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In Reply to: RE: I'm afraid my experience with classic mono jazz recordings. . . posted by Analog Scott on September 6, 2019 at 14:51:31:
It should be fairly obvious you can't hear depth in any recording since you are listening to speakers that are very likely equal in distance to you, the listener. You certainly can get an illusion of depth listening to either a mono or stereo recording. But it is an aural illusion and may or may not represent the actual physical depth present at the original acoustic event.
OF COURSE it's an aural illusion - and the more accurate the playback, the more the "illusion" will represent the actual physical depth to a attentive listener. But you were just saying in your previous post that you "believe" we can't hear depth at all in a mono recording. That's obviously (!) wrong, as the papers I quoted reiterate. Furthermore, I've already explained how one can perceive depth in a mono recording in one of the papers I quoted - it has to do with the attenuation of high frequencies over distance, the change in the mixture of live and reflected sound - both of these things perceptible in a mono recording. - Let me ask you a question: have you ever had the experience of sound seeming to emanate from behind your speakers? Let me remind you that many audiophiles HAVE had this experience.
You aren't hearing depth by aural cues alone. without the visual cues and/or prior knowledge of basic orchestral set ups no one would be able to identify the relative absolute distances of the musicians to the listener.
You say "relative absolute distances". Which is it, relative or absolute? In any case, when you're listening to a recording, you're hearing distance(s) from the microphone(s). And as far as your visual cues assertion, that's already been dealt with in a previous post, since listeners can simply close their eyes when they want to. I think you've been awe-struck by that McGurk demonstration, which you're now attempting to employ far beyond its actual applicability.
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Follow Ups
- We use the word, "obvious", when we don't have actual arguments - Chris from Lafayette 09/6/1915:19:53 09/6/19 (5)
- OK I will rephrase it. - Analog Scott 15:54:34 09/6/19 (4)
- Maybe your aural memories are vague, but mine are not ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 01:26:47 09/7/19 (3)
- Right, who should I believe science or Chris????? - Analog Scott 13:19:05 09/7/19 (2)
- You flatter yourself if you think your opinions are science - Chris from Lafayette 19:15:09 09/7/19 (1)
- RE: You flatter yourself if you think your opinions are science - Analog Scott 09:36:40 09/8/19 (0)