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In Reply to: Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... posted by theaudiohobby on December 3, 2004 at 15:35:34:
Well, since you got on your high horse anyway, let me explain that I'm FAR more familiar with B&W product than I'd like to be, having worked at a store that sold them and having traded in 60+ pairs of them. Heck, I've got 2 sets and a center sitting in my store right now used.Now, that aside, B&W manages to get decent sound from bad design. They don't use proportional design, their woofers are almost always underdamped, with the possible exception of the N800, the FST design is pure folly (as far as I can see, it would just exacerbate the problems with Kevlar), the tweeters have a "tent-shaped" FR with the peak ~10K, the cabinet construction is subpar (the 600 series doesn't even use MDF), the crossover points are poorly chosen and I could go on. The current crossover parts are at least pretty decent. But that's about it. So, you can try to dismiss my commentary as irrelevant, but it's perfectly rational and non-biased. I can think of dozens of brands that build better product for the price, but aren't as popular.
If you think my commentary isn't valid, I suggest you research Kevin Voecks's work as well as Lynn Olson's and others that do good speakers based on good science. As for your insuation about NHT's new digital design, the concept may be 10 years old, but the algorithms and DSP technology, as well as implementation are cutting edge. And, while they WILL be matched by other companies with similar designs, they are way ahead of the curve and there's more than enough documentation to support that. I wouldn't have brought it up, but since you did.......................
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Topic - Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - bluesky 20:03:00 11/30/04 ( 34)
- B&W excellent marketing-you pay for that ! - Blue Bull 20:34:34 12/3/04 ( 0)
The B & W 705 is a very fine speaker! - Pat D 14:33:15 12/3/04 ( 0)
well the CDM 1NT sounded better and cost less... - RGA 19:17:22 12/2/04 ( 17)
- From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - RGA 19:36:33 12/2/04 ( 16)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 02:11:24 12/3/04 ( 15)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 11:03:14 12/3/04 ( 14)
- You understood my comments perfectly - layman 15:52:42 12/5/04 ( 1)
- Re: You understood my comments perfectly - John Ashman 14:30:16 12/6/04 ( 1)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 15:35:34 12/3/04 ( 11)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - morricab 09:20:35 12/4/04 ( 0)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 12/3/04 18:54:06 12/3/04 ( 7)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 14:50:02 12/4/04 ( 6)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 16:00:56 12/4/04 ( 5)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 15:15:48 12/5/04 ( 4)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 20:27:27 12/5/04 ( 3)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 05:30:48 12/6/04 ( 2)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 11:13:09 12/6/04 ( 0)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 09:28:17 12/6/04 ( 0)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - RGA 18:47:36 12/3/04 ( 1)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 14:05:36 12/4/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Oskar25 10:19:07 12/1/04 ( 1)
- Re: Oskar,thanks for input. - bluesky 21:39:55 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Bombaywalla 08:40:42 12/1/04 ( 1)
- Re: Bombaywalla,thanks for input. - bluesky 21:38:32 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Bandit 06:25:22 12/1/04 ( 2)
- off topic - theaudiohobby 07:24:28 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Bandit,thanks for input. - bluesky 06:37:27 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Toddd 06:04:16 12/1/04 ( 2)
- Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - RGA 19:19:50 12/2/04 ( 0)
Re: I guess that the B&W 703's would be not matched well with the amps. - bluesky 06:19:39 12/1/04 ( 0)
Beats me....I've always like the CDM line myself - doodlebug 22:48:36 11/30/04 ( 3)
- Re: doodlebug,thanks for input. - bluesky 06:22:50 12/1/04 ( 0)
Does not it strike you as odd that - theaudiohobby 01:09:47 12/1/04 ( 1)
- Re: theaudiohobby,thanks for input. - bluesky 07:07:18 12/1/04 ( 0)