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In Reply to: Re: Compromises posted by Jerry Parker on August 5, 2002 at 14:29:57:
I doubt that you couldn't physically tell a different between a typical solid state amp, and a tube amp. For one thing, a tube amp likely sounds warmer. But such a difference probably doesn't matter to you, and hence it's effectively indistinguishable. Many people, including musicians or music lovers, are like that. But that doesn't mean they do not physically hear a difference.Listening itself is complicated too; I don't know if I could hear distortions (unless it's obscenely obvious). Most of the time, I can only notice their abscence. And I have seen this happen with my friends too. In one case, a guy said his system doesn't have any distortion, until he listened to mine. So now, when I feel the music is too loud or irritating, then I know it's distortions (which are a dynamic function of power line conditions and how long i've been listening) that are kicking in. That's why I think it's very difficult to capture distortions/fidelity with a simple set of numbers.
As to compromising and unwanted noise, my amp has the loudest 60hz hum that any I've known, but it is much better than many others, solid state or tube. This is due to its design (direct heated, directly coupled single-ended triode with a very simple power supply circuit). The designer could reduce the hum and other means such as a different design. But I doubt they would have resulted in what i'm hearing.
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Topic - A question for Mr. John Curl - Jerry Parker 08:13:41 08/4/02 ( 51)
- Re: A question for Mr. John Curl - rtbarr 21:38:00 08/5/02 ( 1)
- That was a nice read, thanks [nt] - Ted Smith 22:16:52 08/5/02 ( 0)
One Aspect (long) - Jon Risch 20:34:13 08/5/02 ( 0)
Think about it this way..... - Adi 10:52:04 08/5/02 ( 0)
Re: A question for Mr. John Curl - Jitter_by_Coffee 05:08:31 08/5/02 ( 0)
If a stranger calls you "Mr." on the net... - suits_me 23:08:42 08/4/02 ( 0)
Re: OK, guys... - Jerry Parker 21:59:29 08/4/02 ( 18)
- NO scientific basis - Adi 11:20:45 08/5/02 ( 0)
Are you serious?? - BrassMonkey 09:20:02 08/5/02 ( 1)
- Re: Are you serious?? - Analog Scott 17:45:08 08/5/02 ( 0)
Here's my advice. - orpheus 08:11:26 08/5/02 ( 2)
- Re: Here's my advice. - Jerry Parker 13:52:03 08/5/02 ( 1)
- Re: Here's my advice. - orpheus 09:29:54 08/6/02 ( 0)
Re: OK, guys... - john curl 22:44:58 08/4/02 ( 11)
- Re: I have listened to high end systems! - Jerry Parker 10:08:58 08/5/02 ( 10)
- Re: I have listened to high end systems! - john curl 10:38:21 08/5/02 ( 9)
- Re: I have listened to high end systems! - Adi 11:27:37 08/5/02 ( 8)
- Re: No, that is incorrect - Jerry Parker 13:31:01 08/5/02 ( 7)
- Re: No, that is incorrect - cdb 19:36:55 08/8/02 ( 1)
- Re: No, that is incorrect - Jerry Parker 20:33:54 08/8/02 ( 0)
- Re: No, that is incorrect - Analog Scott 17:55:05 08/5/02 ( 0)
- Re: No, that is incorrect - john curl 16:06:07 08/5/02 ( 2)
- Shame on you John - Adi 21:53:56 08/5/02 ( 1)
- Re: Grow Up - Jerry Parker 20:29:09 08/8/02 ( 0)
- Lucky you - Bruce from DC 14:38:20 08/5/02 ( 0)
So Jerry, now do you understand? - rupertdacat 19:51:05 08/4/02 ( 1)
- Re: So Jerry, now do you understand? - Dave-A 21:16:14 08/4/02 ( 0)
Re: A question for Mr. John Curl - Analog Scott 12:02:57 08/4/02 ( 0)
Re: A question for Mr. John Curl - rtbarr 11:02:16 08/4/02 ( 3)
- Thanks [nt] - Ted Smith 13:02:21 08/4/02 ( 0)
Great Link! - wheezer 12:32:42 08/4/02 ( 0)
Re: A question for Mr. John Curl - john curl 11:41:56 08/4/02 ( 0)
Re: A question for Mr. John Curl - john curl 11:00:11 08/4/02 ( 18)
- Well, I would assume... - Jerry Parker 23:29:26 08/4/02 ( 17)
- Re: Well, I would assume... - Analog Scott 17:57:42 08/5/02 ( 1)
- Re: Well, I would assume... - Jerry Parker 18:12:21 08/5/02 ( 0)
- Re: Well, I would assume... - john curl 09:19:20 08/5/02 ( 3)
- Re: Well, I would assume... - Jerry Parker 10:16:13 08/5/02 ( 2)
- Re: Well, I would assume... - Analog Scott 18:06:32 08/5/02 ( 0)
- Re: Well, I would assume... - john curl 10:43:39 08/5/02 ( 0)
Test methods... - Estes 05:35:43 08/5/02 ( 2)
- Re: Well then... - Jerry Parker 07:40:15 08/5/02 ( 1)
- Re: Well then... - jeff mai 18:20:59 08/5/02 ( 0)
There are more conditions on this challenge... - jeff mai 02:58:00 08/5/02 ( 7)
- Re: Well.... - Jerry Parker 07:48:46 08/5/02 ( 6)
- Re: Well.... - jeff mai 16:31:34 08/5/02 ( 0)
- Re: Well.... - caa 13:27:01 08/5/02 ( 4)
- Re: Compromises - Jerry Parker 14:29:57 08/5/02 ( 3)
- Re: Compromises - Analog Scott 18:13:20 08/5/02 ( 0)
- Re: Compromises - caa 08/5/02 16:26:03 08/5/02 ( 0)
- Re: Compromises - john curl 16:20:04 08/5/02 ( 0)