In Reply to: Re: M. Fremer on "Digital disaster", suggestion to Stereophile posted by Jim Tavegia on November 13, 2005 at 05:45:03:
was NOT that vinyl is crap and you all better sell your records a.s.a.p., but was that people like Fremer go to great lengths in criticizing digital, but never go and do the same for vinyl. Or did he?Vinyl is full of technical compromises and trade-offs, otherwise you would not be able to listen to a single record. Lateral tracking error, VTA and skating force are just the tip of the iceberg. A series of articles about the technical aspects of vinyl would be quite educative, for all parties involved.
I don't think that vinyl survival is due to folks like Fremer. People with large collections will keep them simply because it's too expensive to replace it by CD and too much trouble to record everything to CD. The new kids in town, our own kids that is, think vinyl is funny and nice to look at but then go and download more tracks to their ipod.
Some years ago, when CD recording was not available or extremely expensive, I seriously thought of recording all my records to Mini Disc and then sell them. I decided not to do that and buy a Gyrodec instead, because vinyl playback and related gear has something Mini Disc hasn't. Call it nostalgia.
Faith in audio : I don't believe for one second that rigs like Fremer's are seriously retrieving more information from the LP than less expensive ones. Why should I? Because he tells me so?
E. Geddes' first chapter of his book contains a passage that fully applies here : "Just who or what is one to trust when the nature of audio stuff is fundamentally subjective. There is no guarantee that one author's subjective opinion is any better than another author's or that one expert's opinion is any better than another."
Unless Fremer & Co. are able to back up their opinion on solid non-subjective evidence, it's not more than opinion. My opinion is different, who decides which one's right (or wrong) ?
Klaus
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- The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - KlausR. 11/13/0506:40:41 11/13/05 (23)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - Bruce from DC 08:35:39 11/14/05 (12)
- Fremer the saviour? - KlausR. 23:52:32 11/14/05 (2)
- answer to your last question: yes - Bruce from DC 06:06:02 11/15/05 (1)
- Re: answer to your last question: yes - KlausR. 00:40:00 11/16/05 (0)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - jamesgarvin 11:51:53 11/14/05 (8)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - Pat D 07:45:00 11/16/05 (6)
- Forgot to add.... - jamesgarvin 16:49:08 11/16/05 (0)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - jamesgarvin 16:42:01 11/16/05 (4)
- You are correct, and I have the evidence in my files... somewhere... nt - clarkjohnsen 08:24:01 11/18/05 (0)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - Pat D 10:26:26 11/17/05 (2)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - jamesgarvin 16:43:48 11/17/05 (1)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - Pat D 17:29:45 11/17/05 (0)
- You have exposed the curs and their curdom... for all the good that will do. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:20:09 11/15/05 (0)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - morricab 00:11:43 11/14/05 (6)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - KlausR. 05:14:11 11/14/05 (5)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - morricab 08:08:49 11/14/05 (4)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - KlausR. 09:32:25 11/14/05 (3)
- Re: The point I tried to make, but apparently without success... - morricab 02:12:58 11/17/05 (2)
- Not a fair comparison - KlausR. 07:29:34 11/17/05 (1)
- Re: Not a fair comparison - morricab 07:54:02 11/17/05 (0)
- I know what you're trying to say, but the thing is... - Bersani 10:07:06 11/13/05 (2)
- Vinyl Has Had its Share Of Lemons - Mister Pig 16:08:19 11/13/05 (0)
- I'm amazed that vinyl sounds as good as it does. - Dave Pogue 10:59:11 11/13/05 (0)