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In Reply to: Re: How will *your* amp do in *my* house? posted by dave slagle on November 19, 2003 at 09:23:20:
Dave,I understand that most hobbyists don't care about measurements, rules of thumb, or established design practices (in the "engineering" sense). I also understand that they don't design amps with the intention that other people try them out and build them, or design amps that could be used with any system other than their own.
I think this discussion is for those who do.
If you want to build a 2A3 SE amp that does a clean 1/2 watt - please be my guest, I wish you all the luck. But I fail to see how a discussion of such an amp is relevant here, or how transferring that knowledge is useful to anyone else.
If you aren't building amps that are improvements past designs, then you're merely tube rolling. The initial poster asked for *improvements* on the Angela 2A3 driver stage. Suggesting a driver stage with worse performance is not an improvement, by anybody's standards. And by what standards do we evaluate possible improvements to offer him? Gee, I guess we better come up with some objective parameters, huh?So, instead of being critical of my attempt to frame the discussion, perhaps you have a design to offer? Or can you contribute to a discussion of why the Angela SRPP dirver is a good idea, etc.? This would be far more useful than calling me comical for trying to decide what a fair minimum output for his cd player would be.
> > and how did you measure the Z-out of your CD player... sure seems high...> >
I first measured the open terminal voltage while a test disc was playing a 2vRMS 1kHz signal. I then put a pot across the terminals and adjusted it until I read 1vRMS at the output. Removing the pot and measuring its resistance gave 1050 ohms.
joel
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Topic - Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - Tubefever 09:05:39 11/17/03 ( 57)
- Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - keto 15:15:33 11/19/03 ( 0)
Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - Sector-7G 14:07:03 11/19/03 ( 0)
Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - C.Y 01:43:05 11/19/03 ( 0)
Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - Hifitom 14:02:32 11/17/03 ( 45)
- Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - Joelt 18:36:06 11/17/03 ( 0)
Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - kurt s 14:19:53 11/17/03 ( 43)
- Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - dave slagle 07:46:29 11/19/03 ( 0)
ECC99 sounds great! - AudioGenesis 18:26:59 11/17/03 ( 40)
- Hi Robert - Anthony Dockrill 22:32:32 11/18/03 ( 0)
Re: ECC99 sounds great! - kurt s 21:34:33 11/17/03 ( 0)
One stage is not enough. - Joelt 19:01:02 11/17/03 ( 37)
- Re: One stage is not enough. - MQracing 11:21:19 11/18/03 ( 1)
- Re: Recommendations for 2 stages - Tubefever 11:56:30 11/18/03 ( 0)
Re: One stage is not enough. - Dave Cigna 10:35:50 11/18/03 ( 32)
- rated power - Joelt 11:28:29 11/18/03 ( 31)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - Paul Joppa 20:32:09 11/18/03 ( 22)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - Joelt 06:47:38 11/19/03 ( 21)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - Damir 12:17:13 11/19/03 ( 2)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - dave slagle 19:09:34 11/19/03 ( 1)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - Joelt 20:37:51 11/19/03 ( 0)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - Dave Cigna 10:13:17 11/19/03 ( 4)
- oh brother... - Joelt 11:15:03 11/19/03 ( 3)
- Re: oh brother... - MQracing 16:35:33 11/19/03 ( 1)
- if we're being honest... - Dave Cigna 17:15:02 11/19/03 ( 0)
- oh brother is right! - Dave Cigna 14:33:53 11/19/03 ( 0)
- Re: rated power ... and CD players - dave slagle 07:34:36 11/19/03 ( 12)
- How will *your* amp do in *my* house? - Joelt 08:04:08 11/19/03 ( 11)
- Re: How will *your* amp do in *my* house? - dave slagle 09:23:20 11/19/03 ( 10)
- Re: How will *your* amp do in *my* house? - MQracing 16:47:26 11/19/03 ( 8)
- Re: How will *your* amp do in *my* house? - dave slagle 19:46:38 11/19/03 ( 7)
- an' teach him to fish, an' he'll sit on the bank and drink beer all day. - Sector-7G 19:58:27 11/19/03 ( 6)
- Re: an' teach him to fish, an' he'll sit on the bank and drink beer all day. - dave slagle 20:19:23 11/19/03 ( 5)
- Quit trolling, guys! [nt] - J Epstein 10:07:17 11/20/03 ( 3)
- Dave Slagle and Dave Cigna trolls?.................... - Snake Anthony. 15:22:04 11/20/03 ( 2)
- It's true! - Dave Cigna 16:09:18 11/20/03 ( 1)
- DUMBO - J Epstein 07:38:37 11/21/03 ( 0)
- Re: an' teach him to fish, an' he'll sit on the bank and drink beer all day. - lampa 21:23:43 11/19/03 ( 0)
- please contribute something *useful* for god's sake - Joelt 11/19/03 09:52:18 11/19/03 ( 0)
My mistake.... - Dave Cigna 15:52:11 11/18/03 ( 0)
Why not ??? - lampa 14:32:41 11/18/03 ( 5)
- still doesn't work - Joelt 07:09:30 11/19/03 ( 3)
- Re: still doesn't work - lampa 11:31:53 11/19/03 ( 2)
- Re: still doesn't work - Joelt 11:49:46 11/19/03 ( 1)
- Re: still doesn't work - lampa 12:08:13 11/19/03 ( 0)
Re: Why not ??? - AudioGenesis 17:29:18 11/18/03 ( 0)
Re: Does SRPP count as one stage or two? (nt) - Tubefever 14:23:23 11/18/03 ( 0)
Re: One stage is (not) enough. - Damir 06:33:50 11/18/03 ( 1)
- Re: One stage is (not) enough. - Joelt 06:55:11 11/18/03 ( 0)
Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - Hifitom 16:06:24 11/17/03 ( 0)
try 5965, 6N1p, 12AZ7 - TubeCraft 13:45:27 11/17/03 ( 0)
12AY7 is a classic (nt) - Paul Joppa 09:34:23 11/17/03 ( 3)
- Re: What confuguration for 12AY7? (nt) - Tubefever 12:48:16 11/17/03 ( 2)
- SRPP - Alan Breece 18:18:53 11/17/03 ( 1)
- Re: Thanks (nt) - Tubefever 11:58:36 11/18/03 ( 0)
Re: Input/driver for 2A3 parafeed - Joelt 09:28:02 11/17/03 ( 2)
- what schematic software do you use? beautiful <nt> - Mqracing 17:17:15 11/19/03 ( 1)
- Re: what schematic software do you use? beautiful <nt> - Joelt 20:21:24 11/19/03 ( 0)