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In Reply to: Irrelevant except in term of legal remedies for me. posted by gdg on April 6, 2008 at 14:20:47:
I'm the export manager for an American company in another industry. Just ask my Canadian distributor if UPS ground is the same cost to them as it would be to a nearby American city! Customs charges, duties, GST plus increased actual shipping charges all play a significant roll.
Getting product across the border, any border, is NOT the same as shipping within the US. We are asked by consumers in Canada to send repairs back to them by regular mail all the time. Why? Because if it's small enough they think we won't have to declare what is being sent and they won't have to pay clearance charges. But that's not the case. A legitimate company has to fill out all of the paperwork properly. If they are willing to lie about the true value, or to declare it as a gift, I wouldn't want to work with that company.
You can't ship a large component and insure it for $3,000 and then say it has no value for customs. When it's a repair, maybe you declare it for less, but it gets very complicated, which was my point from the beginning. It adds a dimension to the story that you left out of the initial post.
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Topic - Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - gdg 20:47:49 04/4/08 ( 89)
- RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - gjm80301@yahoo.com 21:32:26 04/9/08 ( 0)
I think a bit of thanks needs to go to Aberdeen!! - Shane from AUS 00:59:31 04/9/08 ( 1)
- I think the AA deserves the most credit! :) nt - bjh 07:09:18 04/9/08 ( 0)
Who needs Tact when you have Lyngdorf? - ppopp 10:55:36 04/8/08 ( 1)
- RE: Who needs Tact when you have Lyngdorf? - jtkarma 12:06:28 04/8/08 ( 0)
RE: I love this thread, it's a freaking Audio Telenovela - jtkarma 09:36:57 04/8/08 ( 3)
- The irony.... - gdg 19:44:36 04/8/08 ( 0)
RE: I love this thread, it's a freaking Audio Telenovela - WW85 10:30:03 04/8/08 ( 1)
- Oops! - gdg 20:13:52 04/8/08 ( 0)
UPDATE! Good news! - Aberdeen Components 23:49:10 04/6/08 ( 3)
- RE: UPDATE! Good news! - gdg 00:19:20 04/7/08 ( 2)
- Would not be enough for me.... - Don.Walker 08:07:01 04/8/08 ( 1)
- RE: Would not be enough for me.... - gdg 19:21:20 04/8/08 ( 0)
Att GERRY please contact me!! - Aberdeen Components 16:27:54 04/6/08 ( 0)
U.S. - Canada angle - WW85 13:32:55 04/6/08 ( 19)
- Irrelevant except in term of legal remedies for me. - gdg 14:20:47 04/6/08 ( 18)
- Not true - WW85 04/6/08 14:55:09 04/6/08 ( 17)
- Why are there in fact any customs charges, duties, call them what you may, ... - Neil49 15:40:51 04/6/08 ( 8)
- They may well be, and should be, exempt. - WW85 16:06:35 04/6/08 ( 7)
- Again, the issue here isn't one of EXPORTING, ... - Neil49 16:14:44 04/6/08 ( 6)
- Agree- partially - WW85 16:32:45 04/6/08 ( 0)
- RE: Again, the issue here isn't one of EXPORTING, ... - Aberdeen Components 16:23:17 04/6/08 ( 4)
- Re: "I think it more linked to the Dealer he bought it from..." - Neil49 16:42:35 04/6/08 ( 3)
- RE: Re: "I think it more linked to the Dealer he bought it from..." - Aberdeen Components 16:54:03 04/6/08 ( 2)
- Good for you, and I hope you are successful... - Neil49 16:58:43 04/6/08 ( 1)
- RE: Good for you, and I hope you are successful... - Aberdeen Components 17:20:43 04/6/08 ( 0)
- You are misleading people. - gdg 15:03:11 04/6/08 ( 7)
- RE: You are misleading people. - gdg 16:26:57 04/6/08 ( 1)
- RE: You are misleading people. - Aberdeen Components 16:44:39 04/6/08 ( 0)
- RE: You are misleading people. - Aberdeen Components 16:05:10 04/6/08 ( 0)
Trivial? - WW85 15:55:52 04/6/08 ( 3)
- RE: Trivial? - gdg 16:29:25 04/6/08 ( 0)
RE: Trivial? - Aberdeen Components 16:03:17 04/6/08 ( 1)
- RE: Trivial? - WW85 16:16:06 04/6/08 ( 0)
Moderator -- please move this thread to General. - bjh 09:58:53 04/6/08 ( 1)
- This company and topic are directly relavent to people involved in digital hi fi. - gdg 14:49:23 04/6/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Whodiini 20:02:13 04/5/08 ( 10)
- When the facts won't suffice, discredit the person. - gdg 21:22:13 04/5/08 ( 9)
- RE: When the facts won't suffice, discredit the person. - Whodiini 00:46:42 04/6/08 ( 8)
- RE: When the facts won't suffice, discredit the person. - gdg 02:43:49 04/6/08 ( 7)
- RE: Excellent product support in the industry. - gdg 03:02:33 04/6/08 ( 6)
- RE: Excellent product support in the industry. - Aberdeen Components 12:14:06 04/6/08 ( 3)
- No, he probably wouldn't have, ... - Neil49 12:57:44 04/6/08 ( 2)
- RE: No, he probably wouldn't have, ... - Aberdeen Components 16:00:52 04/6/08 ( 0)
- RE: No, he probably wouldn't have, ... - gdg 15:21:12 04/6/08 ( 0)
- Do you hold your dealer at least partially responsible? - Ozzie 04:17:33 04/6/08 ( 1)
- There is branch of this thread below that talks about the dealer.. - gdg 04:28:07 04/6/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - JGT 18:47:02 04/5/08 ( 0)
what's the dealer's role? - troporobo 18:40:08 04/5/08 ( 2)
- RE: what's the dealer's role? - gdg 19:25:17 04/5/08 ( 1)
- sounds to me like he deserves as much vitriol as the manufacturer - troporobo 05:53:43 04/6/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Tact Audio 15:39:54 04/5/08 ( 25)
- Tact Nightmare, Tact Nightmare, ...I've seen it here in this thread so often, it's beginning to make sense... - Neil49 16:24:31 04/6/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Money W 16:20:17 04/6/08 ( 0)
That's nicer than I would have been - mbnx01 15:27:18 04/6/08 ( 4)
- RE: That's nicer than I would have been - Aberdeen Components 15:57:33 04/6/08 ( 3)
- Let's put the shoe on the other foot. How would you, as a dealer, respond to the following scenerio? - gdg 17:23:55 04/6/08 ( 2)
- At this point, gdg, why don't you just get in touch with Anthony... - Neil49 17:38:53 04/6/08 ( 0)
- How I as a Dealer, How would I handle it? - Aberdeen Components 17:28:39 04/6/08 ( 0)
Tact---you are only making matters worse for yourself. - silence 11:39:31 04/6/08 ( 0)
"in order not to humiliate its employees the company has to draw a line and distance itself from --- person" - bjh 08:59:04 04/6/08 ( 0)
Sorry, Tact. Your reply is unconvincing. You have lost another potential customer. [nt] - David Spear 00:13:34 04/6/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - dnnaudio 18:58:04 04/5/08 ( 9)
- RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - gdg 21:10:18 04/5/08 ( 2)
- RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - dnnaudio 23:25:54 04/5/08 ( 1)
- RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - gdg 23:47:53 04/5/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Aberdeen Components 19:11:33 04/5/08 ( 5)
- Ok, Aberdeen is off my list also - Jerrym303 21:53:02 04/9/08 ( 1)
- RE: Ok, Aberdeen is off my list also - colnago 06:26:46 04/11/08 ( 0)
A note on Aberdeen Components. - gdg 19:58:52 04/5/08 ( 2)
- RE: A note on Aberdeen Components. - colnago 06:33:05 04/11/08 ( 1)
- Wise words from a CON ARTIST - Aberdeen Components 06:22:16 04/13/08 ( 0)
TOTALLY unconvincing. - Dave Pogue 17:00:15 04/5/08 ( 0)
Honor your warrantee (customer)... - mpathus 16:59:12 04/5/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Zozo 16:27:39 04/5/08 ( 1)
- RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - cyclonic 23:33:24 04/5/08 ( 0)
What you can't register your moniker? - gme109 16:19:12 04/5/08 ( 0)
- RE: What you can't register your moniker? - consumer 22:50:21 06/18/09 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - audioengr 10:45:18 04/5/08 ( 1)
- RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - gdg 14:04:57 04/5/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Todd Krieger 09:52:42 04/5/08 ( 2)
- By The Way...... - Todd Krieger 10:01:01 04/5/08 ( 1)
- RE: By The Way...... - Aberdeen Components 16:06:51 04/5/08 ( 0)
Excellent, Concise, Chronological Post - Gerry E. 08:02:45 04/5/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - Arkio 07:10:14 04/5/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - sk 06:00:52 04/5/08 ( 2)
- PLUG-MAN ! where is your PHONEY ID Steve BEEN? - Aberdeen Components 12:21:18 04/8/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - J.Mac 16:41:28 04/7/08 ( 0)
RE: Tact nightmare. Buyer beware. - zanash 04:05:39 04/5/08 ( 1)
- Tact knows that International customers are in a difficult legal position. - gdg 04:31:16 04/6/08 ( 0)