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In Reply to: Academi-Babble Riding High - Brahms Didn't Compose Symphony 1 posted by Ferrous Oxide on November 8, 2021 at 21:43:28:
that essay is a philosophy work with a slippery title. It is clearly not attempting to make a musicological argument, so the academics in that discipline are safe. To put it in a nutshell, speaking existentially, all knowledge is in "the present" -- even history itself (I'm not saying I believe this, it's just the conceptual argument). The most concise way to reach the end of the logical argument is to state that we all die, and when we die we have no proof that we can recall any of the "present" we experienced or, in fact, that any of it was real. From this perspective, to the author's point, it is not even a question of whether Brahms wrote his First (or any symphony), but whether symphonies/music ever existed at all.
Don't blame me!:-)...philosophy is what it is. This type of Speculative Philosophy isn't babble any more than fictional writing is worthless because it isn't "factual" -- it is a form of intellectualism that could arguably be extended into realms such as religious faith and even science itself. A simple shift in physical reality and all bets are off!:-)
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- In defense of musicology... - SE 11/9/2100:13:33 11/9/21 (10)
- RE: In defense of musicology... +1 - PAR 03:50:56 11/9/21 (4)
- I'm think I'm getting the point now; it's not a "Did Bach write the Dm Toccata and Fugue?" kind of thing - jdaniel@jps.net 07:01:56 11/9/21 (3)
- Excellent analysis! I'm going to apply it to more posts around here! [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 10:40:33 11/9/21 (1)
- "Posts without meaning authored by no one."... - SE 11:00:53 11/9/21 (0)
- Yes -- that's very funny!:-)... - SE 08:19:30 11/9/21 (0)
- Well. . . OK. . . (but I like my explanation above better!) ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 01:52:13 11/9/21 (4)
- Maybe...but it seems a bit too indirect for a parody... - SE 04:22:34 11/9/21 (3)
- might be a parody on philosophy - Analog Scott 09:47:43 11/9/21 (2)
- actual analytic philosophy isn't like this - DrChaos 15:55:38 11/10/21 (1)
- RE: actual analytic philosophy isn't like this - Analog Scott 21:40:13 11/14/21 (0)