In Reply to: Question posted by John Atkinson on May 11, 2006 at 06:41:16:
It's hard to say. Judging from the nature of the quality of the state of the art of loudspeaker design, it's clear that much is not known. It is very rare that I have heard a loudspeaker from anyone which could fool even a casual listener with normal hearing that he was listening to live music and not a recording. This is after more than 100 years by countless people of collective effort.As for the state of the art of amplifier design, it should be obvious to anyone with even the meanest of logical capacity that a purely electrical device eventually reaches a level of performance where it not only passes the point of diminishing returns but the point of no returns whatsover.
The fact that these men and their competitors continue to market new products indicates that a) they have not come close to that point yet because they don't understand where it is or how to get there or b) they are compelled to continue marketing products merely for the sake of having something new to sell. In the case of Mr. Vandersteen, I think it's a), in the case of Mr. Pass, I'd say it's b).
When someone (not Mr. Pass or Mr. Vandersteen) says he cannot correlate what he measures with his subjective reaction to it and rather than bother to investigate why and do something about it by finding measurements which will correlate but instead goes back to his laboratory and resumes his "research" by trial and error, that is not science or engineering in my book, that's tinkering. And I think that is what most of those who work in this field today are doing. That is why I have so little respect for it.
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Follow Ups
- Re: Question - Soundmind 05/11/0607:17:13 05/11/06 (19)
- Re: Question - hexenboden 10:48:09 05/11/06 (0)
- Re: Question - Bruce from DC 10:15:08 05/11/06 (0)
- I pick "C" - Pjay 08:36:39 05/11/06 (16)
- Re: I pick "C" - Soundmind 09:12:40 05/11/06 (6)
- Re: I pick "C" - Pjay 11:30:16 05/11/06 (0)
- Have to agree - kerr 10:28:38 05/11/06 (1)
- Re: Have to agree - Soundmind 11:55:47 05/11/06 (0)
- "color television" huh? Tell me, when was the last time you attempted to "walk into" some scene on your TV? nt - bjh 10:07:45 05/11/06 (2)
- Yeah, if he thinks color television problems have been "solved," - Dave Pogue 11:01:16 05/11/06 (0)
- ps. Have you ever noticed that when you walk behind your TV set - bjh 10:44:44 05/11/06 (0)
- Allow me to add a point? - KlausR. 09:00:57 05/11/06 (8)
- Re: Allow me to add a point? - Soundmind 09:21:23 05/11/06 (7)
- Re: And what do you suppose would happen if actual musicians performed in your listening room? - KlausR. 09:40:47 05/11/06 (6)
- Re: And what do you suppose would happen if actual musicians performed in your listening room? - Soundmind 09:51:36 05/11/06 (5)
- Back to mono? (nt) - KlausR. 10:48:30 05/11/06 (4)
- Re: Back to mono? (nt) - Soundmind 11:46:09 05/11/06 (3)
- Use two dozen of my 'stats - E-Stat 14:40:01 05/11/06 (2)
- you won't get much privacy behind those dressing screens. - Soundmind 17:30:39 05/11/06 (1)
- The best doesn't come cheaply -t - E-Stat 18:16:21 05/11/06 (0)