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Re: Luxman and/vs Thorens advice wanted...need turntable badly, tired of getting hosed on ebay

Well, that's interesting because I really wanted an Empire originally. However, I was under the impression that on basically every Empire model except the 698, the original arms were crap. In any case, I ended up buying a 698 on ebay that was shipped to me wonderfully and guess what? The motor runs fast...and yes, I have the correct belt. So after this experience, I've sort of lost enthusiasm for Empires. It seems the ultra-reliable are not so reliable after all.....


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