Propeller Head Plaza: RE: "This is how science works and they will welcome and publish contradictory scientific data" by andy19191 Technical and scientific discussion of amps, cables and other topics.

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Posted by andy19191 on September 15, 2007 at 13:51:58

In Reply to: RE: "This is how science works and they will welcome and publish contradictory scientific data" posted by geoffkait on September 15, 2007 at 10:47:06:

> Don't hold your breath for AES or any other "recognized organization" to
> perform any type of tests, blind or otherwise, on the items you refer to.

They are publishers, they do not perform tests themselves but report the tests of others. So get testing and submit your results (scientific flavour required).

> Organizations like AES (believe they) have much to lose by even
> pretending to take such products seriously.

Indeed they do have a great deal to lose: their scientific credibility. If they lose that they will lose almost all their members and hence far too much income to remain in business. It is not unlike an audiophile publication losing the support of the audiophile industry by publishing too much scientific data about sound, sound perception and electronics.

> Was the Journal of Acoustical Society article peer reviewed?

If you mean the one by Wright, probably not in the sense you mean because it is a light hearted review article not an article presenting new science.

> Who among the "peers" would have stood up and objected?

I skimmed your section in the context of a light hearted article reviewing acoustical nonsense over the centuries. Nobody with a grasp of how sound propagates would object to jars of pebbles in the corner of a room being held up as an example of something that fails to audibly modify the sound field but may influence sound perception in some people. I would not have objected.

> LOL This is precisely what we've come to expect from the so-called pillars of modern audio
> thought: "There's nothing new under the sun, and when there is you'll hear it from us
> first." HA! HA!

If you look at the other articles in JASA you will see many people reporting new things to do wiht sound while conforming to the scientific method. Apart from the review articles of course.

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