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In Reply to: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 posted by Kim on June 26, 2001 at 16:28:37:
Hi there,I don't normally comment much here, but in my personal Evaluation I found Belden 89259 barely better than the cheap "goldpatch" cable from Radioshack. I found 89259 to be much closer in general sound and behaviour to that kind of cable then to the other DIY and Commercial Cables with true High End performance I tested.
I put this down squarely at the stranded construction, virtually all other cables in my test where of various "solid core" constructions, true litz or foil. I personally found RG214/Mil (stranded construction, but siverplated, Polyethylen Dielectric) to sound substantially better than Belden 89259, finding it to lack the ragged and distorted sound of stranded copper.
So the result in this test do not surprise me at all.
This is not meant as critism of Jon Risch's work, but rather as an illustration of just how different cables react to both system context and the listeners themselves. The "stranded copper" distotion I'm going on about for examples disappears beneath that caused by CD's oversampling Filters and typhical "Lin" Topology Solid State Amplifers (regarless of Calss A operation or not). If Jon Rischs evaluation used conventional CD Sources and conventional Solid State Amplifiers then I'm not surprised at his findings either.
Later T
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Topic - 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Kim 16:28:37 06/26/01 ( 37)
- not the twisted pair Belden 89259 - dljacob 21:37:28 06/28/01 ( 0)
Re: 23 ICs - Maybe they are better - Steve W 19:12:11 06/27/01 ( 0)
Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Thorsten 06/27/01 06:24:09 06/27/01 ( 7)
- Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Sean H 10:49:27 06/27/01 ( 6)
- Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Corndog71 18:12:47 06/27/01 ( 2)
- Hey Corndog71... - Sean H 19:36:28 06/27/01 ( 1)
- sorry for the confusion, yeah. (nt) - Corndog71 00:20:35 06/28/01 ( 0)
- Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Thorsten 12:17:15 06/27/01 ( 2)
- So give us a link to the recipe's that you prefer. - BobM 16:02:00 06/27/01 ( 1)
- Re: So give us a link to the recipe's that you prefer. - bilbobaggins 12:05:38 06/28/01 ( 0)
Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - ChrisVH 19:52:01 06/26/01 ( 16)
- Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Jon Risch 22:22:21 06/26/01 ( 14)
- Jon, I find the 89259 to sound "rough", "distorted" and "aggressive" against a straight bypass.... - Thorsten 13:52:29 06/27/01 ( 7)
- Re: Jon, I find the 89259 to sound "rough", "distorted" and "aggressive" against a straight bypass.. - penguin 22:58:41 07/12/01 ( 0)
- Re: Jon, I find the 89259 to sound "rough", "distorted" and "aggressive" against a straight bypass.. - Jon Risch 21:03:35 06/27/01 ( 3)
- Jon, I agree that 89259 is a good starting point for DIY..... - Thorsten 08:09:38 06/28/01 ( 1)
- It is good to see a mature disagreement. - Kevin P 09:30:45 06/28/01 ( 0)
- Re: Jon, I find the 89259 to sound "rough", "distorted" and "aggressive" against a straight bypass.. - wilks 21:47:19 06/27/01 ( 0)
Re: Jon, I find the 89259 to sound "rough", "distorted" and "aggressive" against a straight bypass.. - Sean H 14:00:38 06/27/01 ( 1)
- Re: Jon, I find the 89259 to sound "rough", "distorted" and "aggressive" against a straight bypass.. - Thorsten 08:14:10 06/28/01 ( 0)
This is the voice of reason - Sean H 02:19:56 06/27/01 ( 0)
How are the Canare RCAs? Jon, or others? - Wilks 02:01:29 06/27/01 ( 3)
- Re: How are the Canare RCAs? Jon, or others? - Jon Risch 23:50:32 06/27/01 ( 0)
Re: How are the Canare RCAs? Jon, or others? - Steve W 14:14:38 06/27/01 ( 1)
- Re: How are the Canare RCAs? Jon, or others? - wilks 22:06:35 06/27/01 ( 0)
How would you rate Kimber's RCA plugs - hee 22:46:25 06/26/01 ( 0)
Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - JohnR 22:10:53 06/26/01 ( 0)
Yeah - Somebody was not paid off !!! - Cut-Throat 19:47:34 06/26/01 ( 3)
- Re: Yeah - Somebody was not paid off !!! - Sean H 21:20:10 06/26/01 ( 2)
- Lots of folks believe there *is* nothing better than zip cord. (nt) - TLM 06:38:50 06/27/01 ( 1)
- True! And I see you are certainly NOT one of them. :) <nt> - Sean H 10:43:56 06/27/01 ( 0)
Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - Sean H 18:43:33 06/26/01 ( 0)
Re: 23 ICs Comparative Evaluations including DIY Belden 89259 - audioengr 17:48:55 06/26/01 ( 4)
- I thought I was the only one! - badman 18:00:44 06/27/01 ( 1)
- Re: I thought I was the only one! - Corndog71 20:25:44 06/28/01 ( 0)
Moreover... - Corbett 18:26:40 06/26/01 ( 1)
- Re: Moreover... - Rick B 21:06:01 06/26/01 ( 0)