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In Reply to: Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... posted by theaudiohobby on December 3, 2004 at 02:11:24:
I don't think he was saying that it was the new (?) implementation of kevlar that makes the 700 worse. It sounds to me like he was saying that the 700 series was simply a repackaging (and price increase) of relatively poor speaker design rather than an actual upgrade which could have been accomplished with a better tweeter, different midrange materials, better choice of crossovers or via several other obvious fixes. Though, I do believe the 700 series has an even brighter, harsher sound that may make people pine for the CDM sound and that may explain the higher resale of CDMs if that is indeed the case.Kind of like the new 800 series. While the Nautilus tweeter was subpar (there are $20 tweeters that are notably better), even the world's best tweeter won't rescue the FST kevlar midrange. Not with a 4KHz, 2nd order crossover (I think). If B&W were serious about Kevlar as anything beyond a marketing driven feature, they'd lower the crossover to 2.5kHz, 4th order design. Then they'd actually damp the bass drivers on the lower end models, rather than letting them flap in the wind and make the 801 a 4-way design with an 8" midbass. But, as long as they keep selling to the public, why mess with an obviously successful recipe. They seem to be giving consumers more of the same problems rather than trying to remove the problems with their designs.
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Topic - Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - bluesky 20:03:00 11/30/04 ( 34)
- B&W excellent marketing-you pay for that ! - Blue Bull 20:34:34 12/3/04 ( 0)
The B & W 705 is a very fine speaker! - Pat D 14:33:15 12/3/04 ( 0)
well the CDM 1NT sounded better and cost less... - RGA 19:17:22 12/2/04 ( 17)
- From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - RGA 19:36:33 12/2/04 ( 16)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 02:11:24 12/3/04 ( 15)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 12/3/04 11:03:14 12/3/04 ( 14)
- You understood my comments perfectly - layman 15:52:42 12/5/04 ( 1)
- Re: You understood my comments perfectly - John Ashman 14:30:16 12/6/04 ( 1)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 15:35:34 12/3/04 ( 11)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - morricab 09:20:35 12/4/04 ( 0)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 18:54:06 12/3/04 ( 7)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 14:50:02 12/4/04 ( 6)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 16:00:56 12/4/04 ( 5)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 15:15:48 12/5/04 ( 4)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 20:27:27 12/5/04 ( 3)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 05:30:48 12/6/04 ( 2)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 11:13:09 12/6/04 ( 0)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - John Ashman 09:28:17 12/6/04 ( 0)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - RGA 18:47:36 12/3/04 ( 1)
- Re: From another posterabout the B&W 700 series design flaws... - theaudiohobby 14:05:36 12/4/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Oskar25 10:19:07 12/1/04 ( 1)
- Re: Oskar,thanks for input. - bluesky 21:39:55 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Bombaywalla 08:40:42 12/1/04 ( 1)
- Re: Bombaywalla,thanks for input. - bluesky 21:38:32 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Bandit 06:25:22 12/1/04 ( 2)
- off topic - theaudiohobby 07:24:28 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Bandit,thanks for input. - bluesky 06:37:27 12/1/04 ( 0)
Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - Toddd 06:04:16 12/1/04 ( 2)
- Re: Why are the B&W 700 series less used than the CDM NT series? - RGA 19:19:50 12/2/04 ( 0)
Re: I guess that the B&W 703's would be not matched well with the amps. - bluesky 06:19:39 12/1/04 ( 0)
Beats me....I've always like the CDM line myself - doodlebug 22:48:36 11/30/04 ( 3)
- Re: doodlebug,thanks for input. - bluesky 06:22:50 12/1/04 ( 0)
Does not it strike you as odd that - theaudiohobby 01:09:47 12/1/04 ( 1)
- Re: theaudiohobby,thanks for input. - bluesky 07:07:18 12/1/04 ( 0)