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In Reply to: Yes, But, Mahler Said posted by Ferrous Oxide on December 1, 2021 at 20:09:10:
to provide profound truth -- not something, AFAIK, that we could readily find in 19th Century or prior classical music. The "rarified experience" could surely be attributed to 20/21 reality (thinking a couple of world wars here, paired with a few sides of genocide and an amuse bouche of pure barbarism).
To me, it is only if we remove our historic prejudices regarding the shape and content of classical music, and align ourselves with the underlying intentions of hardness, alienation and, perhaps, anger that we can begin to sympathize with a lot of what has recently taken place in musical composition. For me (anyway), this is the true value of Shostakovich and Prokofiev -- they were the last major bridges between the glance back and the Post WWII bleakness.
Mahler is quaint by comparison!:-)
If we reject ugly and violent as artistic expression, IMO, we are striking at the root of dislike of many towards most of what is taking place in contemporary classical music. Also, IMO, this change will never be reversed -- unless, of course, we are talking about politically correct children's books. At least, that would be my take on things given the parallel direction that literature, philosophy and the culture at large have been, and continue to be, heading. Cue Elgar's nobilmente...
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Follow Ups
- Pretty sure that a lot of 20th/21st Century art aims at ugly... - SE 12/2/2106:02:43 12/2/21 (8)
- I'm still waiting for archaeologists to uncover the filing cabinet that holds all the late 20th C tonal - jdaniel@jps.net 07:00:59 12/2/21 (7)
- BTW, I appreciate your reference to "extremist Academics" [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 11:35:51 12/2/21 (0)
- "'istener-friendly' late 20th C works" - Chris from Lafayette 11:32:34 12/2/21 (4)
- I greatly enjoy Ligeti, but I am amazed that you consider him... - SE 12:16:08 12/2/21 (3)
- Ligeti's Piano Etudes are indeed listener friendly IMHO - Chris from Lafayette 17:54:28 12/2/21 (1)
- I have to tell you, Chris... - SE 05:15:04 12/7/21 (0)
- I'm late-comer to Malcolm Arnold, thanks to TAS list - jdaniel@jps.net 17:53:35 12/2/21 (0)
- For new(er) works, I actually stay away from anything too "retro"... - SE 08:36:20 12/2/21 (0)