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In Reply to: "Yet Another Home Depot" recommendation by TAS(long) posted by PeAK on April 17, 2004 at 08:25:21:
In about a week or so I will be getting the rest of the supplies I will need to build a 10' pair of the THHN 6 gauge cable from HD. I will directly compare the HD cables (see below for how I will be constructing them) with my current reference, a 10' bi-wire set of the CC89259 terminated with Furutech solderless spades (VH Audio sells them). I just recently updraded my front three HT/music system speakers. With the Furutech spades I must say the CC89259 cables are incredible in my system. Due to the low parts cost ($65 including shipping and sales tax) for a 10' HD 6 ga. pair, the ease of construction and minimal time to build a DIY set of these cables I could not resist trying them.Contruction and parts details:
* Twisted pair (pink for positive lead and black for negative lead)
* Using Vampire RG6 spades (6 gauge spades that is gold plate over pure copper).
* Spades soldered using Cardas Quad Eutectic solder.
* The twisted pair will be heat shrunk the entire twist length with polyolefin heatshrink.
* Teflon wrapped then polyolefin heatshrink used to seal the connectors from air.
* I will dress the cables up with black techflex. Actually the finished cables will look like a thicker version of the CC89259. At least they will look cool and if I do not like them I will give them away as a gift!
I will run the new HD cables on a FryCleaner for a week continously before inserting into the system, then I will let them play 24/7 a few days before experimenting with them. I will compare them in a non-biwired setup, bi-wired setup, matched with the CC89259 with one on HF and the other on LF and then swapped. I am very curious if the two cables used together will have timing differences vs non-mixing them. I will test with varying types of music and HT.
As an FYI for those of you that are not famailiar with the HD 6 and 8 gauge THHN wire, they are sold as a single conductor wire. They are available in four colors, an off white, pink, black and green. My local HD (Bay Area, N. Ca) charges .25/ft. for 8 gauge and .43/ft for the 6 gauge. The wire is very stiff but can be molded into a shape. 19 thick gauge solid core copper conductors tightly wound and bound with probably PVC jacket then a nylon jacket.
The above wire will be tested in my main setup consisting of all Madrigal Audio Labs SS gear (mainly Proceed). I will list the cables and associated other accessories and gear used when I post my experimental findings noted above.
cdc
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Topic - "Yet Another Home Depot" recommendation by TAS(long) - PeAK 08:25:21 04/17/04 ( 45)
- If looking for building wire with a PE insulation... - wgb113 07:27:00 04/28/04 ( 0)
Re: "Yet Another Home Depot" recommendation by TAS(long) - Artar1 14:41:55 04/21/04 ( 0)
Had a speaker cable comparo this morning ... - Dave Pogue 16:31:15 04/19/04 ( 11)
- Re: Okay, so I just went to Home Depot - LikeWhatG? 12:17:33 04/20/04 ( 7)
- Keep it simple - Dave Pogue 15:03:36 04/20/04 ( 3)
- Re: Maybe I'll Techflex 'em! (nt) - LikeWhatG? 18:19:11 04/20/04 ( 0)
- Re: Keep it simple - LikeWhatG? 16:59:56 04/20/04 ( 1)
- That should work just fine (nt) - Dave Pogue 19:34:00 04/20/04 ( 0)
Re: Okay, so I just went to Home Depot - Green Lantern 14:43:09 04/20/04 ( 2)
- Re: OH!!! - LikeWhatG? 14:53:25 04/20/04 ( 1)
- no, actually - Green Lantern 16:44:20 04/20/04 ( 0)
Just amazing...doesn't get more fun than this! (nt) - SCEvans 06:42:21 04/20/04 ( 0)
Re: Had a speaker cable comparo this morning ... - kavakidd 17:16:03 04/19/04 ( 1)
- Re: Had a speaker cable comparo this morning ... - audiophile36@aol.com 19:37:56 04/19/04 ( 0)
Re: "Yet Another Home Depot" recommendation by TAS(long) - Green Lantern 18:24:35 04/18/04 ( 0)
Good - Chris R 04:58:28 04/18/04 ( 0)
Soon you guys will be in luck... - cdc 04/17/04 22:53:52 04/17/04 ( 3)
- Re: Soon you guys will be in luck... - Artar1 14:45:18 04/21/04 ( 0)
...suggestion for more valid comparison - PeAK 06:02:26 04/18/04 ( 1)
- Re: ...suggestion for more valid comparison - cdc 09:06:50 04/18/04 ( 0)
Recommendation may be too strong of a word (long) - Jon Risch 10:14:03 04/17/04 ( 24)
- Re: Recommendation may be too strong of a word (long) - kavakidd 13:13:33 04/17/04 ( 13)
- Re-posting previous question for Jon - kavakidd 17:15:15 04/18/04 ( 1)
- OK, OK ! - Jon Risch 19:46:50 04/18/04 ( 0)
- You're absolutely right. This is a stunning cable - Dave Pogue 19:59:13 04/17/04 ( 10)
- Re: stunning ....and an errant sacrificial TAS lamb - PeAK 10:43:28 04/18/04 ( 2)
- Confusing links - Metralla 12:00:58 04/18/04 ( 1)
- Re: stunning ....and an errant sacrificial TAS lamb - kavakidd 11:49:13 04/18/04 ( 0)
Needs be said: It takes guts to come out in favor of Home Depot ext. cord cabling. Thank you! - SCEvans 08:03:00 04/18/04 ( 6)
- PS - Cables do matter - SCEvans 08:11:29 04/18/04 ( 5)
- Oh, they matter all right - Dave Pogue 11:41:11 04/18/04 ( 4)
- Question - Jon Risch 13:47:26 04/18/04 ( 2)
- Re: Question - Bob_C 18:42:55 04/19/04 ( 0)
- That's a tough one, Jon - Dave Pogue 16:18:21 04/18/04 ( 0)
- Point of clarification - Dave Pogue 11:46:51 04/18/04 ( 0)
Re: Recommendation may be too strong of a word (long) - audiophile36@aol.com 12:02:16 04/17/04 ( 6)
- Re: Recommendation may be too strong of a word (long) - Jon Risch 13:41:45 04/18/04 ( 1)
- Re: Recommendation may be too strong of a word (long) - audiophile36@aol.com 14:37:14 04/18/04 ( 0)
Re: your PVC vs Teflon queries - PeAK 12:52:10 04/17/04 ( 3)
- Re: your PVC vs Teflon queries - audiophile36@aol.com 13:42:23 04/17/04 ( 2)
- Re: your PVC vs Teflon queries - Jon Risch 13:52:00 04/18/04 ( 1)
- Re: your PVC vs Teflon queries - audiophile36@aol.com 11:46:09 04/21/04 ( 0)
...thanks....further thoughts(long) on "beguiling nature" - PeAK 11:51:19 04/17/04 ( 2)
- Re: ...thanks....further thoughts(long) on "beguiling nature" - Jon Risch 12:02:08 04/18/04 ( 1)
- Re: ...Update on THHN evaluation - PeAK 13:33:14 04/18/04 ( 0)