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In Reply to: Since you don't understand timbre or tone accuracy I will have to educate you. posted by Teresa on September 9, 2012 at 19:32:58:
> > Timbre is a combination of the fundamental note and the overtone series which in most instruments extends well into the ultrasonic. < <
Ummm, very few $500 turntable (with properly associated $components/equipment$), even when setup properly ... can't extend into the ultrasonic accurately ... hell ... most can't extend past 1khz accurately.
> > Sounds like you never heard one? < <
Teresa, it's beyond any doubt that I'm far more experienced within all aspects of audio, especially turntables ... than you'll ever be.
So, please ... for your sake ... don't venture there.
> > I will grant a $50 BSR turntable is not tonally accurate but a correctly set up $500 turntable will get one about 80% of the sonic quality of a $5,000 turntable and no CD player anywhere on planet Earth can even come close. Indeed many $500 turntables easily surpasses SACD players under $2,000. And more importantly a $500 turntable is more comfortable and easier to listen to music through. < <
Another totally silly statement, proving again that you don't have the experience necessary to evaluate audio components at any level. Every educated turntable hound will state that any $500 'table won't approach the fidelity of a good $5K 'table. If you think this is true, you're fooling yourself, and unfortunately others too stupid to realize your tripe.
Even more ironic, especially for me to say to you, is that any decent SACD player (or CDP for that matter) around $2K, fed well recorded/mastered software, is going to destroy a $500 turntable in terms of overall accuracy at the frequency extremes (an area in which the vast majority of cheap cartridges, tonearms and turntables - fail accordingly).
So ... OBVIOUSLY ... if you don't achieve proper tonal accuracy at or approaching the extremes, you'll NEVER achieve proper "timbre".
> > It can only show differences in tonal colors of different cartridges, that one might want to explore. It does not give even a clue to the cartridge's audio quality. LPs do not sound good saved to 16/44.1 < <
One after another truly idiotic statements ...
What is even more incredulous on your part, is that YOU think you can educate ME on the virtues of turntables and especially LP-CDR comparisons. I've been sending & receiving LP-CDRs from reputable audiophiles for evaluation for years, therefore, unlike you ... I have the necessary knowledge & experience.
And furthermore, who said this was about cartridge quality? I said we use 16/44 to evaluate COMPLETE turntable rigs. In fact, ANY TRULY EDUCATED AUDIOPHILE (obviously not you) understands that all cartridges are slaved to the quality of the arm & turntable first & foremost, which means you simply cannot evaluate a cartridge in it's own vacuum ... without understandings it's "mount".
Teresa, as stated ... we (actual educated audiophiles) have been evaluating TURNTABLES and LP pressing qualities using LP-CDR for nearly a decade, and the results have been CONCLUSIVE & ACCURATE. Those exercises - alone - justify the medium as a viable TOOL for evaluation ... irrespective of your silly and totally irrational logic toward CD.
Teresa, this entire discussion has proven, without any doubt, that YOU simply don't understand analog as you've claim ... and obviously you don't have the necessary experience with turntables or digital for that matter, to be considered a "reviewer".
Teresa, PRETENDING ... doesn't count.
tb1
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Follow Ups
- Pretending doesn't count ... - TBone 09/10/1208:53:37 09/10/12 (1)
- Then stop pretending already! - Teresa 19:41:56 09/10/12 (0)
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