In Reply to: Lack of correlation between measurements and listening posted by KlausR. on May 10, 2006 at 05:18:09:
So if the measurements are not performed in real world conditions, don't correlate to what I hear because my room, my amplifier is different from his, of what value is the review to me? If there is no way to compensate for these differences, of what value is the design since the end result is almost entirely unpredictable?"1. he is using quasi-anechoic conditions, whereas reviewers listen in a fully furnished room with more or less acoustic treatment or even digital "room correction"."
I assume by "digital room correction" you are referring to a digital equalizer. It would hardly surprise me at all to find that those who review audio equipment for a living use digital or analog equalizers, a bugaboo of audiophiles, in their own systems. I'm sure if you got them to confess, they'd have some weasely explanation as to why it makes sense for them in their particular case.
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- Re: Lack of correlation between measurements and listening - Soundmind 05/10/0610:18:43 05/10/06 (76)
- Re: Lack of correlation between measurements and listening - KlausR. 00:08:10 05/11/06 (72)
- Criticizing the critics...and the designers - Soundmind 04:34:31 05/11/06 (71)
- NOBODY listens to loudspeakers in an anechoic chamber - KlausR. 05:37:24 05/11/06 (67)
- Re: NOBODY listens to loudspeakers in an anechoic chamber - Soundmind 06:10:53 05/11/06 (66)
- Re: Polar response - KlausR. 09:12:58 05/11/06 (5)
- Re: Polar response - Soundmind 09:28:06 05/11/06 (4)
- You're welcome but... - KlausR. 09:34:17 05/11/06 (3)
- Re: You're welcome but... - Soundmind 09:47:11 05/11/06 (2)
- Polar response again - KlausR. 10:59:04 05/11/06 (1)
- Re: Polar response again - Soundmind 11:44:13 05/11/06 (0)
- Question - John Atkinson 06:41:16 05/11/06 (59)
- I answered your question, now here's one for you - Soundmind 10:15:50 05/11/06 (34)
- No - John Atkinson 12:02:54 05/11/06 (0)
- Yes, a 5-band graphic equalizer, isn't it? Did you say it was 70's vintage? (sorry, but you've no system listed). nt - bjh 10:53:23 05/11/06 (32)
- Re: Yes, a 5-band graphic equalizer, isn't it? Did you say it was 70's vintage? (sorry, but you've no system listed). nt - Soundmind 13:12:15 05/11/06 (31)
- What preamp has a built-in 5-band equalizer? -t - Bruce Kendall 15:47:16 05/11/06 (27)
- A 1974 Harman-Kardon Citation 11 - E-Stat 16:02:53 05/11/06 (26)
- Just wondering. - Bruce Kendall 18:31:56 05/11/06 (0)
- Re: A 1974 Harman-Kardon Citation 11 - Soundmind 17:34:31 05/11/06 (24)
- I'm shocked!! - E-Stat 17:40:30 05/11/06 (23)
- Re: I'm shocked!! - Soundmind 17:52:54 05/11/06 (22)
- 2 years??!! - Bruce from DC 07:55:18 05/12/06 (12)
- Re: 2 years??!! - Soundmind 08:58:41 05/12/06 (11)
- Re: "measures flat but doesn't sound flat" - Bruce from DC 15:12:02 05/12/06 (1)
- Reproducing sound to be perceived as identical to something else is always subjective, that's what perception means - Soundmind 16:03:52 05/12/06 (0)
- Since when did Behringer become an audiophile firm? - E-Stat 14:59:29 05/12/06 (8)
- What do you mean "WE" kimosabe? - Soundmind 16:13:26 05/12/06 (7)
- Are you kidding? - E-Stat 16:27:15 05/12/06 (6)
- Maybe I read your post wrong, looks like you fell off the deep end - Soundmind 17:10:20 05/12/06 (5)
- You said you didn't like how they calculated "flat" and blamed audiophiles - E-Stat 17:19:46 05/12/06 (4)
- Re: You said you didn't like how they calculated "flat" and blamed audiophiles - Soundmind 17:46:11 05/12/06 (3)
- You left out one detail - E-Stat 18:48:02 05/12/06 (2)
- Re: You left out one detail - Soundmind 19:27:23 05/12/06 (1)
- Yeah, just think how much gear that could have - bjh 14:08:14 05/13/06 (0)
- Ok, now I'm relieved - E-Stat 18:23:11 05/11/06 (8)
- Re: Ok, now I'm relieved - Soundmind 18:54:00 05/11/06 (7)
- Wow! I guess amongst graphic equalizer buffs you must be The Man! :) nt - bjh 19:21:31 05/11/06 (6)
- I find them a useful and powerful tool when properly used - Soundmind 23:38:54 05/11/06 (5)
- What audiophiles also tend to forget is... - KlausR. 08:51:08 05/12/06 (4)
- Re: What audiophiles also tend to forget is... - Soundmind 09:03:33 05/12/06 (3)
- Re: What audiophiles also tend to forget is... - Pat D 17:19:00 05/12/06 (2)
- Another funny point - Soundmind 18:19:49 05/12/06 (1)
- Have to wear the boots again with this one... - E-Stat 18:55:33 05/12/06 (0)
- Did you dispense with the BSR 10 band units? - E-Stat 13:38:38 05/11/06 (2)
- Eureka! I believe you've uncovered a means to clear the Dark Gloomy Cloud hanging over this forum, ... - bjh 13:46:32 05/11/06 (1)
- As an "irrational audiophile", I will likely surprise the hell out of SM - E-Stat 14:33:52 05/11/06 (0)
- Re: Question - RGA 07:36:19 05/11/06 (3)
- "I'm sure he'd be less hostile in person." One would hope. However... - clarkjohnsen 08:47:23 05/11/06 (0)
- "...I think a manufacturer should offer him a job" - bjh 08:35:36 05/11/06 (1)
- I was being genuine... - RGA 08:54:55 05/12/06 (0)
- Re: Question - Soundmind 07:17:13 05/11/06 (19)
- Re: Question - hexenboden 10:48:09 05/11/06 (0)
- Re: Question - Bruce from DC 10:15:08 05/11/06 (0)
- I pick "C" - Pjay 08:36:39 05/11/06 (16)
- Re: I pick "C" - Soundmind 09:12:40 05/11/06 (6)
- Re: I pick "C" - Pjay 11:30:16 05/11/06 (0)
- Have to agree - kerr 10:28:38 05/11/06 (1)
- Re: Have to agree - Soundmind 11:55:47 05/11/06 (0)
- "color television" huh? Tell me, when was the last time you attempted to "walk into" some scene on your TV? nt - bjh 10:07:45 05/11/06 (2)
- Yeah, if he thinks color television problems have been "solved," - Dave Pogue 11:01:16 05/11/06 (0)
- ps. Have you ever noticed that when you walk behind your TV set - bjh 10:44:44 05/11/06 (0)
- Allow me to add a point? - KlausR. 09:00:57 05/11/06 (8)
- Re: Allow me to add a point? - Soundmind 09:21:23 05/11/06 (7)
- Re: And what do you suppose would happen if actual musicians performed in your listening room? - KlausR. 09:40:47 05/11/06 (6)
- Re: And what do you suppose would happen if actual musicians performed in your listening room? - Soundmind 09:51:36 05/11/06 (5)
- Back to mono? (nt) - KlausR. 10:48:30 05/11/06 (4)
- Re: Back to mono? (nt) - Soundmind 11:46:09 05/11/06 (3)
- Use two dozen of my 'stats - E-Stat 14:40:01 05/11/06 (2)
- you won't get much privacy behind those dressing screens. - Soundmind 17:30:39 05/11/06 (1)
- The best doesn't come cheaply -t - E-Stat 18:16:21 05/11/06 (0)
- I beg to disagree - hexenboden 05:04:25 05/11/06 (2)
- Re: I beg to disagree - Soundmind 05:25:19 05/11/06 (1)
- LOL - hexenboden 11:04:59 05/11/06 (0)
- Bugaboo - hexenboden 18:21:00 05/10/06 (0)
- Surprise! - mkuller 12:07:42 05/10/06 (0)
- Would it be too much to ask for - bjh 10:58:15 05/10/06 (0)