In Reply to: I disagree... posted by robert young on November 13, 2005 at 09:26:24:
to get the message across?I'm not talking about playback devices and their designers/designs!
I'm talking about the record itself and the recording process. Both are loaded with compromises and trade-offs. If people like Fremer had a genuine interest in vinyl, they would cover all aspects of that technology, not only the subjectively positive ones.
Audio is not art, audio is engineering and it's engineers, hence chart-makers and number crunchers, who developed vinyl, and they didn't do that with their ears. If you read the early vinyl related papers in JAES you would see that charts and numbers are all over the place.
As for the last sentence in my previous post: I don't think I had got the grammar wrong, but what I intended to say was : imagine we have digital, we get used to that sound. Then vinyl comes up, fresh, new, with claims such as "perfect sound forever". Don't you think, given the fact that there's a basic difference in sound, that vinyl would have been bashed all day long?
Since you are mentioning Schröder, I have followed the patenting procedure closely, since it had been treated here where I work. The patent was finally granted, but Schröder was not the first to invent that magnetic bearing feature! If the case had been treated by me, the granted claims would have been very different. But it's a niche in a niche industry, so nobody cared.
Klaus
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Follow Ups
- Why is it so difficult... - KlausR. 11/14/0500:03:46 11/14/05 (12)
- audio is art directed engineering: unless you think it all sounds the same - Sordidman 11:17:41 11/15/05 (2)
- Unless proven otherwise, yes, it all sounds the same - KlausR. 00:55:35 11/16/05 (1)
- Please: either go out and get some experience, or go Troll over at Audio Circle -t - Sordidman 07:05:13 11/16/05 (0)
- Re: Why is it so difficult... - Tom Schuman 07:38:38 11/14/05 (2)
- Go listen to the Jolida JD100 tube CD player and say that (nt) - Jim Tavegia 16:14:25 11/17/05 (1)
- I said some material... - Tom Schuman 09:55:03 11/18/05 (0)
- Maybe because... - robert young 03:24:09 11/14/05 (5)
- "It is the work of inventors with ears..." Yes indeed: Versed in the Art, as they say. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:15:45 11/15/05 (0)
- We are getting further and further away from the initial message! - KlausR. 05:07:02 11/14/05 (3)
- Not really Klaus. - robert young 05:14:02 11/14/05 (2)
- Re: Not really Klaus. - KlausR. 05:39:08 11/14/05 (1)
- hoisted by your own petard - robert young 05:59:03 11/14/05 (0)