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The Real Truth (IMHO)

All components sound different and real audiophiles can hear those differences.

(That's the 100% absolute truth!)
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There's no reason to prove this because proof is not demanded.

(Why do I or anyone else for that matter, have to prove anything to you or anyone else? I'm/we're in this hobby for my/our enjoyment only. What you believe or say plays no part in that experience)
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The reviewers can say whatever they feel like saying about a component -- there's no need to prove they can really hear a difference at all because those with money (the readers, advertisers, and potential advertisers) believe the myth and will attack or ignore any contrary data. That's how beliefs are kept alive.

(It's true that the reviewers can say whatever they feel like saying about a component. However, if what they say isn't also experienced by the many people who read their magazines and then hear the component reviewed, said reviewer WILL BE called to the carpet for their remarks and usually quite harshly, here in AA and in their letters section. We often see that exact thing happen, where the reviewer is challenged to explain how they came to their conclusions! The ONLY myth here is your belief that this isn't true!)
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For speaker reviews the brand/model differences are easily audible, but this is very unlikely to apply to electronics and wires where objective audiophiles in the past three decades have rarely been able to hear the alleged differences that are so easily "heard" in subjective auditions ... that "even the wife could hear them".

(I honestly don't know why objective audiophiles cannot hear differences that are easily audible to subjective audiophiles! Perhaps the real reason is objective audiophiles believe so deeply that differeneces do not exist, that these beliefs prevent them from hearing them? (Kind of like when the objectivist claims that because subjectivist see a brand name we hear a difference in reverse.) Perhaps they have poor equipment? Perhaps their poor hearing is what makes them an objective audiophile in the first place? IE they cannot hear a difference so THAT proves no difference exists?)
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The result of participating in a blind audition is a better understanding of how easily differences among audio components can be heard while listening to music.

(Says you...for me to believe that you'll have prove it!)
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The result is not likely to be pleasant -- actual hearing ability tends to be a lot worse than participants believed before the experiment.

(Says you...again I say you'll have to prove it!)
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Participants do not walk away claiming the experiment was faulty -- only non-participants make that claim!

(From what I'm now reading it appears that you, Richard BassNut Greene feel you can say whatever you feel like saying about a DBTs --yet there's no need for you to prove it's true. If you want me to believe that statement PROVE IT!)
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The best way to avoid this unpleasant reality is to attack all audiophiles who participate in objective listening experiments and never participate in one yourself.

(Oh Richard in my experience it's the objective audiophiles who create this unpleasant reality you speak of. They do it by insisting that subjective audiophiles participate in the objectivist imposed objective listening experiments. IMHO subjective audiophiles feel why do we have to prove anything to you or anyone else? I'll repeat-- I'm/we're in this hobby for my/our enjoyment only. What you believe or say plays no part in that experience. Why can you not leave us in peace? Believe what you want and we'll believe what we want.)
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It's easy to believe you have superior hearing (or any other ability) ... if you never have to prove it.

(Who are you or any other subjective audiophile that objectivist audiophiles have to prove anything to you? You don't believe what we say? So Be It! I for one don't care if you believe I hear differences or not. I'm sure most other objective audiophiles feel the same way. I know it doesn't bother me that when you claim the differences subjective audiophiles hear aren't real, so why does it bother you so much that subjective audiophiles claim they can hear them? Again I'll say Richard in my experience it's the objective audiophiles (like you) who create this unpleasant atmosphere by refusing to leave subjectivists to believe what they do.)
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So say only good things about audio, never challenge the 'everything sounds different myth' by doing experiments, and always attack the motives or methodology of EVERYONE who does such "evil" experiments.

(First IMHO I don't believe subjective audiophiles say only good things about audio. Second subjective audiophiles don't always attack the motives or methodology of EVERYONE who does such "evil" experiments. Instead subjective audiophiles typically are defending themselves when attacked by people like you! Who demand we prove our claims of hearing differences in components.

But I ask you what vested interest do I have in hearing differences? I'm disabled and until recently lived on a fixed income EVERY audio purchase I made required months and sometimes years of saving. I wished someone made a $500 solidstate integrated amp that sounded like my Mastersound Reference 845, or $50 interconnects that sound like my Z-Squared Au/Au's etc. Unfortuantely no one does and I hear the differences in these components. So I save and buy the ones that sound the most realistic to me. If there's anything "evil" here it's people like you who constantly create turmoil by demanding of them proof of their claims. Why not just let them enjoy their hobby? I'll repeat myself again "Why do you care if I hear differences in audio components? I certainly don't care that you cannot!)
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Most audiophiles are perfectly happy with their audio myths.
Why let audio reality get in the way of happiness?

(The truth is most audiphiles are happy with their audio beliefs (not myths)whether they're objectivists or subjectvists. It isn't reality that gets in the way of our happiness. It's people like you who refuse to allow others to believe differently than you! Rather than adopt a live and let live attitude, you constantly attack those who don't agree with your belief system. I now challenge you to prove to me that you cannot hear differences in audio components! Just saying it won't suffice, prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. For all I know you can hear differences, but just say you cannot. So prove to me that you cannot.)
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Anything objective audiophiles say is attacked: Bad ears. Bad stereo.
Bad methodology. Participants were too pressured. The dog ate the paper.

(Once again how wrong you are. Subjectivists are usually defending themselves from people like Richard BassNut Greene who attack them because their beliefs aren't his beiefs. That's the real evil here. You claim you don't hear differences, I claim I do and I'll be happy to prove it to you. Come to Orlando, Fla. and we'll use my system which I'm intimately familiar with. I will tell you EVERYTIME time you change any one component in the system. Whether it's the integrated amp, CD player, speakers, or wires. So now I've accepted your challenge---now what's your excuse why we don't do this?)

Thetubeguy1954



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