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In Reply to: Re: "Ancient technology used by the Greeks" posted by geoffkait on November 21, 2006 at 06:42:30:
and the second nice thing is that you can move them for specific adjustments in ways that no equalizer on the market is capable of... there have been some reports that the "basic" copper-silver alloy actually removes vibratory modes... I suppose this is possible if it can absorb enough kinetic energy and spectrally reshape it in a way that the ear does not perceive... seems that the little wooden pedestals have something to do with this... I've tested them nekkid, no pedestal, and they are quite different w/o the maple base... on the major positive side of the equation, they don't deaden the room like fibergalss batts will.... in the final analysis, you WILL need three or four room tuning modalities, some tube trap, some QR products, some wall panel, some Tchang... I have never heard a room, and I've visited some damn expensive rooms, that succeeded from overkill of any one product or approach... unless you're considering a full on Russ Berger custom interior which will cost you some heavy coin and a few years wait time.... if cost is a factor, clean up your corners first... my first choice would always be tube traps in the corners, that's where the real junk is emanating from, then I'd consider some wooden QR squares on the first reflection points of the side walls, the fiberglass acoustic bags on the wall behind, THEN worry about the resonators.... in the meantime you might consider a *basic* or two behind the speakers to clear up the "sog" ... the rest depends a lot on you listening style, what you listen for, how long you like to listen, what kind of material turns you on... just like I love carbon fiber interconnects and tolerate their deficiencies in compensation for what the do so well, with that set up, a *silver* resonator about 1 foot outside of each speaker, positioned between the woofer and tweeter, and on the same plane as the speaker face (not on the wall behind in this case) was awesome.... really awesome...
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Topic - Acoustic System Resonators - follow-up - KlausR. 23:23:28 11/17/06 ( 40)
- Re: Acoustic System Resonators - follow-up - Tuckers 19:01:12 11/21/06 ( 9)
- Re: Acoustic System Resonators - follow-up - Tuckers 13:00:38 11/27/06 ( 1)
- Re: There is an acoustic theory - KlausR. 06:20:28 11/28/06 ( 0)
- Re: We have a reasonable acoustic explanation. - KlausR. 01:40:16 11/22/06 ( 6)
- dude, I'm actively experimenting with these in multiple settings - tonemaniac 08:35:52 11/22/06 ( 5)
- Re: different alloys do distinctly different things... - KlausR. 10:00:15 11/22/06 ( 4)
- were you some kind of psychologist in your previous incarnation ? - tonemaniac 10:43:50 11/22/06 ( 3)
- Re: I trust my perceptions - KlausR. 21:51:55 11/22/06 ( 2)
- How can we when we have no idea what this mysterious "challenge" is - tonemaniac 00:27:13 11/23/06 ( 1)
- Re: reading about contemporary neuroscience - KlausR. 21:21:51 11/23/06 ( 0)
I own 7 of them, they work better than advertized, however... - tonemaniac 15:48:15 11/20/06 ( 13)
- You look like the ideal candidate for my test CD!!! - KlausR. 05:18:03 11/22/06 ( 0)
Science, pseudoscience, spurious explanations of real phenomena - bartc 20:46:08 11/20/06 ( 11)
- The effects, when properly set up, are unmistakable - tonemaniac 05:26:34 11/21/06 ( 10)
- And you are describing an ancient technology - bartc 06:01:20 11/21/06 ( 9)
- Re: And you are describing an ancient technology - Steve Eddy 13:34:47 11/21/06 ( 3)
- I suspect there are 2 resonance characteristics at least in play - bartc 15:54:30 11/21/06 ( 2)
- Re: I suspect there are 2 resonance characteristics at least in play - Steve Eddy 19:05:25 11/21/06 ( 1)
- Well you got me there - bartc 21:02:57 11/21/06 ( 0)
- Re: "Ancient technology used by the Greeks" - geoffkait 06:42:30 11/21/06 ( 4)
- well, the nice thing is they stay out of the signal chain - tonemaniac 11/21/06 09:30:54 11/21/06 ( 1)
- Re: "they stay out of the signal chain" - geoffkait 14:44:05 11/21/06 ( 0)
- Don't you have anything better to do... - Wellfed 09:27:49 11/21/06 ( 1)
- Re: Better shape up or I'll - geoffkait 11:21:49 11/21/06 ( 0)
How I would "translate" explanation c... - Steve Parry 23:39:48 11/17/06 ( 6)
- Do we have to re-write the acoustics textbooks? (nt) - KlausR. 01:54:30 11/18/06 ( 4)
- As though they don't need to be rewritten, if only the science were more complete. nt - Norm 10:32:09 11/23/06 ( 2)
- Maybe it takes more than a French goldsmith and a review in 6moons! nt - KlausR. 01:04:31 11/25/06 ( 1)
- Re: Stereo Times review, Nov 2004 - geoffkait 02:53:51 11/26/06 ( 0)
- Re: Pop over to General Asylum and - geoffkait 16:25:50 11/18/06 ( 0)
Hah, for little bells, I would hope not!...though one can be... - Steve Parry 07:24:01 11/18/06 ( 0)
Re: Acoustic System Resonators - follow-up - zako 06:45:09 11/18/06 ( 0)
Maybe the toilet bowl is the real reason - The Killer Piglet 11:44:45 11/18/06 ( 1)
- Is it better if the bowl is half empty or half full ?nt - JB 10:54:32 11/21/06 ( 0)
How 's the resarch Re: your unsubstantiated claims about standing waves inside a speaker enclosure coming along? - bjh 17:06:06 11/18/06 ( 2)
- Grow up, kid, then we talk (nt) - KlausR. 22:04:56 11/18/06 ( 1)
- Aggression won't make your problem go away. nt - bjh 05:46:21 11/19/06 ( 0)
And this is on Critic's Corner why? (nt) - mkuller 19:29:30 11/19/06 ( 0)
And what did you think when you tried them? - Sordidman 11:11:27 11/20/06 ( 1)
- Those that say don't know, Those that know don't say... Lao Tzu - tonemaniac 15:50:32 11/20/06 ( 0)