 04/17/19 (4)

RE: I would just keep your old DAC - Jon L 18:00:03 04/18/19 (0)

It's not a given that new, trendy, tech produces higher performance - Sordidman 10:38:04 04/18/19 (0)

What on earth were you thinking all of those years? - Ivan303 09:35:44 04/18/19 (0)

I have a similar 1704U-K DAC - jusbe 03:35:17 04/18/19 (0)

cables, cables, cables... - paco 02:18:05 04/15/19 (102)

RE: cables, cables, cables... - audioengr 10:15:07 06/6/19 (0)

Yeah.. Of course it's the WIRES that are the problem .. Unbelievable naivety - bare 17:26:04 04/16/19 (2)

yep, bad cables MAY spoil SQ in any system, don't be ignorant (nt) - paco 23:25:32 04/16/19 (1)

So happily buy more then :-) - bare 09:21:16 04/18/19 (0)

RE: cables, cables, cables... - gusser 11:26:00 04/16/19 (97)

RE: cables, cables, cables... - Sordidman 12:40:21 04/16/19 (88)

RE: cables, cables, cables... - gusser 12:49:39 04/16/19 (87)

The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - Ivan303 13:05:16 04/17/19 (86)

RE: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - gusser 13:17:09 04/17/19 (85)

RE: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - Ivan303 19:25:12 04/17/19 (84)

RE: The USB cable is on the DAC's INPUT.... - gusser 19:34:23 04/17/19 (83)

Maybe, maybe not. - Ivan303 09:19:50 04/18/19 (82)

RE: Maybe, maybe not. - gusser 11:13:29 04/18/19 (81)

Nope, just a digital tech.... - Ivan303 16:58:59 04/18/19 (12)

RE: Nope, just a digital tech.... - gusser 17:31:13 04/18/19 (11)

RE: Nope, just a digital tech.... - Ivan303 20:36:40 04/18/19 (0)

what does being an EE have anything to do with whether or not - Sordidman 19:25:12 04/18/19 (9)

RE: what does being an EE have anything to do with whether or not - gusser 19:54:52 04/18/19 (8)

That was a really good post from you, that advances this .... - Sordidman 08:32:19 04/19/19 (6)

Wrong! - gusser 16:58:42 04/19/19 (5)

RIGHT!! - Sordidman 13:50:19 04/20/19 (4)

RE: RIGHT!! - gusser 15:35:06 04/20/19 (3)

RE: RIGHT!! - Sordidman 18:11:31 04/20/19 (2)

Here you go! - gusser 20:31:10 04/20/19 (1)

not as flashy, but I'll take my system anyday - audioengr 10:40:21 06/6/19 (0)

RE: what does being an EE have anything to do with whether or not - Ivan303 20:47:49 04/18/19 (0)

Engineering credentials in other, (unrelated), fields are a detriment - Sordidman 16:50:26 04/18/19 (67)

+1 here. All you need are ears beyond 15k and the wisdom to use them - Story 03:18:18 05/4/19 (0)

Another chip designer? - gusser 17:23:39 04/18/19 (65)

Yes: John was a regular poster here - Sordidman 17:53:43 04/18/19 (64)

RE: Yes: John was a regular poster here - gusser 18:05:35 04/18/19 (63)

these aren't products designed for the "scientific world" - Sordidman 18:58:54 04/18/19 (62)

Are you serious? - gusser 19:52:27 04/18/19 (61)

Yes, - the products are designed to produce ""good sound" - Sordidman 09:17:13 04/19/19 (24)

I have opened my mind! - gusser 12:18:50 04/19/19 (22)

I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - Sordidman 14:25:28 04/20/19 (21)

RE: I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - gusser 15:27:11 04/20/19 (20)

RE: I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - Sordidman 10:41:39 04/22/19 (19)

RE: I would suggest some reading on logic and the history of science - gusser 10:48:39 04/22/19 (18)

Thank you for proving my point...... - Sordidman 10:59:11 04/22/19 (17)

You have provided evidence of nothing! - gusser 11:06:01 04/22/19 (16)

Define evidence - Sordidman 11:30:18 04/22/19 (15)

RE: Define evidence - gusser 11:34:05 04/22/19 (14)

RE: Define evidence - Sordidman 12:07:46 04/22/19 (13)

RE: Define evidence - gusser 12:14:51 04/22/19 (12)

RE: Define evidence - Sordidman 12:37:17 04/22/19 (11)

LOL! - gusser 12:43:59 04/22/19 (10)

RE: LOL! - Sordidman 12:57:15 04/22/19 (9)

What experience? - gusser 14:01:41 04/22/19 (8)

RE: What experience? - Sordidman 14:24:04 04/22/19 (7)

For your use I agree (nt) - gusser 14:54:56 04/22/19 (6)

Again, not me. For high performance, digital file playback use - Sordidman 15:35:54 04/22/19 (5)

Right! I don't have high performance digital playback! - gusser 15:53:41 04/22/19 (4)

RE: Right! I don't have high performance digital playback! - Sordidman 16:21:40 04/22/19 (3)

Vitriol - audioengr 10:42:36 06/6/19 (0)

Your system. - gusser 16:56:37 04/22/19 (0)

RE: Right! I don't have high performance digital playback! - gusser 16:27:52 04/22/19 (0)

Well said ... another view paralleling The late great Richard C.Heyser... - Cleantimestream 11:13:18 04/19/19 (0)

RE: Are you serious? - Ivan303 21:00:00 04/18/19 (35)

RE: Are you serious? - gusser 21:07:21 04/18/19 (34)

Why are you trying to argue with THIS man? - Cleantimestream 11:17:16 04/19/19 (33)

I'm not! - gusser 12:27:30 04/19/19 (32)

Sure, - "the laws of electrical engineering" - Sordidman 10:49:34 04/22/19 (2)

RE: Sure, - "the laws of electrical engineering" - gusser 10:54:10 04/22/19 (1)

RE: Sure, - "the laws of electrical engineering" - Sordidman 11:37:15 04/22/19 (0)

"But that a listening session is also part of the test suite" - Cleantimestream 13:15:03 04/19/19 (28)

Well said CleansTime -t - Sordidman 11:00:11 04/22/19 (1)

RE: Well said CleansTime -t - Duster 13:44:45 05/2/19 (0)

RE: "But that a listening session is also part of the test suite" - gusser 13:27:02 04/19/19 (25)

Absolute Rubbish - Duster 15:56:04 05/2/19 (0)

RE: "But that a listening session is also part of the test suite" - Cleantimestream 08:03:49 04/20/19 (23)

+1 -t - Sordidman 11:01:58 04/22/19 (0)

You missed my point. - gusser 11:30:21 04/20/19 (21)

RE: You missed my point. - Cleantimestream 16:44:53 04/20/19 (20)

I never said that! - gusser 17:09:17 04/20/19 (19)

One can't design anything without engineering principles - Sordidman 11:03:46 04/22/19 (0)

RE: I never said that! - Cleantimestream 17:25:06 04/20/19 (17)

Misunderstanding - gusser 17:47:35 04/20/19 (16)

Another False statement - Sordidman 11:16:08 04/22/19 (15)

Now you say I am an EE? - gusser 11:31:12 04/22/19 (14)

you're insulting John and your insulting me - Sordidman 12:02:34 04/22/19 (13)

RE: you're insulting John and your insulting me - gusser 12:07:39 04/22/19 (12)

RE: you're insulting John and your insulting me - Sordidman 12:14:34 04/22/19 (11)

But I have the ability and experience to listen! - gusser 12:19:22 04/22/19 (10)

RE: But I have the ability and experience to listen! - Sordidman 12:50:19 04/22/19 (9)

RE: But I have the ability and experience to listen! - gusser 13:59:44 04/22/19 (8)

RE: But I have the ability and experience to listen! - Sordidman 14:22:49 04/22/19 (7)

Another area? - gusser 14:38:21 04/22/19 (6)

RE: Another area? - Sordidman 15:34:17 04/22/19 (5)

Clueless! - gusser 15:51:52 04/22/19 (4)

Yes, - you absolutely are..... - Sordidman 16:34:45 04/22/19 (3)

RE: Yes, - you absolutely are..... - gusser 16:43:57 04/22/19 (2)

on the basis of your posts - Sordidman 16:58:02 04/22/19 (1)

RE: on the basis of your posts - gusser 17:00:40 04/22/19 (0)

so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - paco 12:28:15 04/16/19 (7)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - gusser 04/16/1912:34:39 04/16/19 (6)

Some engineering data - audioengr 10:51:24 06/6/19 (1)

RE: Some engineering data - gusser 13:39:01 06/7/19 (0)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - paco 12:46:14 04/16/19 (3)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - gusser 12:48:13 04/16/19 (2)

My credentials - audioengr 10:57:11 06/6/19 (0)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - Duster 02:04:41 04/18/19 (0)

RE: Outboard USB/SPDIF Conversion: Why Can It Yield Higher Sound Quality? - knewton 09:23:40 04/14/19 (6)

Could be.... - Ivan303 12:32:09 04/14/19 (5)

RE: Could be.... - Mister Pig 06:09:17 04/15/19 (4)

3 important USB considerations for great USB performance - Sordidman 08:40:52 04/16/19 (2)

RE: 3 important USB considerations for great USB performance - Mister Pig 06:23:58 04/17/19 (1)

Thanks for the clarifications - Sordidman 10:09:36 04/17/19 (0)

LOL! Maybe if you had a mail order Chinese DAC... - Ivan303 16:07:40 04/15/19 (0)

The 'Source to DAC' link contains a multitude of sins.... - Ivan303 09:09:45 04/14/19 (6)

RE: The 'Source to DAC' link contains a multitude of sins.... - Awe-d-o-file 14:04:53 04/14/19 (0)

RE: The 'Source to DAC' link contains a multitude of sins.... - Awe-d-o-file 13:53:23 04/14/19 (0)

RE: The 'Source to DAC' link contains a multitude of sins.... - Mister Pig 09:17:27 04/14/19 (3)

My contacts in Colorado who are close to PSAudio suggest... - Ivan303 09:38:17 04/14/19 (2)

RE: My contacts in Colorado who are close to PSAudio suggest... - AbeCollins 15:41:08 04/14/19 (1)

Might have been a $6000 DAC some years ago..... - Ivan303 18:19:08 04/14/19 (0)

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RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - gusser 04/16/1912:34:39 04/16/19 (6)

Some engineering data - audioengr 10:51:24 06/6/19 (1)

RE: Some engineering data - gusser 13:39:01 06/7/19 (0)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - paco 12:46:14 04/16/19 (3)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - gusser 12:48:13 04/16/19 (2)

My credentials - audioengr 10:57:11 06/6/19 (0)

RE: so old and tiring a controversy... yet let's try once again... - Duster 02:04:41 04/18/19 (0)

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