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Topic - Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - Kristian85 13:34:42 01/8/04 (111)

How about an OTL with damping factor above 100... - Tom Dawson 16:46:18 01/13/04 (1)

Btw, tube amp distortion a lot less of a problem than CD PCM quantization - Tom Dawson 16:50:37 01/13/04 (0)

Saw your system....It sucks. - GEO 18:37:10 01/10/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - pp man 16:08:06 01/10/04 (0)

You are right - Jojo 13:36:54 01/10/04 (1)

Re: You are right - AbeCollins 04:03:22 01/11/04 (0)

It is all about the Sound - why1504 06:53:27 01/10/04 (3)

That's true, but most guitar players prefer tube amps... - RAFG 09:08:14 01/10/04 (2)

Re: That's true, but most guitar players prefer tube amps... - Rich_A 02:01:34 01/12/04 (0)

I Agree! - why1504 06:30:06 01/11/04 (0)

Hey Kristian...don't think too much about all this.. - Audio Pharaoh 16:01:08 01/9/04 (0)

TROLL ALERT!! So what is your point??? - AbeCollins 13:08:50 01/9/04 (2)

Re: TROLL ALERT!! So what is your point??? - Kristian85 13:32:38 01/9/04 (1)

OR a Dr. Draz routine:-)) Sorry Abe ..just cudn't resist..n/t - Audio Pharaoh 15:56:19 01/9/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - SOR 09:03:23 01/9/04 (0)

Why don't you post this in the Tube Asylum? {NT} - bart 08:51:45 01/9/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - Dan Banquer 08:50:59 01/9/04 (3)

No way! - GliderGuider 09:10:54 01/9/04 (2)

Re: No way! - Hyperion 06:52:42 01/10/04 (0)

Re: No way! - Dan Banquer 09:55:52 01/9/04 (0)

Good catch - look at all dem fishes on yer hook! nt. - daleda 07:58:28 01/9/04 (4)

Right you are, except - Bruce from DC 08:09:53 01/9/04 (3)

Re: Right you are, except - Kristian85 08:37:03 01/9/04 (2)

Still Nibbling ! - Bill Galbraith 05:10:15 01/11/04 (0)

Re: Right you are, except - jb0194 15:13:35 01/10/04 (0)

I'm more interested in what sounds good - thereminJames 07:34:58 01/9/04 (0)

Abecollins; Ozzy; DeKay; Gliderguider; RAFG: - Kristian85 07:24:59 01/9/04 (2)

Fundamental disconnect - GliderGuider 07:49:48 01/9/04 (1)

Re: Fundamental disconnect - Kristian85 08:15:32 01/9/04 (1)

Troll ahoy! - RAFG 06:48:12 01/9/04 (0)

Yawn - GliderGuider 05:54:47 01/9/04 (0)

Hi Fidelity Is as Hi Fidelity Does - Quint 05:13:32 01/9/04 (1)

Ditto's! Tenor's are the real deal.... - panorama 01/9/0406:58:23 01/9/04 (0)

They are and the reason is relatively simple... - morricab 05:00:33 01/9/04 (2)

Re: They are and the reason is relatively simple... - Biencfg 19:18:16 01/9/04 (0)

That is essentially the gist of Cheever's thesis - enzo 08:22:09 01/9/04 (0)

Yes, are High Fidelity devices. - ramallo 03:15:29 01/9/04 (0)

You can keep your Bryston, - Ozzy 01:25:00 01/9/04 (0)

You aren't the first here to be more concerned about measurements than music. nt - Fiddler 01:20:23 01/9/04 (0)

You obviously don't get it.... - AbeCollins 22:35:01 01/8/04 (0)

Who listens to measurements? - stevenk 21:09:01 01/8/04 (0)

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... - DeKay 20:57:23 01/8/04 (2)

You should take care of - Kristian85 22:21:01 01/8/04 (1)

***snort:::ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... NT - DeKay 17:52:02 01/9/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - hahax 20:25:00 01/8/04 (0)

Yes they are! - Rhocken 20:22:02 01/8/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - RBrezins 15:37:09 01/8/04 (2)

Those are damn fine measurements... - enzo 15:46:03 01/8/04 (1)

Re: Those are damn fine measurements... - RBrezins 16:17:44 01/8/04 (0)

So, is High-Fidelity fidelity to the 'recording' or the 'recorded'? ; ) nt - PureAudio 15:28:56 01/8/04 (0)

Re: What's better, a car that handles better with good tires or.... - Russ57 15:08:31 01/8/04 (5)

technically speaking your simile is - Kristian85 16:52:37 01/8/04 (3)

You just subverted your whole argument against tubes. - morricab 05:17:44 01/9/04 (2)

Certainly not, - Kristian85 07:31:22 01/9/04 (1)

Re: Certainly not, - morricab 17:40:46 01/9/04 (0)

"I dare to think my tubes are inherently more accurate, quicker and more dynamic, have far better low level..." - enzo 15:41:27 01/8/04 (0)

Damn trouble maker! - hifi heretic 14:43:03 01/8/04 (0)

I hate having arguments about "definitions" . . . - J North 14:37:31 01/8/04 (30)

kristian85 is relating the term "hi-fi" to subjectively good sound - enzo 14:39:56 01/8/04 (29)

No, - Kristian85 15:11:25 01/8/04 (10)

Oh, Oh, Another definition . . . - J North 15:33:43 01/8/04 (0)

Re: No, - enzo 15:19:00 01/8/04 (8)

SET lovers cannot - Kristian85 15:48:55 01/8/04 (7)

what signal are we talking about? Sine waves or... - morricab 05:23:20 01/9/04 (3)

Re: what signal are we talking about? Sine waves or... - Kristian85 07:38:26 01/9/04 (2)

Re: what signal are we talking about? Sine waves or... - morricab 17:50:59 01/9/04 (0)

Re: what signal are we talking about? Sine waves or... - bart 08:01:20 01/9/04 (0)

The thesis proposes that SETs muck up the sound much less... - enzo 15:59:38 01/8/04 (0)

Re: SET lovers cannot - J North 15:52:45 01/8/04 (1)

Unless the amp is psychic.... - rp1@surfnetusa.com 17:35:28 01/11/04 (0)

Re: kristian85 is relating the term "hi-fi" to subjectively good sound - J North 14:54:32 01/8/04 (17)

..."his argument is based purely on "measurements"..." - enzo 14:59:56 01/8/04 (16)

I agree 100% (nt) - morricab 05:24:51 01/9/04 (0)

Re: ..."his argument is based purely on "measurements"..." - J North 15:10:04 01/8/04 (14)

Re: ..."his argument is based purely on "measurements"..." - morricab 05:35:01 01/9/04 (0)

Re: ..."his argument is based purely on "measurements"..." - enzo 15:28:02 01/8/04 (11)

Re: ..."his argument is based purely on "measurements"..." - J North 15:38:04 01/8/04 (10)

On the contrary... - enzo 15:50:44 01/8/04 (9)

Re: On the contrary... - J North 16:01:15 01/8/04 (8)

Re: On the contrary... - enzo 16:11:45 01/8/04 (7)

Re: On the contrary... - morricab 05:40:28 01/9/04 (6)

Re: On the contrary... - Tom Gobba 17:50:46 01/9/04 (3)

Re: On the contrary... - morricab 17:56:59 01/9/04 (2)

Re: On the contrary... - Tom Gobba 08:56:47 01/10/04 (0)

Re: On the contrary... - Tom Gobba 18:06:15 01/9/04 (0)

This thesis was discussed earlier... - enzo 16:22:51 01/9/04 (0)

Here's the link... - enzo 08:10:18 01/9/04 (0)

Re: ..."his argument is based purely on "measurements"..." - Kristian85 15:13:36 01/8/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - J North 14:18:28 01/8/04 (12)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - enzo 14:37:29 01/8/04 (11)

Maybe - J North 14:46:30 01/8/04 (10)

Maybe I have ulterior motives... ;) - enzo 14:55:48 01/8/04 (9)

Re: Maybe I have ulterior motives... ;) - J North 15:48:54 01/8/04 (2)

HCA-2: Stereophile Class A - enzo 16:14:17 01/8/04 (1)

Re: HCA-2: Stereophile Class A - J North 19:31:39 01/8/04 (0)

How can 4 drunken hooligans, . . . - J North 15:04:07 01/8/04 (5)

First of all, I wasn't that drunk... - enzo 15:31:35 01/8/04 (4)

Re: First of all, I wasn't that drunk... - J North 15:39:29 01/8/04 (3)

You guys, quit being so polite and take the gloves off! - AbeCollins 04:20:28 01/11/04 (2)

Re: You guys, quit being so polite and take the gloves off! - Mickey 17:55:16 01/16/04 (0)

A bit of friendly sparring can't hurt, can it? . . . - J North 08:28:25 01/11/04 (0)

Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Most definitely. - enzo 14:07:51 01/8/04 (5)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Most definitely. - Bruce from DC 08:07:51 01/9/04 (0)

Sure, but - Kristian85 15:06:33 01/8/04 (3)

Don't think anyone would ever claim tubes excel in bass control per se... - enzo 16:22:07 01/8/04 (0)

Uh, there is his definition of "Hi-Fi". . . . - J North 15:25:29 01/8/04 (1)

It necessarily has to be - Kristian85 16:09:36 01/8/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - Peter 14:03:18 01/8/04 (3)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - hahax 20:27:15 01/8/04 (0)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - Kristian85 14:05:12 01/8/04 (1)

Re: Tube amps as High Fidelity devices? Not. - hahax 10:57:53 01/9/04 (0)

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Ditto's! Tenor's are the real deal.... - panorama 01/9/0406:58:23 01/9/04 (0)