"As a consumer, I just don't see any reason to buy an unproven product. "

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Topic - OK, Here's a quiz - Jim Austin 18:42:34 02/14/11 (480)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - tmsorosk 12:38:51 02/28/11 (0)

Thanks Jim (and John) - Telynau 23:11:54 02/22/11 (0)

RE: Thanks Jim (and John) - anthonyh 08:16:39 03/15/11 (0)

such an obvious omission ... - TBone 10:43:57 02/22/11 (0)

Ok, Here's a quiz .... I subscribe to Stereophile: Who is Jim Austin???* - jpbeckaudio 14:17:09 02/21/11 (2)

He's a guy - Jim Austin 14:19:34 02/21/11 (1)

RE: He's a guy - esande 16:15:47 02/21/11 (0)

VOTE: Send to WHINER'S WOAD, or not? I vote SEND, please..please, flush now.. YOUR VOTE COUNTS!! - Elizabeth 20:42:06 02/18/11 (13)

Jeeeeeez! Who put you in charge? If you deleted only YOUR posts... - musetap 12:10:16 02/19/11 (4)

You are correct. If only... If only i had collected Fashion Dolls and made clothes for them... I'd be happy - Elizabeth 12:26:47 02/19/11 (3)

Hey, it's never too late to start. - geoffkait 06:57:03 02/20/11 (0)

Do they make your audio system sound any better? - musetap 12:44:06 02/19/11 (1)

Only when she puts them in the freezer. nt - Steve Eddy 19:56:48 02/19/11 (0)

You're one of the biggest whining windbags in this thread! - gme109 07:21:06 02/19/11 (0)

Agree. - Dave Pogue 05:40:41 02/19/11 (1)

RE: Agree. - kurt s 06:29:42 02/19/11 (0)

Trying to avoid an ass kicking now? nt - kurt s 21:07:24 02/18/11 (0)

RE: VOTE: Send to WHINER'S WOAD, or not? I vote SEND, please..please, flush now.. YOUR VOTE COUNTS!! - john curl 21:04:09 02/18/11 (3)

RE: VOTE: Send to WHINER'S WOAD, or not? I vote SEND, please..please, flush now.. YOUR VOTE COUNTS!! - Steve Eddy 20:10:20 02/19/11 (2)

RE: VOTE: Send to WHINER'S WOAD, or not? I vote SEND, please..please, flush now.. YOUR VOTE COUNTS!! - Charles Hansen 08:32:46 02/20/11 (1)

RE: VOTE: Send to WHINER'S WOAD, or not? I vote SEND, please..please, flush now.. YOUR VOTE COUNTS!! - Steve Eddy 08:59:37 02/20/11 (0)

MY quiz: did any single person change thier mind from reading all this crap? - Elizabeth 06:18:32 02/17/11 (41)

No. - kurt s 02:58:07 02/19/11 (2)

Thanks - Elizabeth 03:21:08 02/19/11 (1)

Why the nonsense? - kurt s 04:28:40 02/19/11 (0)

Yes - kurt s 10:15:48 02/17/11 (31)

For readers of Kurt's posts after the fact: Kurt has chosen to delete the majority of his post messages - Elizabeth 06:30:05 02/19/11 (2)

Thank you for finishing this. I want to apologize for my antagonizing words, also. Sorry about that . nt - kurt s 04:39:10 02/20/11 (0)

It was specifically out of "respect" for you. You hated them all. nt - kurt s 06:33:02 02/19/11 (0)

Oppie's student David Bohm has some good ones, too. - geoffkait 11:59:13 02/17/11 (0)

Yup. My Tibetan Buddhist name means:" enlightened as one newly drunk" - Elizabeth 11:06:29 02/17/11 (26)

If you were ever sober, it might not be gibberish to you. - kurt s 11:16:05 02/17/11 (25)

So you are actually claiming to have taken up Eastern philosophy as a DIRECT result if this thread? - Elizabeth 11:35:58 02/17/11 (24)

RE: So you are actually claiming to have taken up Eastern philosophy as a DIRECT result if this thread? - kurt s 08:05:24 02/18/11 (5)

Hey Liz. Why no stupid response to my actual answer here? nt - kurt s 22:13:30 02/18/11 (4)

wow. you're correct. Good catch on that. - Elizabeth 22:21:00 02/18/11 (3)

More drunken humor for yourself? - kurt s 03:15:26 02/19/11 (2)

The response you deleted was more appropriate - Elizabeth 03:24:06 02/19/11 (1)

RE: The response you deleted was more appropriate - kurt s 03:30:10 02/19/11 (0)

I find it incredible that you persist on the trivial matters about this. - kurt s 20:34:44 02/17/11 (16)

You made a comment and i called you on it. You have NOT answered the questiion, anyway - Elizabeth 23:11:34 02/17/11 (15)

And Happy Magha Puja to you, too! :-) nt - kurt s 04:37:32 02/18/11 (1)

Thank you. Very kind of you. nt - Elizabeth 20:49:00 02/18/11 (0)

I don't care about your childish inquiry. You don't seem to take the hint. - kurt s 01:56:10 02/18/11 (12)

hint:Kurt has no real argument, just a lot of pontificating to obfuscate not answering the question - Elizabeth 19:51:17 02/18/11 (11)

I have a real argument. It's you with all the fluff. - kurt s 21:20:30 02/18/11 (10)

LOL, STILL can't answer the question. you are funny - Elizabeth 21:29:08 02/18/11 (9)

Drunken humor again. Not funny, just sad for you. - kurt s 03:12:49 02/19/11 (7)

Yeah, poor Liz, gonna cry in my beer over it all..... - Elizabeth 03:39:37 02/19/11 (6)

5 hours of sleep or less? Is that normal for you? - kurt s 04:24:18 02/19/11 (5)

You are concerned for my well being, how touching. More playing games? - Elizabeth 04:49:48 02/19/11 (4)

I think you are trying to sucker punch me, or - kurt s 05:22:01 02/19/11 (3)

RE: I think you are trying to sucker punch me, or - john curl 07:39:36 02/19/11 (0)

Wow, you suffer from a mental illness. Sorry, i didn't know. i apologize for hassling you. nt - Elizabeth 05:27:27 02/19/11 (1)

What a complete crock of shit from you again. "I didn't know" - so it's okay! - kurt s 05:36:22 02/19/11 (0)

Yes I can - kurt s 03:06:00 02/19/11 (0)

RE: So you are actually claiming to have taken up Eastern philosophy as a DIRECT result if this thread? - kurt s 20:21:18 02/17/11 (0)

I Have A Lovely Pair Of Coconuts - Peter Gunn 07:41:13 02/17/11 (4)

If hemp will work why not coconut diaphragms? - keith_d 13:08:54 02/17/11 (0)

Excellent. - Elizabeth 11:08:50 02/17/11 (0)

+1 (nt) - Beetlemania 09:54:13 02/17/11 (0)

that was beautiful man! - gme109 09:47:09 02/17/11 (0)

There's a term for that - geoffkait 07:22:37 02/17/11 (0)

Fascinating! - musetap 18:22:15 02/16/11 (7)

Said designer has a REVIEW of a new product there too Parasound Halo JC3 Coincidence?? - Elizabeth 22:25:43 02/16/11 (5)

"I really doubt more than two additional copies of the March issue will be sold over this set of threads" - musetap 11:13:34 02/17/11 (0)

It occurs to me that Mr. Curl has (unwittingly?) produced the sort of fierce fecal storm that... - regmac 07:25:01 02/17/11 (3)

Congrats! One thing this brouhahahohum was lacking was the mention of ... - musetap 08:46:26 02/17/11 (2)

Or is he using "regmac" now? (nt) - mkuller 18:51:12 02/17/11 (1)

Doubt it: lack of corn, too much intelligence, no disparaging cable remarks or sexist comments...N/T - musetap 19:04:17 02/17/11 (0)

RE: Fascinating! - lord addleford 18:38:03 02/16/11 (0)

you kind of shot yourself in the foot with this post - Analog Scott 13:27:25 02/16/11 (2)

I guess I understand what you're saying - Jim Austin 13:33:09 02/16/11 (1)

THIS is the funniest post of the day! - Charles Hansen 08:13:30 02/17/11 (0)

is this the longest thread - ever? (nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 08:10:03 02/16/11 (3)

Just feels that way, especially since so much of it is re-hash posted before...N/T - musetap 09:51:56 02/16/11 (0)

I dunno, but it's being made shorter by mods deleting posts for no apparent reason. nt - Steve Eddy 09:06:28 02/16/11 (1)

Do you think there might be some sort of conspiracy? - geoffkait 12:28:18 02/16/11 (0)

Mr Austin, when you finally - Beetlemania 07:08:16 02/16/11 (58)

You are getting to the crux of the matter.... - bjh 13:39:38 02/16/11 (9)

Did you read it? - Jim Austin 14:00:12 02/16/11 (8)

They can't hold two opposing thoughts at one time. the article is only asking us to be wary of some tweaks - Elizabeth 22:44:18 02/16/11 (5)

You go, girl! - geoffkait 04:42:21 02/17/11 (4)

THAT is a REALLY good picture of me!!! Gee where ever did you find it? - Elizabeth 06:11:27 02/17/11 (3)

Where did I find it? I'm glad you asked. - geoffkait 07:08:32 02/17/11 (2)

ROFLMAO !! - Elizabeth 11:50:59 02/17/11 (1)

RE: ROFLMAO !! - geoffkait 15:25:57 02/17/11 (0)

Did you read my post? - bjh 14:25:59 02/16/11 (1)

Hey, count me in as foolhardy too! :-) - josh358 16:19:01 02/16/11 (0)

I'll just add one thing to what Steve said - Jim Austin 13:28:36 02/16/11 (1)

The hazards of listening? - Charles Hansen 22:12:51 02/19/11 (0)

RE: Mr Austin, when you finally - Steve Eddy 09:01:19 02/16/11 (45)

RE: Mr Austin, when you finally - Beetlemania 13:53:21 02/16/11 (44)

"measurable differences"? He doesn't - he just likes the brown color. N/T - carcass93 14:16:03 02/16/11 (0)

RE: Mr Austin, when you finally - Steve Eddy 14:12:45 02/16/11 (42)

BULLSHIT! - Charles Hansen 08:24:14 02/17/11 (18)

You must not have had the patience - Beetlemania 09:51:21 02/17/11 (1)

RE: You must not have had the patience - Steve Eddy 10:20:53 02/17/11 (0)

Try again, Charles. I know you're not THAT obtuse... - Steve Eddy 09:33:13 02/17/11 (15)

OK, Steve - Charles Hansen 12:42:03 02/17/11 (14)

RE: OK, Steve - Steve Eddy 13:32:12 02/17/11 (13)

Uhh... - Charles Hansen 17:05:01 02/17/11 (12)

Ayres reputation - Steyr 05:44:48 02/19/11 (1)

RE: Ayres reputation - john curl 07:46:38 02/19/11 (0)

RE: Uhh... - Steve Eddy 17:39:58 02/17/11 (9)

White cables - geoffkait 04:44:28 02/18/11 (2)

RE: White cables - Tony Lauck 16:00:47 02/18/11 (1)

Yeah, I can see that - geoffkait 16:30:01 02/18/11 (0)

Wait just a minute here... - mkuller 18:55:17 02/17/11 (5)

RE: Wait just a minute here... - Steve Eddy 19:13:01 02/17/11 (4)

So far you're ahead on substance, if not style. - regmac 07:38:37 02/18/11 (3)

RE: So far you're ahead on substance, if not style. - Steve Eddy 08:15:27 02/18/11 (2)

RE: So far you're ahead on substance, if not style. - john curl 08:36:14 02/18/11 (1)

RE: So far you're ahead on substance, if not style. - Steve Eddy 09:03:06 02/18/11 (0)

RE: Mr Austin, when you finally - Beetlemania 14:58:37 02/16/11 (22)

RE: Mr Austin, when you finally - Steve Eddy 15:28:05 02/16/11 (21)

That was beautiful, thanks for partially rebutting Austin's inane rant - Beetlemania 20:01:13 02/16/11 (20)

RE: That was beautiful, thanks for partially rebutting Austin's inane rant - Steve Eddy 20:37:20 02/16/11 (19)

RE: "Not some nonsensical, quack tweak marketed with a bunch of equally nonsensical gibberish and double talk. - geoffkait 04:21:44 02/17/11 (18)

i see myself in a whole new light: "a nannygoat with panties" wow.... - Elizabeth 06:26:11 02/17/11 (17)

RE: i see myself in a whole new light: "a nannygoat with panties" wow.... - john curl 06:50:12 02/17/11 (16)

Sleep tight.. Don't let the bedbugs bite. I got my fill... And You? - Elizabeth 16:51:08 02/17/11 (15)

RE: Sleep tight.. Don't let the bedbugs bite. I got my fill... And You? - geoffkait 16:59:48 02/17/11 (14)

RE: Sleep tight.. Don't let the bedbugs bite. I got my fill... And You? - john curl 20:30:36 02/17/11 (13)

A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - Elizabeth 23:22:19 02/17/11 (12)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - john curl 06:28:04 02/18/11 (11)

no problem nt - Elizabeth 19:24:48 02/18/11 (0)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - Steve Eddy 11:25:02 02/18/11 (6)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - john curl 11:46:17 02/18/11 (5)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - Steve Eddy 12:19:19 02/18/11 (4)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - john curl 14:27:24 02/18/11 (3)

I think you should STOP using subject lines that have NOTHING to do with the content thanks nt - Elizabeth 04:55:58 02/19/11 (1)

RE: I think you should STOP using subject lines that have NOTHING to do with the content thanks nt - john curl 07:52:16 02/19/11 (0)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - Steve Eddy 15:06:41 02/18/11 (0)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - Steve Eddy 09:09:09 02/18/11 (2)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - john curl 09:57:18 02/18/11 (1)

RE: A warning. i am really very boring. i have a strong preference for the truth, and not much interest in others - Steve Eddy 10:24:01 02/18/11 (0)

I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - lancelot 20:21:23 02/15/11 (75)

RE: I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - thetubeguy1954 12:48:45 02/16/11 (5)

RE: I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - josh358 16:35:21 02/16/11 (3)

RE: I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - john curl 18:29:18 02/16/11 (2)

RE: I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - Tony Lauck 19:47:03 02/17/11 (0)

RE: I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - josh358 20:39:36 02/16/11 (0)

RE: I'm suprised that Mr. Hansen and Mr. Curl seem to support thye idea that - john curl 14:38:36 02/16/11 (0)

Strawman - Charles Hansen 08:48:56 02/16/11 (0)

I believe their position is different than that... - mkuller 21:21:35 02/15/11 (62)

RE: I believe their position is different than that... - May Belt 12:50:05 02/16/11 (14)

The problem being that he didn't say it was complete nonsense - josh358 16:44:10 02/16/11 (13)

RE: "If someone told you that they'd made a functional airplane out of lead, would you not doubt that too? " - geoffkait 10:36:48 02/18/11 (12)

The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - josh358 12:01:53 02/18/11 (11)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - geoffkait 12:22:17 02/18/11 (10)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - josh358 12:39:35 02/18/11 (9)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - geoffkait 12:47:54 02/18/11 (8)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - rick_m 14:31:12 02/18/11 (3)

Excellent try! - geoffkait 14:52:18 02/18/11 (2)

Holy hydrazine batman! - rick_m 21:49:04 02/18/11 (1)

Valient effort - geoffkait 04:47:17 02/19/11 (0)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - josh358 13:04:58 02/18/11 (3)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - geoffkait 13:29:57 02/18/11 (2)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - josh358 14:16:07 02/18/11 (1)

RE: The space shuttle doesn't use it wings to fly - geoffkait 14:22:43 02/18/11 (0)

RE: I believe their position is different than that... - john curl 10:02:15 02/16/11 (6)

Great. no questions. Agree it is tough to get a CD to sound decent. - Elizabeth 06:29:22 02/17/11 (5)

That's where tweaks come in. Funny you haven't figured that out yet. nt - geoffkait 11:03:35 02/17/11 (4)

I prefer DACs - Steyr 05:53:36 02/19/11 (3)

RE: "I prefer DACs to Tweaks" - geoffkait 08:30:02 02/19/11 (2)

RE: "I prefer DACs to Tweaks" - Steyr 10:00:19 02/19/11 (1)

RE: "I prefer DACs to Tweaks" - geoffkait 11:35:13 02/19/11 (0)

Rejecting out of hand . . . - Pat D 08:16:58 02/16/11 (37)

I agree with you in essence if not in degree - kerr 12:49:42 02/16/11 (0)

You've illustrated Mike's point - E-Stat 12:16:28 02/16/11 (30)

How? I have rejected nothing out of hand. - Pat D 13:01:11 02/16/11 (29)

RE: " The only real test (of the chip) that I know of was done by Randi." Emphasis on "that I know of" - geoffkait 14:10:43 02/16/11 (16)

Well? (nt) - Pat D 17:09:52 02/16/11 (15)

That's a deep subject - geoffkait 19:00:42 02/16/11 (14)

That's an old one. - Pat D 20:58:17 02/16/11 (13)

RE: Well, you can whine about Randi's test all you want. You haven't come up with a better one." - geoffkait 03:45:39 02/17/11 (12)

For $16 I could get two CDs, and they would make an audible difference! - Pat D 05:00:14 02/17/11 (11)

You're shooting blanks in the dark. nt - geoffkait 05:56:34 02/17/11 (10)

It's just a matter of priorities. - Pat D 19:05:56 02/17/11 (9)

Right. And ours are very different. - geoffkait 02:28:59 02/18/11 (8)

RE: Right. And ours are very different. - Pat D 04:55:24 02/18/11 (7)

RE: "If I chose to study some audio tweak or a strange audio product, the Intelligent Chip wouldn't be it." - geoffkait 05:29:30 02/18/11 (6)

RE: "If I chose to study some audio tweak or a strange audio product, the Intelligent Chip wouldn't be it." - Pat D 14:09:26 02/18/11 (5)

RE: "If I chose to study some audio tweak or a strange audio product, the Intelligent Chip wouldn't be it." - geoffkait 16:48:55 02/18/11 (4)

RE: "If I chose to study some audio tweak or a strange audio product, the Intelligent Chip wouldn't be it." - Pat D 22:00:38 02/18/11 (3)

RE: "We do it by listening to CDs and enjoying the music." I used to be like you once upon a time. - geoffkait 02:35:09 02/19/11 (2)

Genies out of bottles. - Pat D 11:18:20 02/19/11 (1)

RE: Genies out of bottles. - geoffkait 04:43:24 02/20/11 (0)

RE: Genies out of bottles. - Pat D 07:04:44 02/28/11 (0)

RE: Genies out of bottles. - geoffkait 08:04:11 02/28/11 (0)

Classic response! - E-Stat 13:10:11 02/16/11 (11)

Still illogical. - Pat D 13:20:11 02/16/11 (10)

Let me ask you this - is there anything at all ... - carcass93 14:09:48 02/16/11 (6)

Let's see, instead of talking about audio . . . - Pat D 17:13:17 02/16/11 (0)

The scene: Pat D and wife at grocery - E-Stat 16:35:13 02/16/11 (4)

Beautiful. N/T - carcass93 09:02:26 02/17/11 (0)

No wonder your mind isn't working right . . . - Pat D 17:25:10 02/16/11 (2)

You really don't know what - E-Stat 17:36:20 02/16/11 (1)

Ding...ding...ding... - mkuller 19:16:14 02/16/11 (0)

That's exactly what I thought of your response! - E-Stat 13:46:50 02/16/11 (2)

RE: That's exactly what I thought of your response! - Pat D 17:08:58 02/16/11 (1)

"As a consumer, I just don't see any reason to buy an unproven product. " - E-Stat 02/16/1117:33:08 02/16/11 (0)

As a consumer, not in the least concerned with improving quality of music reproduction,... - carcass93 08:47:05 02/16/11 (4)

Ahh, carcass93 pretending to further the science and craft of audio. - Pat D 13:12:29 02/16/11 (3)

What's eating away at you? - carcass93 14:03:34 02/16/11 (2)

I was afraid I'd touch a nerve . . . - Pat D 17:29:57 02/16/11 (1)

Patty... next time you're afraid to touch a nerve,... - carcass93 08:58:49 02/17/11 (0)

RE: I believe their position is different than that... - Todd Krieger 23:35:00 02/15/11 (1)

You are advocating caution and want science to assure you. - Norm 07:29:10 02/16/11 (0)

Just the opposite. I think John Curl is annoyed he is lumped in with the tweakers by Jim Austin - Elizabeth 21:18:06 02/15/11 (4)

RE: Just the opposite. I think John Curl is annoyed he is lumped in with the tweakers by Jim Austin - john curl 03:49:41 02/16/11 (3)

Cool. Creative people usually have wide and far ranging interests - Elizabeth 04:42:23 02/16/11 (2)

RE: Cool. Creative people usually have wide and far ranging interests - john curl 09:28:48 02/16/11 (1)

top gear - Steyr 09:38:03 02/16/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - JNS 15:46:33 02/15/11 (101)

"For the first time I wish I had an issue of Stereophile in my hand." Might be the point of all this nonsense. - gme109 18:04:00 02/15/11 (0)

Got anger? nt - Beetlemania 16:46:49 02/15/11 (99)

RE: Got anger? nt - JNS 18:07:00 02/15/11 (88)

I'll tell you what I find childish. Those who feel a need to comment on products they've never even heard - gme109 18:13:29 02/15/11 (87)

RE: I'll tell you what I find childish. Those who feel a need to comment on products they've never even heard - JNS 05:25:11 02/16/11 (1)

RE: I'll tell you what I find childish. Those who feel a need to comment on products they've never even heard - gme109 05:36:35 02/16/11 (0)

That is the same nonsense over and over. NO ONE would have to try it it is pure hokum 100% BS - Elizabeth 18:23:00 02/15/11 (84)

You missed my point - gme109 18:32:19 02/15/11 (83)

The same thing I don't understand. - carcass93 19:53:24 02/15/11 (41)

yup. it is BS. Does anyone question wherther the tweak in question (intellichip) is bogus? - Elizabeth 22:11:00 02/15/11 (40)

RE: "Does anyone question whether the intellichip) is bogus?" - not those who've heard it - geoffkait 04:07:06 02/16/11 (39)

RE: "Does anyone question whether the intellichip) is bogus?" - not those who've heard it - gofish 14:24:10 02/16/11 (13)

RE: "you are selling them something that puts put enough energy that the photons can penetrate metal." - geoffkait 14:36:52 02/16/11 (12)

RE: "you are selling them something that puts put enough energy that the photons can penetrate metal." - gofish 15:05:04 02/16/11 (11)

RE: "Photons can penetrate metal" - geoffkait 15:27:18 02/16/11 (10)

RE: "Photons can penetrate metal" - gofish 04:52:09 02/17/11 (9)

RE: "While I can't help what you believe I did try to educate you in the earlier post." - geoffkait 05:47:31 02/17/11 (8)

furthermore... - BS64 02:05:55 02/18/11 (5)

RE: furthermore... - geoffkait 03:52:56 02/18/11 (4)

answering a question with a question - BS64 13:38:55 02/18/11 (3)

Questions, you have questions - geoffkait 13:52:33 02/18/11 (2)

answers - BS64 21:30:44 02/18/11 (1)

RE: "Is ANY of it really an "answer?" Have you tried Wikipedia? nt - geoffkait 02:47:45 02/19/11 (0)

RE: "While I can't help what you believe I did try to educate you in the earlier post." - gofish 08:54:28 02/17/11 (1)

RE: "Now you will have to let me know how they interact if neither can penetrate the shell of the player." - geoffkait 11:33:10 02/17/11 (0)

RE: "Does anyone question whether the intellichip) is bogus?" - not those who've heard it - regmac 07:53:25 02/16/11 (5)

RE: "Does anyone question whether the intellichip) is bogus?" - not those who've heard it - geoffkait 08:48:35 02/16/11 (4)

You neglected to address sales growth for the chip. I understand sales have been anemic. Odd that. - regmac 10:16:06 02/16/11 (3)

RE: You neglected to address sales growth for the chip. I understand sales have been anemic. Odd that. - geoffkait 10:25:29 02/16/11 (2)

RE: You neglected to address sales growth for the chip. I understand sales have been anemic. Odd that. - regmac 10:28:30 02/16/11 (1)

RE: "I rest my case" - You don't have a case. Well, except for a case of the ass. nt - geoffkait 10:37:40 02/16/11 (0)

"highly prized as a conversation starter" LOL! Thanks! nt - Beetlemania 07:10:43 02/16/11 (0)

RE: "Does anyone question whether the intellichip) is bogus?" - not those who've heard it - JNS 05:28:47 02/16/11 (17)

RE: "Does anyone question whether the intellichip) is bogus?" - not those who've heard it - geoffkait 05:43:20 02/16/11 (15)

And then,with this sort of reasoning, you WONDER why some folks just flat out laugh? - Elizabeth 05:54:07 02/16/11 (13)

RE: And then,with this sort of reasoning, you WONDER why some folks just flat out laugh? - geoffkait 05:57:51 02/16/11 (12)

Dense! - Steyr 08:23:52 02/16/11 (11)

Another pseudo-skeptic that won't listen to reason. - geoffkait 08:50:29 02/16/11 (10)

skeptic - Steyr 09:08:41 02/16/11 (9)

RE: skeptic - geoffkait 09:33:53 02/16/11 (8)

Yes regularly - Steyr 09:42:33 02/16/11 (7)

You just can't seem to catch a break, can you? - geoffkait 09:53:38 02/16/11 (6)

outlier - Steyr 10:04:27 02/16/11 (5)

RE: "And it's no longer in production? Correct?" - geoffkait 10:45:12 02/16/11 (4)

Try this - Steyr 11:26:18 02/16/11 (3)

Huh? What's that got to do with the price of spinach? - geoffkait 11:40:00 02/16/11 (2)

Here's The Right Link (nt) - thetubeguy1954 17:52:40 02/16/11 (1)

Thanks! - geoffkait 19:08:59 02/16/11 (0)

Sounds farfetched to me - kerr 05:52:40 02/16/11 (0)

No one expects 'magic fairy dust' to last very long! Don't you KNOW that too? - Elizabeth 05:41:29 02/16/11 (0)

If there's a steaming pile of shit standing on your doorstep - Jim Austin 18:47:10 02/15/11 (40)

If a "reviewer" writes entirely by speculation - E-Stat 06:00:37 02/16/11 (0)

Are you talking about your own article in Stereophile? - carcass93 20:00:02 02/15/11 (0)

I see your reading comprehension is also lacking - gme109 19:43:15 02/15/11 (32)

Doesn't matter. - Dave Pogue 05:35:10 02/16/11 (31)

There are perfectly good reasons why some folks could not hear the chip. nt - geoffkait 05:51:25 02/16/11 (27)

LOL, #1: they are not gulllible, #2: they are not easily hypnotised #3: their mind tends NOt to play tricks nt - Elizabeth 06:00:58 02/16/11 (26)

Actually, you're very very close - geoffkait 06:05:33 02/16/11 (25)

Yeah, the he(a)rd mentality - Dave Pogue 06:12:39 02/16/11 (24)

Negative Expectation Bais - geoffkait 06:32:50 02/16/11 (23)

Same Thing For Nocebo Effect Geff! - thetubeguy1954 17:42:59 02/16/11 (6)

Self-fulfilling prophesy - The Placebo Effect's Evil Twin - geoffkait 19:35:51 02/16/11 (0)

Did that actually happen? - josh358 18:26:16 02/16/11 (4)

RE: Did that actually happen? - thetubeguy1954 14:12:47 02/21/11 (1)

RE: Did that actually happen? - josh358 08:07:45 02/22/11 (0)

Haven't you watched enough horrer movies to accept it does? - Elizabeth 22:57:47 02/16/11 (1)

Heh, thanks (nt) - josh358 09:25:05 02/18/11 (0)

RE: Negative Expectation Bais - Dave Pogue 08:40:43 02/16/11 (15)

RE: Negative Expectation Bias - geoffkait 09:02:41 02/16/11 (14)

Now Geoff, Really. The Chip was a "party favor?") - Dave Pogue 09:50:25 02/16/11 (13)

You have been terminated - geoffkait 09:58:25 02/16/11 (12)

Hoist with his own party favors, er, petard :-) - Dave Pogue 10:07:34 02/16/11 (11)

Just remember, old-timer - geoffkait 12:14:27 02/16/11 (10)

So you're saying the Chip has zero effect under 10kHz. - Dave Pogue 12:56:33 02/16/11 (9)

RE: So you're saying the Chip has zero effect under 10kHz. - geoffkait 13:08:17 02/16/11 (8)

RE: So you're saying the Chip has zero effect under 10kHz. - Dave Pogue 13:16:22 02/16/11 (7)

RE: So you're saying the Chip has zero effect under 10kHz. - geoffkait 13:37:20 02/16/11 (6)

A thought for the day. - Dave Pogue 13:54:53 02/16/11 (5)

RE: A thought for the day. - Steve Eddy 14:26:18 02/16/11 (3)

RE: A thought for the day. - geoffkait 15:11:49 02/16/11 (0)

I once thought Kait had some credibility. - Dave Pogue 14:30:08 02/16/11 (1)

Thanks, coming from you I take that as a compliment. - geoffkait 14:43:42 02/16/11 (0)

Here's another thought for the day. - geoffkait 14:25:12 02/16/11 (0)

RE: Doesn't matter. - gme109 05:41:32 02/16/11 (2)

RE: Doesn't matter. - Dave Pogue 06:19:34 02/16/11 (1)

again, you missed the point - gme109 13:07:48 02/16/11 (0)

agree. nt - Elizabeth 18:51:49 02/15/11 (4)

Your history about making comments and drawing conclusions, about products you haven't heard, is well known - gme109 19:54:38 02/15/11 (3)

Fair enough. problem is you left off your conclusion. Which is? - Elizabeth 20:04:58 02/15/11 (2)

Conclusion: In audio, if you haven't heard a product, your opinion is meaningless - gme109 21:26:58 02/15/11 (1)

straight forward enough. Lucky i can ignore your request with impunity - Elizabeth 22:14:01 02/15/11 (0)

RE: Got anger? nt - john curl 17:16:50 02/15/11 (9)

RE: Got anger? nt - JNS 17:53:07 02/15/11 (8)

RE: Got anger? nt - john curl 17:57:57 02/15/11 (7)

"...especially after years of no contact." Yeah, he don't call, he don't write. Hey, hell hath no fury... - Enophile 19:01:11 02/15/11 (0)

You ARE nuts. Sorry, but that statement is pure paranoid delusion - Elizabeth 18:29:38 02/15/11 (5)

You are speaking about "pure paranoid delusion"? That's rich. - carcass93 19:39:49 02/15/11 (1)

Slander is what one uses to hit back if they actually have nothing of any value to strike back with nt - Elizabeth 20:07:11 02/15/11 (0)

RE: You ARE nuts. Sorry, but that statement is pure paranoid delusion - john curl 18:39:30 02/15/11 (2)

Well, when "this" action resides... - musetap 22:16:03 02/15/11 (0)

I do not think you are silly, but the comment on wanting some action makes sense nt - Elizabeth 20:41:31 02/15/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - das@soundstage.com 12:46:43 02/15/11 (17)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - acres verde 15:57:36 02/15/11 (13)

Your message is pretty perceptive - Jim Austin 18:02:45 02/15/11 (4)

Trust your ears, trust your common sense too! nt - Elizabeth 19:20:11 02/15/11 (3)

Why is it called common sense when so few people have it? nt - geoffkait 04:32:16 02/16/11 (2)

Lord knows you count on that (nt) - Dave Pogue 05:47:30 02/17/11 (1)

Well, at least I know I can always count on you. nt - geoffkait 05:52:17 02/17/11 (0)

I'm Not Doug Schroeder - das@soundstage.com 16:54:11 02/15/11 (7)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - acres verde 10:07:02 02/16/11 (6)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - geoffkait 10:47:48 02/16/11 (5)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - acres verde 12:08:40 02/16/11 (4)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - geoffkait 12:20:03 02/16/11 (3)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - das@soundstage.com 20:39:43 02/16/11 (2)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - acres verde 09:16:12 02/17/11 (1)

RE: I'm Not Doug Schroeder - das@soundstage.com 13:15:29 02/17/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - Jim Austin 14:15:49 02/15/11 (2)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - das@soundstage.com 17:12:29 02/15/11 (1)

Preaching to the choir - Jim Austin 18:05:26 02/15/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - Pat D 12:39:52 02/15/11 (0)

Refresher course. - carcass93 11:51:49 02/15/11 (5)

Whole lot of poster's in that thread that post no more hearabouts...N/T - musetap 15:23:34 02/15/11 (0)

Just posting that thread link improved the sound of my system. Thanks! - Enophile 12:25:31 02/15/11 (0)

jeeeeezzzzz..... nt - Elizabeth 12:23:01 02/15/11 (0)

Geoff Kait himself wins Post of the Year in that thread - kerr 11:58:37 02/15/11 (0)

Thanks...that's a classic...(nt) - mkuller 11:58:33 02/15/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - rick_m 11:03:06 02/15/11 (6)

It's OK - Jim Austin 14:06:33 02/15/11 (3)

RE: It's OK - Tony Lauck 18:43:32 02/17/11 (1)

RE: "I don't spend money on tweaks, either." - geoffkait 04:32:38 02/18/11 (0)

Uhh.. I think Pauli got it right. - Charles Hansen 19:36:13 02/15/11 (0)

I agree with much of your post - Beetlemania 11:31:38 02/15/11 (1)

RE: I agree with much of your post - john curl 12:00:46 02/15/11 (0)

Your only problem is that you think you are a scientist and are really close-minded, a very unscientific act.* - Norm 11:02:13 02/15/11 (34)

What do you use for medicine, Norm? - Jim Austin 14:45:47 02/15/11 (12)

That's pretty pathetic - I'm sure Norm could have a field day with this. - carcass93 14:58:32 02/15/11 (11)

Actually - Jim Austin 15:02:13 02/15/11 (10)

Wrong Jim, "skeptical of bullshit" They are skeptical only. - Norm 06:51:21 02/16/11 (0)

Exactly - REAL scientists are open-minded. - carcass93 15:13:23 02/15/11 (8)

IF the item was something they are interested in maybe, but if asked: is this crap? they can say 'it's crap'. - Elizabeth 18:48:25 02/15/11 (5)

You can say you think something is bullshit, but not with any authority. Nor can you say you are/were right - Norm 06:57:17 02/16/11 (4)

"no one?" You did.. - Sordidman 10:42:35 02/16/11 (3)

Err, can you tell me where? - Norm 11:07:42 02/16/11 (2)

You purchased the chip and used it , you write from experience -t - Sordidman 10:31:47 02/18/11 (1)

Err, yes I said I heard some benefit. I hardly claimed any authority. One man's experiences. nt - Norm 07:06:56 02/20/11 (0)

I do not claim to be a "real scientist" - Jim Austin 15:19:38 02/15/11 (1)

Is dark energy bullshit? nt - Norm 09:38:48 02/16/11 (0)

No, it is very "scientific" to close one's mind. Scientists know everything. - samtellig 14:31:12 02/15/11 (18)

Yep, the first rule of science! :() nt - Norm 07:06:34 02/16/11 (0)

Well Sam, if we Scientists knew everything... - morricab 05:15:23 02/16/11 (0)

Sam, Sam, Sam! - Charles Hansen 20:10:00 02/15/11 (7)

he said he wants to put more distance between skilled audio design and jar of rocks - Elizabeth 20:56:34 02/15/11 (6)

RE: he said he wants to put more distance between skilled audio design and jar of rocks - Charles Hansen 09:00:41 02/16/11 (4)

You have it completely wrong. - Jim Austin 15:04:55 02/17/11 (1)

RE: You have it completely wrong. - Charles Hansen 17:11:08 02/17/11 (0)

Don't forget C) There is no difference. - Enophile 12:29:30 02/16/11 (1)

RE: Don't forget C) There is no difference. - Charles Hansen 17:09:03 02/17/11 (0)

Sorry, the Genie is already out of the bag... - geoffkait 04:17:27 02/16/11 (0)

So, what does your *open mind* say about the pebbles and the chip Sam--NT - lancelot 18:58:01 02/15/11 (2)

As I understand, pebbles are just crystals (RFI blockers) - read Tweaker's. - carcass93 19:37:19 02/15/11 (1)

He obviously didn't get the memo. Crystals have gone mainstream. nt - geoffkait 04:10:40 02/16/11 (0)

RE: No, it is very "scientific" to close one's mind. Scientists know everything. - john curl 17:23:46 02/15/11 (1)

RE: No, it is very "scientific" to close one's mind. Scientists know everything. - Tony Lauck 18:29:49 02/17/11 (0)

Careful Sam, if we writers start to bicker, JA's gonna be pissed! (nt) - Jim Austin 14:36:15 02/15/11 (2)

Silence those who disagree. That's what I expect from scientists. Thanks for the warning. I'll shut up.(nt) - samtellig 14:58:47 02/15/11 (1)

Don't shut up on my account. - Jim Austin 15:05:05 02/15/11 (0)

"think you are a scientist" - HE DOES??? - carcass93 11:11:48 02/15/11 (1)

You would think I would learn! - kerr 12:02:20 02/15/11 (0)

Some serious egomania here, and top job peddling your column!...N/T - musetap 10:49:16 02/15/11 (1)

The blog is inactive - Jim Austin 10:51:41 02/15/11 (0)

after another re-read I find - Steyr 09:44:34 02/15/11 (4)

Not here in Maine. Here it will be winter for another 47 months. - Jim Austin 09:48:50 02/15/11 (3)

In WI - Steyr 09:53:01 02/15/11 (2)

Not to worry - Jim Austin 09:55:48 02/15/11 (1)

Caveat emptor - Steyr 10:19:11 02/15/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - volunteer 08:27:38 02/15/11 (1)

We all seem to agree on that. The 'history' is in some of the posts (or links) below nt - Elizabeth 08:36:23 02/15/11 (0)

Your tardy reply cost me $20. - regmac 08:15:15 02/15/11 (0)

This thread is an obvious specific and personal insult to John Curl. As was the original column. - Enophile 08:10:43 02/15/11 (1)

Obviously there's a history between Curl & Austin - mls-stl 09:24:49 02/15/11 (0)

OK, Here's a clue - morgan1 08:08:53 02/15/11 (4)

Gee, were you looking in a mirror when you wrote the above dreck? - Elizabeth 08:32:53 02/15/11 (3)

Ditto* - morgan1 09:00:46 02/15/11 (2)

Good, you agree with her. - Dave Pogue 11:34:51 02/15/11 (1)

Can't say the same for... - morgan1 13:55:12 02/15/11 (0)

What is an AWSI? Do you think any of us are sane? Do you think you are? - Frihed89 06:19:54 02/15/11 (2)

AWSI: Stereophile column: As We See It. this is about the March 2011 As We See It column - Elizabeth 06:22:18 02/15/11 (1)

AWSI=As We See It (nt) - jeffmathers 07:17:13 02/15/11 (0)

Audiophile outsider conducts witch hunt...again. Am I close? - geoffkait 04:32:01 02/15/11 (8)

No, not close - Jim Austin 05:26:09 02/15/11 (7)

WTF do I know? I don't have a Ph.D. in physics. But isn't this a little condescending? - samtellig 05:53:25 02/15/11 (6)

C'mon 'Sam', it's Geoff Kait! - Jim Austin 06:15:12 02/15/11 (4)

RE: C'mon 'Sam', it's Geoff Kait! no kidding. Geoff is like GROUND ZERO, LOL! - Elizabeth 06:20:02 02/15/11 (3)

Right on que, Lizzie , All I have to do is mention witch. --( - geoffkait 08:24:06 02/15/11 (2)

witch. ROFLMAO !!! - Elizabeth 08:41:06 02/15/11 (1)

RE: witch. ROFLMAO !!! - geoffkait 09:12:52 02/15/11 (0)

RE: WTF do I know? I don't have a Ph.D. in physics. But isn't this a little condescending? - bjh 06:01:37 02/15/11 (0)

My question to those who read it would be ... - bjh 03:38:58 02/15/11 (1)

FAIL (NT) - Jim Austin 04:19:56 02/15/11 (0)

what you said - Elizabeth 23:35:10 02/14/11 (23)

Elizabeth, if you read Austin's related ASWI - Beetlemania 07:41:08 02/15/11 (22)

Now that i understand all the history, I see it is a washing of dirty laundry all around - Elizabeth 07:52:29 02/15/11 (21)

"Too bad all this is being aired." Au contraire! Victory all around, it's about the publicity and controversy! - Enophile 09:39:02 02/15/11 (0)

RE: Now that i understand all the history, I see it is a washing of dirty laundry all around - Beetlemania 08:17:26 02/15/11 (7)

Here's my master plan - Jim Austin 09:48:03 02/15/11 (1)

LOL first part, second part agree completely: More... - Elizabeth 11:28:24 02/15/11 (0)

He didnot say it was'wrong' just that we should be more careful about accepting such claims - Elizabeth 08:50:20 02/15/11 (0)

"Why should Jim Austin get to decide.." - volunteer 08:35:23 02/15/11 (3)

To paraphrase from the current AWSI - Beetlemania 13:36:07 02/15/11 (2)

RE: To paraphrase from the current AWSI - volunteer 14:06:09 02/15/11 (1)

Perhaps incomplete synthesis but - Beetlemania 16:45:59 02/15/11 (0)

RE: Now that i understand all the history, I see it is a washing of dirty laundry all around - john curl 08:13:30 02/15/11 (11)

RE: Now that i understand all the history, I see it is a washing of dirty laundry all around - TomLarson 09:45:16 02/15/11 (9)

Therein, I think, lies the crux of the disagreement - Beetlemania 10:05:37 02/15/11 (8)

RE: Therein, I think, lies the crux of the disagreement - TomLarson 11:42:59 02/15/11 (2)

RE: Therein, I think, lies the crux of the disagreement - john curl 12:06:48 02/15/11 (1)

RE: Therein, I think, lies the crux of the disagreement - TomLarson 12:33:15 02/15/11 (0)

RE: "I have no idea of how Mr Curl came to listen to the IC or what he thought of manufacturer's explanation." - geoffkait 10:42:16 02/15/11 (4)

RE: "I have no idea of how Mr Curl came to listen to the IC or what he thought of manufacturer's explanation." - john curl 10:52:24 02/15/11 (3)

Can we burn Geoff in effigy? please please... - Elizabeth 11:34:06 02/15/11 (2)

RE: Can we burn Geoff in effigy? please please... - volunteer 15:58:35 02/15/11 (0)

RE: Can we burn Geoff in effigy? If you do, it will enhance the sound of your Hi Fi, as well! Win win! - Enophile 15:36:29 02/15/11 (0)

Thanks for the comment. nt - Elizabeth 08:58:32 02/15/11 (0)

"How many of you understood it?" Why ask? - hesson11 21:44:49 02/14/11 (5)

Well I certainly... - Jim Austin 04:23:13 02/15/11 (4)

Thanks, Jim - hesson11 05:00:59 02/15/11 (3)

Here's what you missed - Jim Austin 05:28:51 02/15/11 (2)

Well, that certainly helps! - hesson11 08:09:11 02/15/11 (0)

So it does go way back.. interesting.. very interesting. and hey I won didn't I? nt - Elizabeth 06:17:28 02/15/11 (0)

I have flunked your AWSI quiz - Beetlemania 21:15:32 02/14/11 (35)

RE: I have flunked your AWSI quiz - John Atkinson 10:53:30 02/15/11 (0)

Question - mls-stl 08:43:18 02/15/11 (33)

Gee whiz, mea culpa for explicitly writing it - Beetlemania 09:52:13 02/15/11 (14)

The masses want opinions. Questions are asked all the time to offer opinions on stuff, so they get answers - Elizabeth 19:18:18 02/15/11 (5)

RE: "majority of the current evidence is the chip does not work. If it did, they would still be selling, hey." - geoffkait 05:22:23 02/18/11 (0)

The flip side of "I told you so" cards - Tony Lauck 18:20:00 02/17/11 (3)

Looking for heroes? - soulfood 07:25:47 02/18/11 (2)

RE: Looking for heroes? - Tony Lauck 07:42:01 02/18/11 (1)

RE: "Perhaps I misunderstood the claim." - geoffkait 07:58:53 02/18/11 (0)

Well, that's just dandy ... - Dave Pogue 13:28:38 02/15/11 (5)

RE: Well, that's just dandy ... - geoffkait 14:24:40 02/15/11 (2)

RE: Well, that's just dandy ... - Dave Pogue 14:40:56 02/15/11 (1)

RE: Well, that's just dandy ... - geoffkait 14:51:47 02/15/11 (0)

I'm going to assume your question is serious - Beetlemania 13:48:30 02/15/11 (1)

It was semi-serious. - Dave Pogue 14:23:41 02/15/11 (0)

This thread should have been titled... - mls-stl 11:02:29 02/15/11 (0)

Pretty obvious, isn't it? N/T - carcass93 09:59:35 02/15/11 (0)

The answer seems obvious, no? - carcass93 09:00:19 02/15/11 (17)

RE: The answer seems obvious, no? - mls-stl 09:20:19 02/15/11 (16)

RE: The answer seems obvious, no? - kurt s 06:39:10 02/16/11 (0)

I'm sure you could do without pretending to not understand the scope of discussion. - carcass93 09:48:58 02/15/11 (1)

It appears... - mls-stl 10:38:16 02/15/11 (0)

RE: The answer seems obvious, no? - regmac 09:32:31 02/15/11 (12)

Let's get away from your conjectures,... - carcass93 09:56:36 02/15/11 (11)

RE: Let's get away from your conjectures,... - mls-stl 10:55:48 02/15/11 (4)

RE: "you can blame that on my bad hearing, lack of training or mediocre system or just innate neanderthalism" - geoffkait 14:44:01 02/15/11 (0)

RE: Let's get away from your conjectures,... - john curl 13:59:14 02/15/11 (2)

Absolutely - fuse holder contacts have to be cleaned before trying. - carcass93 14:43:44 02/15/11 (0)

What about audio cables - Steyr 14:25:50 02/15/11 (0)

Let's get away from dogma. - regmac 10:39:01 02/15/11 (5)

Not to otherwise disagree with your post - Beetlemania 11:10:00 02/15/11 (0)

To most of us, raising the quality of sound reproduction is the ultimate goal. - carcass93 10:44:01 02/15/11 (3)

That'll have to be the last word, my friend. Lunch and a walk. - regmac 10:55:06 02/15/11 (2)

Would be nice If you'd learn how to use "NT" properly. - carcass93 11:02:18 02/15/11 (1)

As I said, mean-spirited. - regmac 12:27:33 02/15/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - Eric B 21:02:50 02/14/11 (0)

RE: OK, Here's a quiz - john curl 20:35:32 02/14/11 (0)

I glanced through it .... - Pinkus 19:33:11 02/14/11 (0)

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